Legal Advice: Deadbeat roommate - Page 2 - SpartanTailgate.com

Statepug · 08-23-2008, 08:23 PM

put one of these in his room

VP Sarah Palin · 08-23-2008, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Statepug

put one of these in his room

How many red X's can you fit in his room?

rob · 08-23-2008, 08:46 PM

enfinity · 08-23-2008, 09:37 PM

man that really sucks. may i ask exactly how much you've been screwed financially? how many months of rent does he owe you, how many utility bills, etc?

ignore all the idiots telling you stupid stuff, just go straight to the legal system. you don't want to do anything that could make it worse for you

Sparty2QP · 08-23-2008, 09:54 PM

I think the big part of it was that he gave the guy a break and still let him stay, then the guy took advantage of it and got farther behind.

Finally, when shmooth said he would put the guys stuff on the front lawn, the guy went on the offensive and said "If you touch my stuff I will call the cops on you immediately!"

Then said deadbeat went further saying "I dont want to lose a friendship. You will get your money, but threatining me is just wrong bro!" (is saying you are going to put someones stuff on the lawn a threat??)

So the guy is still trying to be buddy buddy so that he can take further advantage of getting further behind on some cheap ass rent.

Spartanjd01 · 08-23-2008, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Sparty2QP

Finally, when shmooth said he would put the guys stuff on the front lawn, the guy went on the offensive and said "If you touch my stuff I will call the cops on you immediately!"

He's a deadbeat tenant. Probably not his first time pulling the same bull****.

Spartan Al · 08-23-2008, 11:28 PM

Plan A: wait for him to fall asleep. quietly sneak into his room with a squirt gun loaded with hand lotion. start making some moaning sounds and shoot the squirt gun on him. When he wakes up, just stand there (hiding the gun) and smile.

Plan B: Remember the woodchipper scene from Fargo?

ARC · 08-23-2008, 11:30 PM

Sometimes people just make me sick.

Someone cares enough about you to literally open up his home to you and you pull this s**t??!!?

I GUARANTEE that this POS never had any intention of paying a dime and probably feels 100% entitled to this charity. Sad that the law protects these deadbeats in this situation. Ensures that most people won't help others who actually need it....

ArmySpartan22 · 08-23-2008, 11:45 PM

I wonder if you moved all his stuff to the basement, porch, or garage... would that be illegal? Tell him the room formerly known as his bedroom is now a shrine for berber carpet.

Or, why not call the police and tell them you two are gay lovers and you want him out because you're no longer in love?

STSM · 08-24-2008, 12:08 AM

HAve him "walk in on you" in the middle of having sex with another guy.

IGGcitable · 08-24-2008, 12:59 AM

Beat the f$#$# out of him.

VP Sarah Palin · 08-24-2008, 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by ArmySpartan22

I wonder if you moved all his stuff to the basement, porch, or garage... would that be illegal? Tell him the room formerly known as his bedroom is now a shrine for burber carpet. Or, why not call the police and tell them you two are gay lovers and you want him out because you're no longer in love?

1) call a few friends ahead of time.
2) wait until he leaves for a few hours
3) with help, collect his belongings carefully (videotape if necessary)
4) load up a car / truck and take his stuff to a storage unit (1 month is like 40 bucks)
5) change only the deadbolt (so you don't have to replace all locks)

P Rob · 08-24-2008, 01:57 AM

i forgot to mention these bad boys...

used it twice in college to get ******* roommates to pay me their share of utility bills.

MSUchick77 · 08-24-2008, 02:07 AM

Put his **** on craigslist and ebay.

Misterray · 08-24-2008, 02:21 AM

What shred of proof does this guy have that he lives there?

Has he paid ANY rent at all?

If not, change the locks, take his stuff, and dump it on the curb.

He NEVER lived there.

Never had lease.

Never was a tenant.

He was a guest who would not leave when asked. A trespasser.

It's your house and you don't know what the guy is talking about when he says he lives there.

He does not live there.

Misterray · 08-24-2008, 02:25 AM

Bottom line question for the lawyer types.

If I have a party and I let a guy crash on my couch overnight, do I have to give him 30 days notice to get him out if he decides that suddenly he lives there now?

Sparty2QP · 08-24-2008, 02:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Jason Grilli's Sofa

Few options:

1. Throw all his **** outside
2. Change the locks when he's out
3. Grow a pair and tell him he leaves now or you'll do it for him

All of those have been an option. In fact, I think when shmooth knocked on his door and the guy pretended to be "asleep" and shmooth knocked for another 5 minutes. Finally he says "DUDE!!! I WAS SLEEPING!! I HAVE NEVER WOKE YOU UP LIKE THAT!!!!" Shmooth said "I have never owed you X amount of money!!!" He said "Thats BS!!! I was sleeping" and slammed the door.. The time was about 6:55 PM. 2 minutes later dude storms out of the door and says "I cant talk now, I have to be to work in 3 minutes!!" So really, if he WAS sleeping and had to be to work in 5 minutes, would he really be mad that shmooth woke him up??

As far as growing a pair, nothing could be more wrong. shmooth was blunt "MY MONEY NOW, OR HIT THE DOOR!!! TWO OPTIONS!!!"

He even said to the dude when dude said he was sleeping "Listen mother ...... You have had 22 days to sleep while you weren't paying rent! You can get your ass up and give me my money!!!!"

All Your Base · 08-24-2008, 02:58 AM

Your deadbeat roommate and my nephew are probably in his new truck getting high right now.

Bastards....the both of them.

Todd Farkman · 08-24-2008, 04:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Sparty2QP

All of those have been an option. In fact, I think when shmooth knocked on his door and the guy pretended to be "asleep" and shmooth knocked for another 5 minutes. Finally he says "DUDE!!! I WAS SLEEPING!! I HAVE NEVER WOKE YOU UP LIKE THAT!!!!" Shmooth said "I have never owed you X amount of money!!!" He said "Thats BS!!! I was sleeping" and slammed the door.. The time was about 6:55 PM. 2 minutes later dude storms out of the door and says "I cant talk now, I have to be to work in 3 minutes!!" So really, if he WAS sleeping and had to be to work in 5 minutes, would he really be mad that shmooth woke him up??

As far as growing a pair, nothing could be more wrong. shmooth was blunt "MY MONEY NOW, OR HIT THE DOOR!!! TWO OPTIONS!!!"

He even said to the dude when dude said he was sleeping "Listen mother ...... You have had 22 days to sleep while you weren't paying rent! You can get your ass up and give me my money!!!!"

If you are bigger than the dude, tackle him, take his wallet and TAKE THE CASH.

SpartanStu · 08-24-2008, 12:25 PM

Move him into the smallest or dingyest room in the home. Hopefully you have a unfinished Michigan basement. Take the bedroom back and say you need it for an office.

hagger23 · 08-24-2008, 12:37 PM

It's the perfect crime.

Bullwrinkle · 08-24-2008, 01:00 PM

Small claims court is the way to go, get a judgement against him. Then track his parents down and let them know that he has that hanging over him. Chances are they will make good on the debt.

In the meantime - put everything he owns out on the curb immediately and change the locks. He has no basis whatsoever for a claim as he does not have an enforceable lease. If he did - you would be in possession of his security deposit.

Jaheab · 08-24-2008, 01:03 PM

A friend of mine has gone through this type of situation three times since he bought his house a couple of years ago. Twice it ended badly, with one ex-roommate basically fleeing the state to avoid paying up.

I was the one deadbeat renter who handled it like a man. I had lost my job and was one month behind on rent. When I was asked to leave I maned up and collected my ****, moved to my parents for a couple months, got my **** together, payed the guy back and we are still close friends.

I was pissed when he told me to get out but looking back on it I am glad he did it when he did. If I would have stuck around and ended up owing him more money like the other two it may have eventually turned bad like those did.

****ty situation shmooth. I wish you the best.

Todd Farkman · 08-24-2008, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Bullwrinkle

Small claims court is the way to go, get a judgement against him. Then track his parents down and let them know that he has that hanging over him. Chances are they will make good on the debt.

Only if you know his employer or the bank he has an account at. The court just doesn't say "pay him now". They say "ok, you owe him" and it's up to you to find a way to get the money.

My issue with this oral contract BS is anyone can lie. You can go to small claims (and it may take over 45 days to get into court, I know I just filed and its not until the middle of October for the hearing) and after 45 days, you get to court and the defendant can say "what contract? I never agreed to pay anything, show me the proof". And your ****ed out of the court costs and no where ahead.

My question to the lawyers about oral contracts is, why cant shmooth just lie about the contract? If the guys are friends it seems even easier to say that you were just being a pal, but now you need your space. That it wasn't a business transaction, just a friend doing another firend a favor.

I would forget about the small claims BS. Get with 2QP, figure out a story like "I just asked if you needed to crash here for a few months", go to the loser and tell what your story is and tell him to gtfo. If the guy says "you need 30 days", he's playing you, stop being a putz and kick his ass out.