Ribeiro, Osgood, and Ott Fined

[PRStoetzer]

Originally Posted by spartaspartan

was it Rafalski or Lindstrom?

I think it was our captain

People have said both on various forums. Both were on the ice.

I think Osgood's intention was, indeed, to protect Lidstrom.

[Jason Grilli's Sofa]

Originally Posted by PRStoetzer

Not just at the end of the game. You'd have to watch a lot of games closely, but goalies do this regularly during games to impede the progress of opposing players.

You could barely see it in real time during the broadcast and most often nobody really notices it during game play. It is interference (and/or high sticking if the stick does get up), but is rarely called (and wasn't last night). If we want to talk about dirty goaie play - Turco's slew foot of Filppula was more dangerous than the Osgood play.

Or his slashing/punching at Homer. It's not necessarily dangerous, but it's annoying.

[PRStoetzer]

Originally Posted by Jason Grilli's Sofa

Or his slashing/punching at Homer. It's not necessarily dangerous, but it's annoying.

Agree. His slashing and punching Holmstrom weren't as dangerous as the slew foot. Slew foots at the speed Filppula was skating are quite dangerous. You saw the flip he took. There could have easily been any number of injuries as a result of that dumb play.

[Harry Doyle]

It's a joke, but would you expect anything less from the spineless entity that is the NHL?

I mean, Pronger clobbered Holmstrom last season and all Pronger got was one game. ONE GAME! For Pronger, with a history of being an idiot, to only get one game for that is absurd. So nothing the NHL does anymore surprises me.

[dmac]

The referees are going to be on guard for any retaliation. They will call everything, and I mean everything, in the 1st period in an attempt to keep the game under control. This will be a huge advantage to the Wings. The Stars won't be able to take the same shots (see Turco) that they did in the last game. The Wings will kill them on the PP and PK.

[T.C.O.B.]

Originally Posted by PRStoetzer

Osgood was trying to protect Rafalski behind the net. Every goaltender does the same thing Osgood did.

Originally Posted by PRStoetzer

Not just at the end of the game. You'd have to watch a lot of games closely, but goalies do this regularly during games to impede the progress of opposing players.

You could barely see it in real time during the broadcast and most often nobody really notices it during game play. It is interference (and/or high sticking if the stick does get up), but is rarely called (and wasn't last night). If we want to talk about dirty goaie play - Turco's slew foot of Filppula was more dangerous than the Osgood play.

No matter how much you whine about this, it is not going to change. Obviously, the NHL saw what Osgood did and recognized without his stick butt, the incident would not have occurred. Face it, you were wrong about this last night. Happens to the best of us.

[PRStoetzer]

Originally Posted by T.C.O.B.

No matter how much you whine about this, it is not going to change. Obviously, the NHL saw what Osgood did and recognized without his stick butt, the incident would not have occurred. Face it, you were wrong about this last night. Happens to the best of us.

Swinging a stick with two hands at another player has always been recognized by the NHL as a no-no, usually resulting in a suspension. Just because Osgood made contact with Ribeiro does not give Ribeiro the right to swing his stick at Osgood.

Heck, if Ribeiro hadn't swung his stick, there's no way Osgood would have been fined for that play. The one thing that we can say is that NHL's supplemental discipline is wildly inconsistent.

[T.C.O.B.]

Originally Posted by PRStoetzer

Swinging a stick with two hands at another player has always been recognized by the NHL as a no-no, usually resulting in a suspension. Just because Osgood made contact with Ribeiro does not give Ribeiro the right to swing his stick at Osgood.

Heck, if Ribeiro hadn't swung his stick, there's no way Osgood would have been fined for that play. The one thing that we can say is that NHL's supplemental discipline is wildly inconsistent.

Stick butting someone up high has always been recognized as a no-no as well. Just because it was not assesses a match penalty does not mean nothing happened. It is high time that the NHL actually took into account what led to an incident happening. Again, I am not saying that what Ribeiro did should not have been dealt with. Just saying Ozzie was the instigator and should not get off scott free if Ribeiro got something. Should Ribeiro get a bigger fine than Ozzie? Sure. Hard to argue that. But if you are doling out suspensions, escpecially multi-game suspensions like many here are whining about, then Osgood would have to get some kind of suspension as well.

[PRStoetzer]

Originally Posted by T.C.O.B.

Stick butting someone up high has always been recognized as a no-no as well. Just because it was not assesses a match penalty does not mean nothing happened. It is high time that the NHL actually took into account what led to an incident happening. Again, I am not saying that what Ribeiro did should not have been dealt with. Just saying Ozzie was the instigator and should not get off scott free if Ribeiro got something. Should Ribeiro get a bigger fine than Ozzie? Sure. Hard to argue that. But if you are doling out suspensions, escpecially multi-game suspensions like many here are whining about, then Osgood would have to get some kind of suspension as well.

Then Turco should get a suspension for butt-ending Helm earlier in the game on a similar play. He should also be suspended for that nasty slew-foot.

[T.C.O.B.]

Originally Posted by PRStoetzer

Then Turco should get a suspension for butt-ending Helm earlier in the game on a similar play. He should also be suspended for that nasty slew-foot.

Did either of those result in an incident as a direct result of that? You can nitpick every single call/non call there is. What Ribeiro did was wrong. Period. But, stop acting like Ozzie did nothing that led to that..........I don't care how often goalies do that to 'protect' their defensemen blah blah blah and whatever other lame excuse you have thrown out. It was dirty by Ozzie, which was responded to with an even dirtier play by Ribeiro.

[PRStoetzer]

Originally Posted by T.C.O.B.

Did either of those result in an incident as a direct result of that? You can nitpick every single call/non call there is. What Ribeiro did was wrong. Period. But, stop acting like Ozzie did nothing that led to that..........I don't care how often goalies do that to 'protect' their defensemen blah blah blah and whatever other lame excuse you have thrown out. It was dirty by Ozzie, which was responded to with an even dirtier play by Ribeiro.

I guess in the future, Detroit players should retaliate when Turco cheap shots someone. Basically, that's the precedent the league is setting. Do whatever you want, as long as you're provoked first.

[AUAlum06]

Originally Posted by T.C.O.B.

Did either of those result in an incident as a direct result of that? You can nitpick every single call/non call there is. What Ribeiro did was wrong. Period. But, stop acting like Ozzie did nothing that led to that..........I don't care how often goalies do that to 'protect' their defensemen blah blah blah and whatever other lame excuse you have thrown out. It was dirty by Ozzie, which was responded to with an even dirtier play by Ribeiro.

I don't care what anyone does to you there is no excuse for swinging your stick baseball style at someone's head

[PRStoetzer]

Originally Posted by AUAlum06

I don't care what anyone does to you there is no excuse for swinging your stick baseball style at someone's head

[Z.Cavaricci]

So I have watched the replay about 10 times. If you watch Osgoods stick (which by the way EVERY goalie does when a player is rounding the net) it doesnt even move. His goal stick barely even moves when it makes contact. The &^#)&*Y should have been suspended. You dont swing your stick like that at anyone.

And people....it is LiDstrom. Not LiNdstrom.

[T.C.O.B.]

Originally Posted by AUAlum06

I don't care what anyone does to you there is no excuse for swinging your stick baseball style at someone's head

Have I once said that Ribeiro was in the right to do what he did? No, I have not. All I have stated is that Osgood instigated the whole thing and deserves some sort of punishment as well. Never said it had to be equal to Ribeiro. He instigated it....Ribeiro took it to another level etc.

[Optimistic Pessimist]

Originally Posted by AUAlum06

I don't care what anyone does to you there is no excuse for swinging your stick baseball style at someone's head

He hit him in the head?

[Mitch C.]

Originally Posted by spartaspartan

If you won't get suspended for a blatant cheap shot to a goalies neck region, than I would have one player after every game two-hand Turco until his shoulder separated.

That is a joke ruling

First, Ozzie started it by throwing out the butt end of his stick at Ribeiro.

Ribeiro returned the favor with a chop to Ozzie's chest protector. Ozzie wasn't hurt at all by that shot.

If anything what Ozzie did was more dangerous than what Riberio did.

No suspensions and a few fines are the perfect call.

[Mitch C.]

Originally Posted by Optimistic Pessimist

He hit him in the head?

No, chest protector. Ozzie fell like he was shot by an AK-47, but in reality never felt it.

[Bleedgreen_90]

Originally Posted by Mitch C.

First, Ozzie started it by throwing out the butt end of his stick at Ribeiro.

Ribeiro returned the favor with a chop to Ozzie's chest protector. Ozzie wasn't hurt at all by that shot.

If anything what Ozzie did was more dangerous than what Riberio did.

No suspensions and a few fines are the perfect call.

Ozzie didn't start anything at all. He did what every goaltender does at just about every level. In fact, they teach them to do it. Now he made contact and should have been penalized for it but in NO WAY does that justify what that punk Ribeiro did.

If the league had any balls (which they don't), they should have done nothing to Ozzie not because he didn't do anything but because what he did didn't warrant anything more then a penalty. It was an act in direct associate to the game and was done without the intent to injure (spare me the bs reply that we don't know what his intent was). What the punk Ribeiro did was not an action that can be associated with the normal play of the game and in fact was an act that was INTENDED to injure.

As for the statement that Ozzie had a chest protector.............what does that have to do with the actual action (that's what is punishable) of Ribeiro? So what you are saying is that if someone shoots at a cop that is wearing a bullet proof vest, they shouldn't be punished too much since it couldn't have done too much damage.

GO GREEN!

[Bleedgreen_90]

Originally Posted by Mitch C.

No, chest protector. Ozzie fell like he was shot by an AK-47, but in reality never felt it.

Tell ya what, put on a hockey chest protector and let me take a full two handed swing at you. Deal?

GO GREEN!

[Redwingenator]

The only reason I can think for there not being a suspension is because:
#1 The media is not calling for it.
#2 Keeping Ribeiro in the game adds more excitement and emotion to the game hopefully resulting in ratings.

[tritongreen]

I am rooting for a blowout one way or another tonight so someone can **** that guy up late in the game.