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scrambled eggs · 05-15-2008, 07:53 PM

seems like just yesterday i heard an audio clip linked from this board of "insider", paul k, from spartanmag adamantly repeating nichol to msu was "not gonna happen". if this thread is true, i guess paul's not as tuned-in to the spartan "war-room" as he'd like us all to believe.

Last Post · 05-15-2008, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Jason Grilli's Sofa

I'm talking about after he announced he was transferring. Mich. didn't show enough interest to make Nichol waste his time considering them.

His family is anti-UofM as well, from what i hears.

I think Oklahoma really did something to confuse Nichol, I'm glad it's working out.

Parrot Head · 05-15-2008, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by WCS

He won't be sitting out this year. He will be an active member of the team. He just won't be able to play in games.

He will be able to practice, attend team meetings, join the team for meals and all that stuff. He will also be able to fully participate in Spring Practice when it roles around.

Unlike Ish Johnson who had to sit out this year because he was a NQ. He wasn't able to be a part of the team. Huge difference.

what about stand on the sidelines? can he travel with the team?

Jason Grilli's Sofa · 05-15-2008, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by WCS

He won't be sitting out this year. He will be an active member of the team. He just won't be able to play in games.

He will be able to practice, attend team meetings, join the team for meals and all that stuff. He will also be able to fully participate in Spring Practice when it roles around.

Unlike Ish Johnson who had to sit out this year because he was a NQ. He wasn't able to be a part of the team. Huge difference.

This is true. Nichol will be able to join the team for the offseason stuff, summer and fall practice, and attend all of the games. Of course, he won't dress for the games but that's really the only thing he won't do.

Jason Grilli's Sofa · 05-15-2008, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Parrot Head

what about stand on the sidelines? can he travel with the team?

He could, but I don't see why he would travel since you don't travel with a full roster.

WCS · 05-15-2008, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Jason Grilli's Sofa

I'm talking about after he announced he was transferring. Mich. didn't show enough interest to make Nichol waste his time considering them.

umaa showed interest, but dickrod was too busy battling the courts over his indiscretions. KN would have been an instant starter at umaa. they wanted him bad but they lack the work ethic to get it done.

He would have had a year in the system and would have been ready to compete for the starting job this spring. He would have been well ahead of the true freshman coming in.

Anyone who uses the argument that a true frosh would be ahead of KN on the depth chart is pretty stupid.

arfabe16 · 05-15-2008, 07:56 PM

To be honest, I don't think this is a blow for scUM (and I hate scUM as much as anyone).

Nichol is a talented guy, but scUM already has two QB's coming in for that class... and remember, RR doesn't like ACTUAL QB's, but guys that can run really fast and OCCASIONALLY throw the ball, like Pat White.

That's why he got the two QB's he got, and why Nichol wasn't the ideal guy for his system.

WCS · 05-15-2008, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Parrot Head

what about stand on the sidelines? can he travel with the team?

FWIU, teams are limited on who gets to be on the sidelines. So, I am not sure how that would work out. No doubt he'd do the same thing that Trevor Anderson did last year.

Nals · 05-15-2008, 07:59 PM

So who switches positions? Nick Foles or Keith Nichol?
(I really can't see Cousins switching to anything as he has no speed)

WCS · 05-15-2008, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by arfabe16

To be honest, I don't think this is a blow for scUM (and I hate scUM as much as anyone).

Nichol is a talented guy, but scUM already has two QB's coming in for that class... and remember, RR doesn't like ACTUAL QB's, but guys that can run really fast and OCCASIONALLY throw the ball, like Pat White.

That's why he got the two QB's he got, and why Nichol wasn't the ideal guy for his system.

According to a high school coach that posted on SM, Nichol played in a spread option offense in hs. The thing with KN though is that he is very talented in the passing game so it was logical to mix it up.

KN would have a huge leg up at umaa over the incoming players.

Also, dickrod will be changing his offense to meet the capabilities of the players and the level of competition. He is a D1 college coach, so I will give him the benefit of the doubt and believe that he will add in more pro-style schemes knowing that his qb will be killed in the big ten.

Jason Grilli's Sofa · 05-15-2008, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by WCS

umaa showed interest, but dickrod was too busy battling the courts over his indiscretions. KN would have been an instant starter at umaa. they wanted him bad but they lack the work ethic to get it done.

He would have had a year in the system and would have been ready to compete for the starting job this spring. He would have been well ahead of the true freshman coming in.

Anyone who uses the argument that a true frosh would be ahead of KN on the depth chart is pretty stupid.

You're completely clueless dude. I'm not even going to argue with you since it's clear you're just a schtick. All I'll say is this... could he have started at Michigan? Sure, of course he could since he's talented. Did Michigan show interest? no. And your part about not having the work ethic is the green light that you're a scthick. Come back when you're ready to stop being an idiot.

SpartanFan81 · 05-15-2008, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Nals

So who switches positions? Nick Foles or Keith Nichol?
(I really can't see Cousins switching to anything as he has no speed)

None of them have enough speed or skill sets for any other position other than QB.

Jaxon · 05-15-2008, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Nals

So who switches positions? Nick Foles or Keith Nichol?
(I really can't see Cousins switching to anything as he has no speed)

Neither. Both are QB's. Depth never hurt. One of them will obviously have to lose the position battle and be relegated to clipboard duty (or both assuming Cousins competes too). Whoever doesnt like their spot on the bench can transfer (either Foles or Cousins since Nichol wont transfer twice). In any case, it does not matter. We have upgraded at the position.

The only negative from this would be if Maxwell flops because of it.

WCS · 05-15-2008, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Jason Grilli's Sofa

You're completely clueless dude. I'm not even going to argue with you since it's clear you're just a schtick. All I'll say is this... could he have started at Michigan? Sure, of course he could since he's talented. Did Michigan show interest? no. And your part about not having the work ethic is the green light that you're a scthick. Come back when you're ready to stop being an idiot.

you michigan fans are really taking this hard. you are clueless...if umaa did not recruit KN as you want to believe, then the umaa staff is either really really ******ed or they lack the type of work ethic needed to be successful in the big ten.

you aren't helping your argument at all...

Desert Green · 05-15-2008, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by PortlandSpartan

I'm up in the air. My problem was never that he went to OU, it was just the way it was handled. I'm going to have to assume he came to MD hat in hand. I'll trust Coach D on this one.

That's my official position.

arfabe16 · 05-15-2008, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Spartan Hockey

Hoyer's career as starting QB is OVER...mark my words. As soon as they can this kid in, he starts

um... Keith Nichol won't be able to play until AFTER Hoyer graduates.

atlspartan73 · 05-15-2008, 08:04 PM

If true then good. I was never one to get into the bashing. Nothing wrong with gettin more talent. Any chance that he goes to another position with the numbers at QB?

Jaxon · 05-15-2008, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Spartan Hockey

Hoyer's career as starting QB is OVER...mark my words. As soon as they can this kid in, he starts

Hoyer is already penciled in for starter in 2008.

Nichol has no bearing on 2008 since he is ineligible for competition.

If this is trolling....

If this is not trolling....

AASpartan · 05-15-2008, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Big M

I know what I'm reading tonight!

http://www.spartantailgate.com/forum...-oklahoma.html

It's times like this I'm glad that I'm level-headed (for the most part).

arfabe16 · 05-15-2008, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by atlspartan73

If true then good. I was never one to get into the bashing. Nothing wrong with gettin more talent. Any chance that he goes to another position with the numbers at QB?

Dude, he was an Elite 11 QB and has some experience playing QB for a team like Oklahoma... he's not just some random transfer.

Solid QB. Solid get by MD and MSU football.

BrodieMSU · 05-15-2008, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Spartan Hockey

Hoyer's career as starting QB is OVER...mark my words. As soon as they can this kid in, he starts

Jaxon · 05-15-2008, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by arfabe16

Dude, he was an Elite 11 QB and has some experience playing QB for a team like Oklahoma... he's a QB.

"But, but, but

Foles is the second coming. Nichol might beat him out for starter, and then Foles cant be the second coming. It doesnt add up. He has to change positions before he wins the starting job in 2009.

Signed,

tRCMB Foles slurpers

Big M · 05-15-2008, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by AASpartan

It's times like this I'm glad that I'm level-headed (for the most part).

if Mallet or Boren transfers back to UM I'm totally screwed