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Old 05-11-2008, 08:39 AM   #26 (permalink)
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Old 05-11-2008, 10:44 AM   #27 (permalink)
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Old 05-11-2008, 10:46 AM   #28 (permalink)
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First off, I specifically said Division 1 - you then said "top 5 in Michigan."

But since you were such a smarmy bastard about it... I did check.

In the Discus, there were 15 distances better than hers across the state finals last year... but almost all of those were in D2. She would have easily been Top 5 in any other division. Her throw would have been a record in some UP divisions (separate championship).

In the High Jump, there were only 3 jumps higher than hers across all divisions. She would have won Divisions 2 or 3. Her jump woud be a Division 3 state record and a record in some UP divisons.

In the Long Jump, there was one jump higher than hers across all divisions. She would have easily won divisions 2, 3, or 4. Her jump would be a state record in several divisions (LP UP).

In the 200, there were 3 times faster than hers across all divisions. She would have won divisions 3 and 4. Her time would be a state record in several divisions (LP and UP).

In the 100, there was 1 time faster than hers across all divisions. She would have won divisions 2, 3, and 4. Her time would be a state record in several divisions (LP and UP).

Only in the all-time, all-class, all-meets lists would her times and distances not be among the best. But since a fair number of those seem to be 20 and 30 years old, the comparison doesn't seem very fair. The high jump list has been broken once in this decade - the long jump list hasn't been touched this decade. The discus list has only two entries from this decade. The 200 has only two entries from this decade. The 100 has zero.
The UP having its own "state" track meet and the LP its own is got to be one of the strangest things in high school sports.
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Old 05-11-2008, 10:52 AM   #29 (permalink)
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Old 05-11-2008, 11:07 AM   #30 (permalink)
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The UP having its own "state" track meet and the LP its own is got to be one of the strangest things in high school sports.
California does it.

And this chick is flat out amazing.
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Old 05-11-2008, 12:06 PM   #31 (permalink)
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The UP having its own "state" track meet and the LP its own is got to be one of the strangest things in high school sports.
You have to have it. The kids are at such a disadvantage in the UP because its too cold for them to start the intense sprinting workouts, and the jumping events. So they get less quality practice time compared to downstate athletes
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Old 05-11-2008, 09:10 PM   #32 (permalink)
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First off, I specifically said Division 1 - you then said "top 5 in Michigan."

But since you were such a smarmy bastard about it... I did check.

In the Discus, there were 15 distances better than hers across the state finals last year... but almost all of those were in D2. She would have easily been Top 5 in any other division. Her throw would have been a record in some UP divisions (separate championship).

In the High Jump, there were only 3 jumps higher than hers across all divisions. She would have won Divisions 2 or 3. Her jump woud be a Division 3 state record and a record in some UP divisons.

In the Long Jump, there was one jump higher than hers across all divisions. She would have easily won divisions 2, 3, or 4. Her jump would be a state record in several divisions (LP UP).

In the 200, there were 3 times faster than hers across all divisions. She would have won divisions 3 and 4. Her time would be a state record in several divisions (LP and UP).

In the 100, there was 1 time faster than hers across all divisions. She would have won divisions 2, 3, and 4. Her time would be a state record in several divisions (LP and UP).

Only in the all-time, all-class, all-meets lists would her times and distances not be among the best. But since a fair number of those seem to be 20 and 30 years old, the comparison doesn't seem very fair. The high jump list has been broken once in this decade - the long jump list hasn't been touched this decade. The discus list has only two entries from this decade. The 200 has only two entries from this decade. The 100 has zero.

In other words , she would not have won any of the events if placed against Michigans' best, ok.......so I was right

Being an individual sport, for the most part, I will be curious what school nabs her.
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Old 05-11-2008, 09:16 PM   #33 (permalink)
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This almost happened in Mich. Class C in 98 (I think that was the year). Travis Kelly of New Haven won the 100, 200 and 400 and placed runner up in the long jump for a total of 38 pts. If his long jump had been an inch longer (again, going off of memory) his team would have tied for the state title.
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Old 05-11-2008, 09:19 PM   #34 (permalink)
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In the mid or early 90's New Haven won three state titles in a row in Michigan with 4 kids. Not as impressive as the one girl here, but pretty damn impressive.
All were great, but one of those 4 was John Mack. He was one of the better t&f athletes to come through in recent years. I watched him cruise a :52 400 in a dual meet when he was in 7th grade.
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Old 05-11-2008, 09:54 PM   #35 (permalink)
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All were great, but one of those 4 was John Mack. He was one of the better t&f athletes to come through in recent years. I watched him cruise a :52 400 in a dual meet when he was in 7th grade.
where did he end up running college? I thought it was OSU but am not sure.
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Old 05-11-2008, 10:08 PM   #36 (permalink)
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where did he end up running college? I thought it was OSU but am not sure.
Princeton (he was a heckuva a student, too). He later went on to work at the Big Ten office and now Northwestern:


EVANSTON, Ill.--Northwestern University Director of Athletics Mark Murphy today announced the addition of John Mack as associate athletics director for external affairs, effective Monday, Aug. 28. Mack, who comes to Northwestern after serving as associate director of championships at the Big Ten Conference for the past two-plus years, replaces Chris Boyer who accepted another position at the University of Maryland last month.
Mack will be responsible for the coordination and administration of the department's media services, ticket promotions, marketing and broadcast properties in addition to the direct supervision of media services, marketing and adjunct supervision of the ticket office. He also will serve as the administrator for fencing, baseball, cross country, field hockey and men's tennis.
"I would like to extend my thanks to Mark Murphy for giving me the opportunity to serve as associate athletics director at Northwestern," Mack said. "Northwestern offers the best of both worlds both academically and athletically. The student-athletes, coaches and staff represent the very best in college athletics and I'm extremely excited to become a part of the Wildcat family."
"We're excited to have John join our department," said Murphy. "With his ties to Princeton and the Big Ten, he has an ideal background for Northwestern. John is a talented administrator and we're anxious to have him join our athletic staff."
Mack is a 2000 graduate of Princeton University where he earned his bachelor's degree in psychology. Upon receiving his degree, he remained at this alma mater for four years, first serving as an event operations assistant for the athletics department for 18 months. Mack then served as assistant women's track and field coach and assistant director of intercollegiate programming for two years before moving onto the Big Ten in March of 2004. At the Big Ten, Mack assisted with all aspects of the conference's 23 sport championships and coordinated the conference awards program for all Big Ten-sponsored sports. He served as the staff liaison to the Big Ten Sports Management Committee and the conference liaison to several coaches groups including men's and women's cross country/track and field, field hockey, women's tennis and women's swimming and diving.
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Old 05-11-2008, 11:46 PM   #37 (permalink)
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That's sad. The quality of HS T&F in MI is crap.
Rockford is a distance running powerhouse...ever hear of Dathan Ritzenhein?

Dathan Ritzenhein

"Dathan Ritzenheim of Rockford, Michigan defended his title,
leading Alan Webb and Ryan Hall. The boy's team title
was won by the Western team. Dathan ran 14.35, with
20 seconds between him and Alan Webb, the largest
margin in FootLocker Xc history."

FYI - Alan Webb was the first HS in 20 or 30 years to run a sub 4 minute mile. Ran for U of M.

As a senior in high school he set the Michigan & National high school 5k record of 14:10 at state finals, second place was 15:05.

- watched him run that race...amazing. He just floated over the ground. He beat some kid from Novi that ended up running for MSU...can't remember his name (Tim Moore?) but in any other year he could've won the state title.

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Old 05-12-2008, 08:41 AM   #38 (permalink)
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Old 05-12-2008, 09:30 AM   #39 (permalink)
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Rockford is a distance running powerhouse...ever hear of Dathan Ritzenhein?

Dathan Ritzenhein

"Dathan Ritzenheim of Rockford, Michigan defended his title,
leading Alan Webb and Ryan Hall. The boy's team title
was won by the Western team. Dathan ran 14.35, with
20 seconds between him and Alan Webb, the largest
margin in FootLocker Xc history."

FYI - Alan Webb was the first HS in 20 or 30 years to run a sub 4 minute mile. Ran for U of M.

As a senior in high school he set the Michigan & National high school 5k record of 14:10 at state finals, second place was 15:05.

- watched him run that race...amazing. He just floated over the ground. He beat some kid from Novi that ended up running for MSU...can't remember his name (Tim Moore?) but in any other year he could've won the state title.
I don't know if you're talking about Chris Toloff (ran for MSU for a year) or Tim Moore (ran for Notre Dame). Moore won Footlocker Naionals the following year after Dathan. I "raced" Dathan a few time in HS and the closest I came to him was about 90 seconds in a 5k. The 2 mile Dathan ran at the state finals was rediculous (8:4?)-looked like he was just sprinting for 8 laps.
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Old 05-12-2008, 09:48 AM   #40 (permalink)
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Good for her! An amazing accomplishment!

Never associated a High Jumper/Long Jumper as someone who could throw the disc. I would think the body types would be opposite, kind of like player choices in the ol' Nintendo Ice Hockey: Skinny = Fast, Big = Powerful. Any hows - Great Job and hope she continues her success.
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Old 05-12-2008, 09:52 AM   #41 (permalink)
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Rockford is a distance running powerhouse...ever hear of Dathan Ritzenhein?

Dathan Ritzenhein

"Dathan Ritzenheim of Rockford, Michigan defended his title,
leading Alan Webb and Ryan Hall. The boy's team title
was won by the Western team. Dathan ran 14.35, with
20 seconds between him and Alan Webb, the largest
margin in FootLocker Xc history."

FYI - Alan Webb was the first HS in 20 or 30 years to run a sub 4 minute mile. Ran for U of M.

As a senior in high school he set the Michigan & National high school 5k record of 14:10 at state finals, second place was 15:05.

- watched him run that race...amazing. He just floated over the ground. He beat some kid from Novi that ended up running for MSU...can't remember his name (Tim Moore?) but in any other year he could've won the state title.
yeah - ever hear of Ritz?

or Jason Hartman
or Ryan Shay
or Paul McMullen
or Todd Williams
or Maverick Darling (the next great runner to come out of Michigan)
or Tim Pitcher
or....

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Old 05-12-2008, 09:53 AM   #42 (permalink)
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Being a TF person, those aren't great marks. The HJ mark is okay and the LJ is decent but 121' isn't that impressive in the disc.
As if we needed any more proof that no matter how great the story, some bitter, sorry jackass on tRCMB will step up to spew some hate and attempt to tear the person down.
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Old 05-12-2008, 09:56 AM   #43 (permalink)
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yeah - ever hear of Ritz?

or Jason Hartman
or Ryan Shay
or Paul McMullen
or Todd Williams
or Maverick Darling (the next great runner to come out of Michigan)
or Tim Pitcher
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R.I.P. Ryan Shay (his younger brother runs at MSU now)
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Old 05-12-2008, 09:56 AM   #44 (permalink)
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Rockford is a distance running powerhouse...ever hear of Dathan Ritzenhein?

Dathan Ritzenhein

"Dathan Ritzenheim of Rockford, Michigan defended his title,
leading Alan Webb and Ryan Hall. The boy's team title
was won by the Western team. Dathan ran 14.35, with
20 seconds between him and Alan Webb, the largest
margin in FootLocker Xc history."

FYI - Alan Webb was the first HS in 20 or 30 years to run a sub 4 minute mile. Ran for U of M.

As a senior in high school he set the Michigan & National high school 5k record of 14:10 at state finals, second place was 15:05.

- watched him run that race...amazing. He just floated over the ground. He beat some kid from Novi that ended up running for MSU...can't remember his name (Tim Moore?) but in any other year he could've won the state title.
You can watch Dathan and Rochester's Brian Sell (winner of this year's 25K RBR) at the Olympics this year; 2 of the 3 US Olympic Marathoners. May not be the year for US, Sell is probably past his prime and Ritzenhiem has not quite hit his prime yet.

As for this incredible female in Texas, TX is one of the few states this is possible due to number of schools it is difficult to qualify for the state meet so it lessens the point totals making it possible for 1 amazing athlete to score enough to win or actually compete.

At least in basketball when you have 1 amazing player he gets to take his teammates with him to the State Finals. You think the 12th boy off the bench on Magic's HS team earned his ring any more than a girl on the 400 realy team at this chick's HS.
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Old 05-12-2008, 09:59 AM   #45 (permalink)
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