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12-28-2008, 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Bumping
All I can picture with this law is it being enforced too strictly. Some parent will leave their kid in their car while they go into the corner store to grab some milk, come out and a cop will be taking their kid to child welfare.
Between this and the smoking thread, i'm developing quite a hate for government tonight. Everywhere I turn there is regulation and some law that I'm probably breaking. The government is taking good people and turning them into criminals. If they really want to fix the problems with the backed up judicial system and prisons overflowing, they could start by making less laws.
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There are a lot of dumb-a** people who lack common sense and we need these laws to protect us from those dumb-a** people and to protect them from their dumb-a** selves.
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12-28-2008, 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Spartanfan
There are a lot of dumb-a** people who lack common sense and we need these laws to protect us from those dumb-a** people and to protect them from their dumb-a** selves.
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Agreed. Where is the law requiring parents to feed their kids? Shouldn't there be one by now?
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12-28-2008, 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Spartanfan
There are a lot of dumb-a** people who lack common sense and we need these laws to protect us from those dumb-a** people and to protect them from their dumb-a** selves.
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Hence the reason why this country (and world, for that matter) needs breeding laws.
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12-28-2008, 06:49 PM
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1) My dad would open hand slap at the dinner table out of nowhere.
2) My dad put a belt, wooden spoon, and a small bat on the table and said pick when we were punished. Then we had to lay across his lap naked to get beat.
3) If we swore, we had to eat a small bar of soap.
4) On vacation if we acted up, we had to stand in a corner all night and he would check on us periodically to make sure we didn't fall asleep.
5) we were feed liver and pees on occasion, had to clean our plates, took hours.
Is this wrong? 
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12-28-2008, 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by mavdoc8
1) My dad would open hand slap at the dinner table out of nowhere.
2) My dad put a belt, wooden spoon, and a small bat on the table and said pick when we were punished. Then we had to lay across his lap naked to get beat.
3) If we swore, we had to eat a small bar of soap.
4) On vacation if we acted up, we had to stand in a corner all night and he would check on us periodically to make sure we didn't fall asleep.
5) we were feed liver and pees on occasion, had to clean our plates, took hours.
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Feeding kids liver is definitely illegal now as it constitutes cruel and unusual punishment.
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12-28-2008, 07:54 PM
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My parents had a 1956 Ford Fairlane identical to the one pictured below. I can remember taking a trip to visit relatives in Massachusetts, and my mother would set up a blanket and small pillow on the ledge of the back window where my sisters and I could sleep. The ledge was wide enough for a young child (three or four years old) to lie down without feeling cramped.
My sisters and I laugh about it now, but that was a very dangerous place to put a child, but my parents never were stopped by law enforcement for having us back there.
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12-28-2008, 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by the Junkyard Dog
Hey, too many kids have died for being left in the care 3,4,5 hours at a time. Normally, I would eb with you, but you jabe to think about the moronic paremts who have cost their kids their lives under these circumstances.
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Ah, natural selection at it's best. Do you really want people that stupid to be procreating and passing on their gene pool? Imagine how many idiots would fill the earth...
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12-28-2008, 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Spartan4ever
My sisters and I laugh about it now, but that was a very dangerous place to put a child, but my parents never were stopped by law enforcement for having us back there. 
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These stories remind me of a story my office-mate told me recently from her childhood.
Her family was traveling back from a family vacation and witnessed an accident. Apparently there was a family a car or two ahead of them with a child sleeping in the back of a station wagon...one of the ones where the rear window rolled down.
Something happened to cause that family to slam on the brakes. The kid popped right out of the rear end of the station wagon and into the truck behind them.
Anyhow, awful story, I know. She (my office-mate) said she had nightmares a long time after that about the kid flying out of the rear window and into that truck.
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12-28-2008, 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by PeachPitNat
- I have pictures of my Grandpa holding me in the hospital waiting room, after I was born, with a smoke hanging out of his mouth.
- Letting me sit on my Dad's lap and "steer" the car when I was about 10.
- Putting whiskey on my gums when I was an infant to "calm me down".
- Sending me into the store to buy my Mom or Dad cigarettes when I was a kid.
I think it's a good thing that people wait to have kids now. Parents in the late teens-early twenties usually isn't a good thing.
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 Are you me? I did/dah all of this done too me.
For the rest of the posters...
Road pops for dad... check
Ass whoopings... check
Neighbors issuing ass whoopings... yes
Driving at an unusually young age... yes
Operating dangerous machines at an unusually young age... yep
moms "van" with the whole team and no belts... hell yes
Whoever said washing paint off with gasoline... I do that... my dad taught me, is it bad ?
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12-28-2008, 11:50 PM
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In 1969 I was like 6 years old and the story goes my mom sent me down to the corner store for a six pack of beer. I guess my dad wanted one and my mom was cooking dinner. They swear the guy gave it to me and I brought it home. I can't remember, but they claim it to be so.
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12-28-2008, 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted by mavdoc8
1) My dad would open hand slap at the dinner table out of nowhere.
2) My dad put a belt, wooden spoon, and a small bat on the table and said pick when we were punished. Then we had to lay across his lap naked to get beat.
3) If we swore, we had to eat a small bar of soap.
4) On vacation if we acted up, we had to stand in a corner all night and he would check on us periodically to make sure we didn't fall asleep.
5) we were feed liver and pees on occasion, had to clean our plates, took hours.
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again... just about all of this went on in my house.  Were you born in the mid 70s?
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12-28-2008, 11:53 PM
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Originally Posted by dwags
In 1969 I was like 6 years old and the story goes my mom sent me down to the corner store for a six pack of beer. I guess my dad wanted one and my mom was cooking dinner. They swear the guy gave it to me and I brought it home. I can't remember, but they claim it to be so.
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I remember walking to the corner store down from my grandparents house and buying cigarettes for my mom and aunts. Couldn't have been more than 9 or 10 at the time.
My mom and aunts were busy helping my grandparents with something at their house, so they sent me instead. I think they might have sent a note, but I can't recall for sure?
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12-28-2008, 11:54 PM
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5) we were feed liver and pees on occasion, had to clean our plates, took hours.
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That depends on if you actually meant "pee" or "peas".
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12-29-2008, 12:00 AM
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I remember walking to the corner store down from my grandparents house and buying cigarettes for my mom and aunts. Couldn't have been more than 9 or 10 at the time.
My mom and aunts were busy helping my grandparents with something at their house, so they sent me instead. I think they might have sent a note, but I can't recall for sure? 
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Yeah, mom says she sent a note with me thinking nothing of it. Still, can you imagine doing that with your child now?
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12-29-2008, 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted by SitWhenYouGraduate
Apparently, Mark Meadows just got a bill passed in the state congress that makes it illegal to leave your kids in the car for any period of time. My mom used to leave me in the car alll the time, hell, I requested to be left in the car when she would go into get something from the grocery store or something. The pussification of children in the Aughts is just pathetic.
What else is illegal (or frowned upon by general society) that used to be a regular thing when you were a kid?
Here's the link for anyone interested: Michigan Messenger » Bill to make leaving children unattended in a car heads to Gov’s desk
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There are already laws on the books that cover the scenarios this legislation is supposed to address: Leave your kid in the car for 5 mins. on a 95 degree day; it's child endangerment. But, by all means, lets keep building up the number of laws on our books so that someone can use it in their campaign literature the next time they run. Someone should leave this ********* in a car on a 95 degree day and not punish the offender.
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12-29-2008, 12:03 AM
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Dad used to send me to the corner store and a gas station up the street with a note to buy cigs for him all the time and they never refused it. At the same time he knew the people who worked at both and if I ever tried to pull a fast one I would have been busted. Not that I would have; I hated cigarette smoke as a kid and still do. Still, I can't imagine anyplace going for this today.
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12-29-2008, 12:04 AM
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Yeah, mom says she sent a note with me thinking nothing of it. Still, can you imagine doing that with your child now?
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Its just different now... in 1984 my dad could send me up to Clark to get him smokes because they knew whos kid I was, they knew him, he would be in there the next day and on and on...
The corner 76 is now the Costco gas station.
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12-29-2008, 12:04 AM
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Yeah, mom says she sent a note with me thinking nothing of it. Still, can you imagine doing that with your child now?
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 Hell no.
(Actually, I wouldn't let a kid the age I was back then even make the walk from my grandparents old house to the corner store unaccompanied. Their old neighborhood ain't what it used to be.  )
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12-29-2008, 12:06 AM
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Pssh. ur all p*****s for not doing the things you've listed in this thread to your kids. All of this helped make you who you are and your generation is the one making these things illegal, and if not illegal then at least not socially acceptable. Heck, 90% of the things listed in this thread aren't any more illegal now then they were 30 years ago.
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I'm going to try and describe you the best I can.
You sit in the front row to the left of the announcers and you get hype during the Jewish thing at the beginning of the games.
You are the definition of college fans. Please disregard any and ALL threads about the Izzone sucking, these do not apply to you. 
This is coming from a fellow Izzoner.
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12-29-2008, 12:08 AM
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Pssh. ur all p*****s for not doing the things you've listed in this thread to your kids. All of this helped make you who you are and your generation is the one making these things illegal, and if not illegal then at least not socially acceptable. Heck, 90% of the things listed in this thread aren't any more illegal now then they were 30 years ago.
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Look jr...  The kids from the "free love" 60s are the ones ****ing this all up and making all of these rules... wait until the late 70s kids take over.
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12-29-2008, 12:27 AM
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Used to get hit by teachers, mostly nuns, with yardsticks, pointers, rulers, etc.
If I complained to my dad, I'd get it twice as bad for ever doing something dumb enough to have a nun hit you in the first place
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12-29-2008, 12:46 AM
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my dad used to beat me with his belt... WHILE HE WAS STILL WEARING IT! 
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12-29-2008, 12:55 AM
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Let me be an altar boy.
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12-29-2008, 01:08 AM
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I remember constantly reminding my parents to wear their seat belts when I was a kid. They just never did it unless I was there. It took them a long time even after laws were passed to get used to wearing their seat belts.
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12-29-2008, 01:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Madison1991
There are already laws on the books that cover the scenarios this legislation is supposed to address: Leave your kid in the car for 5 mins. on a 95 degree day; it's child endangerment. But, by all means, lets keep building up the number of laws on our books so that someone can use it in their campaign literature the next time they run. Someone should leave this ********* in a car on a 95 degree day and not punish the offender.
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Wait, do you mean leave me in the car on a 95 degree day? Because that would be a bit of a stretch.
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