why is wayne state such a crap school?

[Todd Farkman]

you go to their website and it looks like something done by high school kids. It's a total piece of crap.

Now I know WSU has some decent programs and some decent teachers. But are they forced to take Detroit residents? Or is there an affirmative action thing or something?

The school looks like a major joke, but I'm sure the money and resources are there to make it otherwise.

just venting, I want to go back to school and WSU would be the best option, but compared to MSU or UofM, it looks like dog ****.

[DTownPride]

Wayne State has many fine programs - way to trash a school by looking at its website. Do some research on the specifics areas you want to study there. It is affordable and its location is pretty nice.

[Ludicrous Speed]

They have a medical school. One of only three allopathic schools within this state. They get more state funding per pupil than MSU. They also produce 1/3 of the practicing physicians within this state. They are a very good school. They have a bad site, so what?

[VP Sarah Palin]

Originally Posted by Ludicrous Speed

They have a medical school. One of only three allopathic schools within this state. They get more state funding per pupil than MSU. They also produce 1/3 of the practicing physicians within this state. They are a very good school. They have a bad site, so what?

[Ludicrous Speed]

FTW, I've never been closer than driving by their campus. I work with a number of their grads, and I have a tremendous amount of respect for that institution. So, with only four total medical schools in Michigan, two at MSU, one at SCum, and one at WSU, it's idiotic to portray WSU as anything other than a top notch institution.

Add in the fact that the WSU faculty physicians group provide millions of dollars uncompensated care to the uninsured of Detroit. I know nothing of their other programs, but that fact alone gets my Irish up if anyone wants to disrespect WSU.

[Nals]

Originally Posted by Ludicrous Speed

They have a medical school. One of only three allopathic schools within this state. They get more state funding per pupil than MSU. They also produce 1/3 of the practicing physicians within this state. They are a very good school. They have a bad site, so what?

they have the largest medical school in the US, so they are producing more than 1/3 of the state's physicians, especially considering a lot of AA's head out of state/don't practice primary care.

[Ludicrous Speed]

Originally Posted by Nals

they have the largest medical school in the US, so they are producing more than 1/3 of the state's physicians, especially considering a lot of AA's head out of state/don't practice primary care.

Well if we're talking primary care then the MSU Osteopathic school probably produces the most physicians in that area. U of M the least, part of that being U of M has a world medical school. More of their grads specialize than MSU CHM, MSU COM, and WSU. It's rare to find a derm who went to one of the three other medical schools, just because the residency programs are so competitive.

[Ludicrous Speed]

Originally Posted by Sparticane

I agree with you right up until the bolded portion. That's just ludicrous.

You called?

[Ludicrous Speed]

Originally Posted by Sparticane

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That's my personal favorite. Mine's pretty good.

[Super Nintendo Chalmers]

Originally Posted by Sparticane

BTW, you have hands down one of the top 5 handles on this board. I think yours and "Super Nintendo Chalmers" are amongst my favorites.

I appreciate that sir.


And if you were to judge colleges by their advertisements, MSU and their Idong Ibok TV commercial would rank right below Lake Superior State.

[See Their Team Is WEAAAK!]

Originally Posted by Todd Farkman

you go to their website and it looks like something done by high school kids. It's a total piece of crap.

Now I know WSU has some decent programs and some decent teachers. But are they forced to take Detroit residents? Or is there an affirmative action thing or something?

The school looks like a major joke, but I'm sure the money and resources are there to make it otherwise.

just venting, I want to go back to school and WSU would be the best option, but compared to MSU or UofM, it looks like dog ****.

Glad your complete judgment of the school is based on the website. Honestly, I don't think they focus on it that much.

[Ludicrous Speed]

Originally Posted by Super Nintendo Chalmers

I appreciate that sir.


And if you were to judge colleges by their advertisements, MSU and their Idong Ibok TV commercial would rank right below Lake Superior State.

That's being kind. Our commercials suck.

[Todd Farkman]

Originally Posted by Ludicrous Speed

but that fact alone gets my Irish up if anyone wants to disrespect WSU.

I actually attended WSU. WSU has profs from UofMAA teach there.

But the student population is easily subpar to UofM/MSU. They must be very liberal in who they let in. And there are administration issues with the school as well, you can't help feel like the school is run by Kwame's friends....or idiots that got the job because someone is related to them in high places.

The website is a symbol of how the school is run: a mess.

So I'm not going to argue that there aren't some great programs and great educators. I'm just wondering why the rest of the school comes off like a giant CLUSTER ****.

Like someone said above, they get plenty of money.

[See Their Team Is WEAAAK!]

Originally Posted by Todd Farkman

I actually attended WSU. WSU has profs from UofMAA teach there.

But the student population is easily subpar to UofM/MSU. They must be very liberal in who they let in. And there are administration issues with the school as well, you can't help feel like the school is run by Kwame's friends....or idiots that got the job because someone is related to them in high places.

The website is a symbol of how the school is run: a mess.

So I'm not going to argue that there aren't some great programs and great educators. I'm just wondering why the rest of the school comes off like a giant CLUSTER ****.

Like someone said above, they get plenty of money.

Of course the student body is not comparable to U-M or MSU. That's not WSU's mission. What good is having three highly selective universities in the state? It's an affordable, decent option for Michigan residents. Good. What a stupid argument.

Basically Wayne is there to counteract the fact that U-M would rather educate New York and New Jersey's best than actual Michiganders.

[Scottan]

Originally Posted by Ludicrous Speed

FTW, I've never been closer than driving by their campus. I work with a number of their grads, and I have a tremendous amount of respect for that institution. So, with only four total medical schools in Michigan, two at MSU, one at SCum, and one at WSU, it's idiotic to portray WSU as anything other than a top notch institution.

FYI, MSU is the only (last I knew) institution with 3 medical schools.

[Chewy Goodness]

Originally Posted by Ludicrous Speed

Well if we're talking primary care then the MSU Osteopathic school probably produces the most physicians in that area. U of M the least, part of that being U of M has a world medical school. More of their grads specialize than MSU CHM, MSU COM, and WSU. It's rare to find a derm who went to one of the three other medical schools, just because the residency programs are so competitive.

Wayne Med is effed as soon as Beaumont/Oakland's new med school kicks them out of Beaumont. Also, MSU-CHM is doubling in size. Many of my wife's classmates secured residencies in competitive specialties... Between MSU-CHM and Wayne Med, at least MSU will have a shot at becoming ranked in research into the coming years... Wayne is stagnant and declining...

[See Their Team Is WEAAAK!]

Originally Posted by Ludicrous Speed

FTW, I've never been closer than driving by their campus. I work with a number of their grads, and I have a tremendous amount of respect for that institution. So, with only four total medical schools in Michigan, two at MSU, one at SCum, and one at WSU, it's idiotic to portray WSU as anything other than a top notch institution.

Add in the fact that the WSU faculty physicians group provide millions of dollars uncompensated care to the uninsured of Detroit. I know nothing of their other programs, but that fact alone gets my Irish up if anyone wants to disrespect WSU.

Wayne has law, medical and dental. It was said pretty recently that if Wayne had Big Ten sports like MSU and UM, people would have a much higher opinion of the school academically, and I tend to agree.

[See Their Team Is WEAAAK!]

Originally Posted by Chewy Goodness

Wayne Med is effed as soon as Beaumont/Oakland's new med school kicks them out of Beaumont. Also, MSU-CHM is doubling in size. Many of my wife's classmates secured residencies in competitive specialties as did she... Between MSU-CHM and Wayne Med, at least MSU will have a shot at becoming ranked in research into the coming years... Wayne is stagnant and declining...

Isn't Wayne's med school affiliated with DMC? I don't know what Beaumont has to do with things. Plus, I'd say there's room for the additional med school without it hurting the existing schools. It's a profession in huge demand. It's not like we are talking about another law school.

[Chewy Goodness]

Originally Posted by Polanco's Melon

Wayne has law, medical and dental. It was said pretty recently that if Wayne had Big Ten sports like MSU and UM, people would have a much higher opinion of the school academically, and I tend to agree.

Wayne law is behind MSU, and has no dental school.

[Todd Farkman]

Originally Posted by Polanco's Melon

Of course the student body is not comparable to U-M or MSU. That's not WSU's mission. What good is having three highly selective universities in the state? It's an affordable, decent option for Michigan residents. Good. What a stupid argument.

Basically Wayne is there to counteract the fact that U-M would rather educate New York and New Jersey's best than actual Michiganders.

How is that schools like Oakland U and Lawrence Tech have there **** together but WSU doesn't?

Affordable or not, whoever is running the school is doing a piss poor job.

[tosip]

It's been 20 years but I remember going to visit a high school buddy. He lived in a roach infested apartment near campus. Prostititute bars and stores with cashiers behind bullet proof glass. I'm sure the area is much better now!

That said, I never heard bad things about the education. I wouldn't hesitate to go there if it's the best choice for you.

[Chewy Goodness]

Originally Posted by Polanco's Melon

Isn't Wayne's med school affiliated with DMC? I don't know what Beaumont has to do with things. Plus, I'd say there's room for the additional med school without it hurting the existing schools. It's a profession in huge demand. It's not like we are talking about another law school.

Beaumont is a much better institution than DMC...very good residency programs...DMC is your typical detroit institution.

[See Their Team Is WEAAAK!]

Originally Posted by Todd Farkman

How is that schools like Oakland U and Lawrence Tech have there **** together but WSU doesn't?

Affordable or not, whoever is running the school is doing a piss poor job.

How is it that Lawrence Tech and Oakland have their **** together but not WSU? Can you give examples? Although it probably helps Larry Tech that it has like 4000 students total compared to like 25000 at Wayne.