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Old 05-11-2008, 08:02 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Yeah but we just need to put all this behind us and move on to Kwame's vision of Detroit's future.
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just so you have perspective, this is bush league compared to miami.

for fun, you could look up hialeah. which was 'ruled' by the same mayor for close to 30 years, until he stepped down and handed the city to his self-appointed successor. MIA international falls in his district. try driving one side to another. and every contractor in the airport is either a family or friend. and airport happens to be 3+ years and a few billion dollars behind schedule for the re-design... and the feds even got the lady that turned around Hatsfield to come here, and it only took them a year to run her out of her job.

There is no city with more widespread and continuos corruption than miami. just remember, the mob used to run cuba, and all of them came here when castro booted them...
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Old 05-11-2008, 08:42 PM   #28 (permalink)
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just so you have perspective, this is bush league compared to miami.

for fun, you could look up hialeah. which was 'ruled' by the same mayor for close to 30 years, until he stepped down and handed the city to his self-appointed successor. MIA international falls in his district. try driving one side to another. and every contractor in the airport is either a family or friend. and airport happens to be 3+ years and a few billion dollars behind schedule for the re-design... and the feds even got the lady that turned around Hatsfield to come here, and it only took them a year to run her out of her job.

There is no city with more widespread and continuos corruption than miami. just remember, the mob used to run cuba, and all of them came here when castro booted them...
But the difference is Miami area is vibrant and has a lot of appeal to a lot of people to want to live there.

Detroit is a **** hole and just when the city starts to gain some positive momentum...KK's hip hop life style makes the city look stupid yet again.
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Old 05-11-2008, 09:19 PM   #29 (permalink)
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don't disagree with that at all...
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Old 05-11-2008, 09:28 PM   #30 (permalink)
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But the difference is Miami area is vibrant and has a lot of appeal to a lot of people to want to live there.

Detroit is a **** hole and just when the city starts to gain some positive momentum...KK's hip hop life style makes the city look stupid yet again.
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Old 05-12-2008, 12:08 AM   #31 (permalink)
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In Kwame's T-mobile Sidekick, I wonder who's in his 5?

Its amazing, everyday hundreds of people comment on the articles in the detroit free press and it seems like 98% of the people all agree on the topic, and the people who comment against seem so out of touch with reality they're probably on Kwame's payroll. I don't even think Melissa Thereau rallies such a uniform response

this guy has to know hes going down and hes just living it up until he does or by some miracle find a weakness or technicality in the opposing lawyer's case and escape. That seems like the strategy with his lawyers trying to block everything. If that happens I can see detroit rioting again maybe it seems fitting that a riot would start the revival.

That said, I would love to see the ELPD try and help the detroit police department if that happens. The state should call on their expertise with crowd control and put them on the front lines. that would be sweet.

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Old 05-12-2008, 12:12 AM   #32 (permalink)
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But the difference is Miami area is vibrant and has a lot of appeal to a lot of people to want to live there.

Detroit is a **** hole and just when the city starts to gain some positive momentum...KK's hip hop life style makes the city look stupid yet again.
I try to defend Detroit on this board as much as anyone. My wife and I still try to get down there once a month to party, eat, see something, or take the kids somewhere. You're right, it seemed to be coming back, and maybe still is. It's much better than when I moved here 20 years ago, but damn, if Detroit keeps KK they get what they deserve. And if the people of Detroit vote a guy in or out of office based on his or her "blackness" they get what they deserve. I don't know how this sound or it's coming off, but I'm about as disgusted as the next guy, and I try to defend Detroit.
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Old 05-12-2008, 12:21 AM   #33 (permalink)
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I try to defend Detroit on this board as much as anyone. My wife and I still try to get down there once a month to party, eat, see something, or take the kids somewhere. You're right, it seemed to be coming back, and maybe still is. It's much better than when I moved here 20 years ago, but damn, if Detroit keeps KK they get what they deserve. And if the people of Detroit vote a guy in or out of office based on his or her "blackness" they get what they deserve. I don't know how this sound or it's coming off, but I'm about as disgusted as the next guy, and I try to defend Detroit.
The race-carding is complete bull$#$#, since if and when Kwame is removed, the odds are 99.9999% the next mayor, of course, will also be African-American.

The people to whom Kwame is causing real harm with his antics, of course, are also overwhelmingly African-American.

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This is illegal and unethical! Y'all need to Leave his wife and kids out of this!
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The race-carding is complete bull$#$#, since if and when Kwame is removed, the odds are 99.9999% the next mayor, of course, will also be African-American.

The people to whom Kwame is causing real harm with his antics, of course, are also overwhelmingly African-American.

but the card holders will ask if he is "Black" enough
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Old 05-12-2008, 03:19 PM   #38 (permalink)
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no way that's in Detroit. the sidewalk is too level.
There's also autos at the curb with all 4 tires, open stores and a bus running.
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Old 05-12-2008, 07:46 PM   #40 (permalink)
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I try to defend Detroit on this board as much as anyone. My wife and I still try to get down there once a month to party, eat, see something, or take the kids somewhere. You're right, it seemed to be coming back, and maybe still is. It's much better than when I moved here 20 years ago, but damn, if Detroit keeps KK they get what they deserve. And if the people of Detroit vote a guy in or out of office based on his or her "blackness" they get what they deserve. I don't know how this sound or it's coming off, but I'm about as disgusted as the next guy, and I try to defend Detroit.
I was with you in trying to defend Detroit for a long time. But this latest lunacy has just turned me off completely to that city. Not just KK and his actions and that haughty bitch Beatty, which are bad enough, but the fact that you have idiots like Monica Conyers and Barbara Rose-Collins who don't even think the mayor should be censured for his actions, and not to mention the general population who still supports him. I mean what does he have to do for some people to even consider that maybe he shouldn't be mayor...behead a nun on national TV?

The last straw for me is that somehow, against all odds, Detroit has turned this into a race thing yet again. Never mind that pretty much all the major players in this whole affair are black and the people who are being hurt most by it are black. A lot of people in Detroit have yet again swallowed the line that this is the white man trying to keep the black man down.

I can only turn the other cheek for so long and when it becomes apparent that, no matter how open and understanding about race relations I am supposed to be, others can be racist as hell towards me and my race and its acceptable in the eyes of many...then screw 'em. I'm not spending another dime of my $$$ down there while that kind of system is in place. Detroit and its residents can sink in the hate filled racist ****hole its created for itself.
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Old 05-12-2008, 08:48 PM   #41 (permalink)
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The race-carding is complete bull$#$#, since if and when Kwame is removed, the odds are 99.9999% the next mayor, of course, will also be African-American.

The people to whom Kwame is causing real harm with his antics, of course, are also overwhelmingly African-American.

After thinking about it a bit, I wondered if any white candidacy could possibly win a mayoral election in Detroit. Among serious candidates who would even consider doing it (and even this is a stretch) the only person I could come up with is Bill Laimbeer. Not that he'd ever leave basketball, but he might have a legitimate shot, especially if he announced that Rick Mahorn would be part of a package deal.

Others I thought about but ultimately ruled out for obvious reasons: Alan Trammell, Jim Leyland (if the win tWS....), Chuck Daly (maybe a few years ago), Matt Millen (can't keep him from GMing tLions, can anyone keep him out of political office???), Scotty Bowman, Steve Yzerman, Kid Rock, Lloyd Carr, and my personal favorite: Mike Abdenour.
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After thinking about it a bit, I wondered if any white candidacy could possibly win a mayoral election in Detroit.
No, never.

If you're talking about former athletes, Dave Bing could probably win it in a landslide, and in addition is probably very well qualified (unlike 99++ percent of former athletes).
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After thinking about it a bit, I wondered if any white candidacy could possibly win a mayoral election in Detroit. Among serious candidates who would even consider doing it (and even this is a stretch) the only person I could come up with is Bill Laimbeer. Not that he'd ever leave basketball, but he might have a legitimate shot, especially if he announced that Rick Mahorn would be part of a package deal.

Others I thought about but ultimately ruled out for obvious reasons: Alan Trammell, Jim Leyland (if the win tWS....), Chuck Daly (maybe a few years ago), Matt Millen (can't keep him from GMing tLions, can anyone keep him out of political office???), Scotty Bowman, Steve Yzerman, Kid Rock, Lloyd Carr, and my personal favorite: Mike Abdenour.
Never in a million years.

If a white candidate ran in the next election and had a fool proof way for every citizen of Detroit to get a 6 figure income and a new 5,000 sq foot house with a Cadillac in the garage.....he'd still lose big time.

That's how racist and small minded that city is.
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Never in a million years.

If a white candidate ran in the next election and had a fool proof way for every citizen of Detroit to get a 6 figure income and a new 5,000 sq foot house with a Cadillac in the garage.....he'd still lose big time.

That's how racist and small minded that city is.
I wonder if Roger Penske would ever consider the position?



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No, never.

If you're talking about former athletes, Dave Bing could probably win it in a landslide, and in addition is probably very well qualified (unlike 99++ percent of former athletes).
A businessman like Bing? Wouldn't be hard to paint him as the white candidate. Freman Hendrix was incredibly well liked, was well qualified and had a double digit lead on Kwame with 2 weeks left to go. Then the masses decided they wanted a Mayor who's keepin' it real....
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