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Old 10-17-2008, 10:06 PM   #51 (permalink)
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Old 10-17-2008, 10:14 PM   #53 (permalink)
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Old 10-17-2008, 10:29 PM   #54 (permalink)


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If those leadership qualities equate to greatness is anyones book they are
Stalin I think would have something to say about that
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Old 10-17-2008, 10:31 PM   #55 (permalink)


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Stalin I think would have something to say about that
Speak up or shut up, Joe

28M civilians and 14M soldiers died in the European War. That's 42,000,000 deaths which can probably be blamed on Hitler to one extent or another.
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Old 10-17-2008, 10:33 PM   #56 (permalink)
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Old 10-17-2008, 10:34 PM   #57 (permalink)


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Guess I missed this one. Is there any video up of this or has Disney already taking care of that?
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Old 10-17-2008, 10:35 PM   #58 (permalink)
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Are people really going to argue the merits of what that crazy, old, pissbag had to say?! What's the point?! Just enjoy the fact that a guy who is so obviously biased against our school just said that Hitler was a great leader on national television.
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Why are people so sensative about Hitler? If he had said Stalin, would there be such an outcry? FYI, Stalin killed a whole lot of innocent people during his tenure as well.
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Well that's definetely more than one word.
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So would Pol Pot

He seems like a good-enough guy.

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Speak up or shut up, Joe

28M civilians and 14M soldiers died in the European War. That's 42,000,000 deaths which can probably be blamed on Hitler to one extent or another.
This guy says Stalin's probably responsible for as many as 43,000,000 deaths, so he's go Der Fuhrer beat.

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This guy says Stalin's probably responsible for as many as 43,000,000 deaths, so he's go Der Fuhrer beat.

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I would suggest that great leaders lead people to do great things. By that definition Hitler was the opposite of a great leader.

I've heard the "Hitler was a great leader" topic mentioned in every single college course I took where leadership was discussed. (Both grad and undergrad classes.)

Granted, its probably not the best example to say on a college football TV show. But its certainly not the kind of comment a person should lose his/her job over...otherwise, there are a few MSU profs who should prepare for the firings too.

Hitler was a horrible person who lead people to do horrible things. But, he did "lead" them to do it.

Which, I suppose, is why so many college profs and textbooks use him as an example of leadership. So that people don't forget that you can lead people to do both good and bad things.
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I've heard the "Hitler was a great leader" topic mentioned in every single college course I took where leadership was discussed. (Both grad and undergrad classes.)

Granted, its probably not the best example to say on a college football TV show. But its certainly not the kind of comment a person should lose his/her job over...otherwise, there are a few MSU profs who should prepare for the firings too.

Hitler was a horrible person who lead people to do horrible things. But, he did "lead" them to do it.

Which, I suppose, is why so many college profs and textbooks use him as an example of leadership. So that people don't forget that you can lead people to do both good and bad things.
Has no place in the college football context where coaches are supposedly charged with leading young men to positive futures in football & life.
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I've heard the "Hitler was a great leader" topic mentioned in every single college course I took where leadership was discussed. (Both grad and undergrad classes.)

Granted, its probably not the best example to say on a college football TV show. But its certainly not the kind of comment a person should lose his/her job over...otherwise, there are a few MSU profs who should prepare for the firings too.

Hitler was a horrible person who lead people to do horrible things. But, he did "lead" them to do it.

Which, I suppose, is why so many college profs and textbooks use him as an example of leadership. So that people don't forget that you can lead people to do both good and bad things.
yeah, you all are probably right. I'll blame this on a shortcoming of the English language, there should be some words that distinguish those who lead for good and those who "lead" for bad. How do we distinguish a "great" leader from a "poor" leader? By the number of people who followed the "leader"? Or by the results of said leadership? The dominant lemming leads his followers to the sea. Is that really leadership?

BTW, professors and football commentators have very, very different jobs. Many topics that a professor might take on in his/her day to day line of work could be very inappropriate for a sports reporter and vice versa.
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