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06-21-2008, 01:21 AM
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Allen can drank dat purple drank wid da best of em. tchea boi.
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06-21-2008, 02:09 AM
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I hope things work out but is anyone else sick of hearing about how good Herzog is in the offseason? I want him to be a good player but it seems like he is that guy that we hear about in practice or the offseason and we get out hopes up and nothing pans out. Last year I heard how great he was playing and then in games he did nothing (although he was not in very much). Am I alone on this?
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I got an idea - Stop listening to dorks on message boards talk about how good a player is playing in the offseason.
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06-21-2008, 03:50 AM
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He's probably right around 250 right now. 260-265 would probably be ideal for banging down low. In any event, he's made some great strides in that department and it's only June. Hopefully he doesn't get sick again and lose it all.
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Everyone has a kid like that every year. Herzog may or may not turn out OK, but the biggest knock on him was that he wasn't strong enough to get a lot of minutes in the Big Ten. I think that him adding almost 20 pounds in 2 months is pretty good news.
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Truth, he got sick last summer and the weight he was supposed to put on never materialized. It's one of the reasons he didn't see a lot of playing time last year, as it's ridiculously hard to put on weight during the season with all the practices and games. Hopefully this year he'll be a very good backup to Suton in the 5 spot along with a hopefully improved Ibok, should he keep gaining weight up to the start of practice. Herzog looks like a classic post up player when he's in, give the skinny guy some weight and another year and he should be fine. If all those pieces fall together and we see an improved Morgan/Gray (we know he has the athleticism, just stop shuffling the feet dude) /Roe/Green on the 4 spot, the interior game of MSU could be a very intimidating thing next year.
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06-21-2008, 06:42 AM
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I did see Herzog earlier this week and he looks like he put on a LITTLE weight. I wouldn't get carried away. Funny, when watching him practice a little I was thinking how hard it's going to be for the poor kid to ever put on weight.
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06-21-2008, 10:03 AM
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I am still not putting a lot of faith to Herzog this season.
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06-21-2008, 10:35 AM
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Tyler Hansborough is 6-9 and 250, maybe he only needs to gain a few more pounds.
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Herzog and Hansborough should NEVER be mentioned on the same thread. Hansborough would out muscle Herzog, if Hansborough had no hads and feet.
Its like comparing Carle Malone to Manute Bol.
Great that Herzog is a  , MSU would be extremely lucky if he could be as productive as Naymick. He is rail thin, does not have the strength or the quickness to compete down low in the B11. Maybe he can be serviceable in 2 years, but he will get killed down there.
Probally a great practice player, and a guy to get clean up minutes at the end of halves.
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06-21-2008, 12:18 PM
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Didn't Three 6 Mafia have a song about that years ago?
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It is called sippin on sum sizzurp.The song is from when the smoke clears.I watched a video of them on a tour bus with icp and they were drinking that stuff singing the song.I think the video was on youtube.
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06-21-2008, 01:35 PM
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Herzog and Hansborough should NEVER be mentioned on the same thread. Hansborough would out muscle Herzog, if Hansborough had no hads and feet.
Its like comparing Carle Malone to Manute Bol.
Great that Herzog is a , MSU would be extremely lucky if he could be as productive as Naymick. He is rail thin, does not have the strength or the quickness to compete down low in the B11. Maybe he can be serviceable in 2 years, but he will get killed down there.
Probally a great practice player, and a guy to get clean up minutes at the end of halves.
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Give me a little credit! I was only comparing Hansborough's relative height/wieght (6-9/250) to Herzog's (7-0/~250), smiply to suggest that he is now on par (weight and height-wise) with other D1bigs.
I wasn't comparing Herzog's skills to those of Hansborough, it never entered my mind to do so!
There's no need for me to place ANY expectations on this kid, that's what Izzo and his coaches are paid handsomely to do. I trust them to bring out Herzog's abilities, whatever those prove to be, when (he) is ready to produce.
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06-21-2008, 01:45 PM
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Give me a little credit! I was only comparing Hansborough's relative height/wieght (6-9/250) to Herzog's (7-0/~250), smiply to suggest that he is now on par (weight and height-wise) with other D1bigs.
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I probably would have compared his weight against a 7 footer with decent size....like Kosta Koufos, but that's just me 
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06-21-2008, 02:00 PM
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how much was Koufus?
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06-21-2008, 02:06 PM
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About 265. He wasn't a power post player, but he had enough bulk at 7'0" 265 that he wasn't getting pushed around.
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06-21-2008, 03:15 PM
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I probably would have compared his weight against a 7 footer with decent size....like Kosta Koufos, but that's just me |
Unfortunately, he didn't come to mind at the time, or I would have also. I just didn't think of him.
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06-21-2008, 03:21 PM
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Comp's summer blend kool-aid is refreshing.
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06-21-2008, 03:25 PM
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how much was Koufus?
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500k for one year with a 1 million dollar bonus if he completed his sophomore season.
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