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View Poll Results: most dominant athlete of our generation
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tiger woods
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roger federer
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micheal jordan
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michael phelps
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wayne gretzky
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barry bonds
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jerry rice
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07-05-2009, 09:45 PM
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Muhammed Ali. (whose generation?)
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he would not fit into the last 20 or so years...influential yes, but i think that foreman and frazier would have something to say about him being the most dominant of that generation.
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07-05-2009, 09:46 PM
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Hulk Hogan
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You've got to be kidding. Was Hogan the 16 time world champ?
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07-05-2009, 09:47 PM
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they haven't gotten much love, but do most agree that bonds and rice are the best we have seen in their respective sports in the past 20 years.
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07-05-2009, 10:14 PM
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Best in history of TEAM sport is Gretzky, hand downs statistically. Tennis, golf and boxing are different deals.
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You almost need to make that distinction between team sports and individual sports.
It is easier to be dominant when you don't have to depend upon outside factors like teammates and franchise owners.
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07-05-2009, 10:20 PM
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Lance Armstrong. 7 Tour de France victories in a row, in a sport where winning two in a row is nearly unheard of.
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Thats why I voted other.
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07-05-2009, 10:22 PM
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You've got to be kidding. Was Hogan the 16 time world champ?
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Hogan beat Flair several times.
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07-05-2009, 10:23 PM
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they haven't gotten much love, but do most agree that bonds and rice are the best we have seen in their respective sports in the past 20 years.
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so sad that injures did Griffey in
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07-05-2009, 10:35 PM
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Lance Armstrong. 7 Tour de France victories in a row, in a sport where winning two in a row is nearly unheard of.
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Hogan beat Flair several times.
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Hogan is also the last man to hold any world title for over 2 years ( 4 year run from Jan 84- Feb 88)
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07-05-2009, 10:54 PM
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Hogan is also the last man to hold any world title for over 2 years ( 4 year run from Jan 84- Feb 88)
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Shouldn't the script writer be the best then?
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07-05-2009, 10:59 PM
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Of course he is. He is considered my most to be the best male tennis player ever. If you're referring to Nadal, it's too early to say.
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I'm pretty sure he was referring to Pete Sampras, the guy that Federer just passed in overall grand slam titles. And he won his last grand slam in 2002, so he certainly fits the criteria here. Also, he's married to Veronica Vaughn (so hot, want to touch the heiney).
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07-05-2009, 11:04 PM
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influential yes, but i think that foreman and frazier would have something to say about him being the most dominant of that generation.
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I guess you had to be there...
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07-05-2009, 11:12 PM
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I guess you had to be there...
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Mike Tyson was awfully dominant from the time he started until the Buster Douglas debacle...and we all know what happened from there. But I was watching "Mike Tyson's Greatest Hits II" on ESPN a couple weeks ago, and he would just absolutely destroy people....even when he was in the upper echelons of the heavyweights, all it took was one good punch and it was lights out. Not comparing Tyson to all the other greats listed here (I simply haven't seen enough of them and know very little about boxing in the first place), but man was he fun to watch when he was young.
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07-05-2009, 11:15 PM
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All time? Wonder how 99 would have fared against 9. You take an old Gordie Howe and he was still taking kids to school. WG was very good, perhaps the best of our generation, but ALL TIME?
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Howe - Total Points: 1,850
Gretzky - Assists: 1,963
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07-05-2009, 11:16 PM
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Howe - Total Points: 1,850
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Way different eras.
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07-05-2009, 11:27 PM
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07-05-2009, 11:33 PM
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7 wins in a row is amazing but 3 others have won five times (not in a row) and others 3 times including Greg Lemond in the 1980's. Armstrong (if we believe he was clean) was a great rider and had a great team which is hugely important in this sport.
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Spin it however you want, but he's easily the most dominant cyclist of all time, and arguably the most dominant athlete of "our generation".
No one has mounted a serious challenge to his dominance for nearly a decade.
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No time to read all posts, but if anyone who thinks they have TWO braincells at all when talking about sports, and domination in our era in that regard; and DOESN'T have a tie on top between Lance Armstrong, and Roger freaking Federer; knows jack about athletic competition.
Oh, and schott. What was that BS comment about - "IF we believe Lance was CLEAN" - crap?
That right there should disqualify you from posting ever again in this thread.
And the other guy is a no brainer. Roger Federer for sure.
The Woods talk makes me laugh. That's like saying some NecKar guy like a Gordon or someone.
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Get a life. There are plenty of people in the know who think that Lance was dirty. I'm not saying he was but this sport is so dirty that it wouldn't surprise me in the least if he had doped. I participate in some heavy duty cycling forums and there is far from a consensus that he was clean.
Also, you are so wrong about Tiger Woods. To compare him to a Nascar driver is the height of hate.
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07-05-2009, 11:50 PM
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Spin it however you want, but he's easily the most dominant cyclist of all time, and arguably the most dominant athlete of "our generation".
No one has mounted a serious challenge to his dominance for nearly a decade.
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Throw in the sub-3:00 marathons and almost winning a mountain bike race in his first competitive race back from retirement.
He's arguably the most tested athlete in the world and has never come up positive. And it's bad rationalization, but if he did, he just would have been on level playing field with everyone else.
Having a great team shouldn't disqualify Lance any faster than having Scottie Pippen and Phil Jackson should disqualify Michael Jordan. Lance lead and helped select his team better than anyone else, and beat out a bunch of great T-Mobile teams that arguably had more talent.
There's two knocks you can make against Lance: he was so focused on the Tour de France that we'll never know if he could have been a great Classics rider, or if he could have won all three grand tours in a year, but then we don't penalize Tiger for focusing on the majors; and even the most dominating general classification rider will never totally dominate the sport because they can't sprint, but then again we don't penalize Gretzky for not being a good goalie.
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07-05-2009, 11:51 PM
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Not really a fair question considering Tiger and Federer's Careers are not over, If you are going by dominating a single sport it is definitely one of those two.
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lewwy - lewwy - lewwy.
Dude said "dominant ATHLETE in our gen."
Not who's dominating HIS/HER sport.
And even then, right now, it's Federer. And a case can be made for Armstrong. As far as people currently dominating their sports. (Relatively recently anyway.)
Heck, LA was SO dominant and was winning so much, the guy took some time off. Then, with ratings and the sport of cycling going to pot; they enticed him to come back out. Now, go and listen to VS. do a show on the Tour. They mention Lance so often; it's almost as sickening as the word Woods 6,000 times a day on Golf channel or any tournament airtime.
IMO - It's RF & LA in a dead heat. With Barry Sanders real close.
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I mean, the mere fact that Chris Troy didn't even list Armstrong; should have gotten a mod to disqualify the poll as mere entertainment purposes only; not meant to be a serious poll of well educated sports buffs and observers. Mind boggling.
Lance Armstrong is a freaks freak; okay?
And again; you Woods groupies? - Uh, not even a sport, okay? Not even close to being an athlete. If friggin John Daly and Phil "Man Tits" Mickleson can win a Major as so called "athletes" in a sport, then we got problems.
You want to list athletes, you stick with hockey - tennis - running - and all the contact sports. Baseball and golf do not compute.
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I'd love for you to explain way baseball does not compute into the equation. Many people say that hitting a baseball is the hardest thing to do in sports. So any explanation you could give to me would be fantastic.
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I mean, the mere fact that Chris Troy didn't even list Armstrong; should have gotten a mod to disqualify the poll as mere entertainment purposes only; not meant to be a serious poll of well educated sports buffs and observers. Mind boggling.
Lance Armstrong is a freaks freak; okay?
And again; you Woods groupies? - Uh, not even a sport, okay? Not even close to being an athlete. If friggin John Daly and Phil "Man Tits" Mickleson can win a Major as so called "athletes" in a sport, then we got problems.
You want to list athletes, you stick with hockey - tennis - running - and all the contact sports. Baseball and golf do not compute.
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Feel free to make up your own definition of athlete, just don't expect everyone to agree with you. (BTW, the dictionary definition is "a person who is trained or skilled in exercises, sports, or games requiring physical strength, agility, or stamina", which certainly includes Tiger).
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