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11-02-2009, 10:01 PM
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It's only 9 years old. Perplexing or just good old crappy american crapsmanship.
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For lower end to even mid level water heaters the life expectancy is about 10 years.
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11-02-2009, 10:07 PM
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I don't have a softener and you are correct about the crappy scaly water. I bet that's what did it. It's all scaled up and crapped out.  |
I currently have family in Florida and know about the water.
Its a bit more expensive but you might want to consider putting in a softener with a cold water T bypass if you are drinking water out of the tap so water going to the hot water heater, shower(s) and washer/dish washer is softened. Your water isn't going to get better.
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11-02-2009, 10:20 PM
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You don't have a softner? In FLA?
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11-02-2009, 10:24 PM
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It's only 9 years old. Came with the house when I built it. Kinda sucks. I thought those things lived for like 20 years. How much for 66 gallon heater? Any cost estimates?
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I had one go down after about 15 years with a 20 or 25 year warranty. Not a whole lot from the pro-ration, but it was better than paying the full freight for the replacement. Better check your owner's manual (yeah I'm sure you know exactly where that is) or the manufacturer's web site.
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11-07-2009, 03:27 AM
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Bump since tanner is up. Ever get this fixed?
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His defense was the only reason we were in that game at all. He dominated the Iowa offense for 58mins. MSU held a top 10 team to 15 points and their only TD came with 2 secs left.
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Originally Posted by Hecklers
you forgot the other quintessential RCMB accessories when commenting on your personal life - you hit a three wood 285 yards off the tee straight down the middle of the fairway every time, you are a practicing lawyer whose net worth rivals many small nations, and your schmeckle is the size of table leg.
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11-07-2009, 03:33 AM
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Yup. Got an 80 gallon from lowes installed. The old one was full of sediment. Effing Florida hard water destroys stuff
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11-07-2009, 03:34 AM
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The only good thing about that is the placement of your heater. That would be a bitch getting that up and down stairs 
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His defense was the only reason we were in that game at all. He dominated the Iowa offense for 58mins. MSU held a top 10 team to 15 points and their only TD came with 2 secs left.
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Originally Posted by Hecklers
you forgot the other quintessential RCMB accessories when commenting on your personal life - you hit a three wood 285 yards off the tee straight down the middle of the fairway every time, you are a practicing lawyer whose net worth rivals many small nations, and your schmeckle is the size of table leg.
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11-07-2009, 03:42 AM
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Tanner.
Couple of things. How big is the "Pool of water". When the weather changes, sometimes the tank has more condensation and drips around on the ground and freaks you out. It's usually dry when the water heats up though, check that first. Then check the drain valve. You can get rid of some leaks just by tightening it, or replacing it. Finally it could be the temperature Pressure Release valve too. Thats supposed to happen. If it's about 10 years old, I'd just spend the money, call the plumber and replace the tank. It's a pain in the ass, but just do it. Sometimes the thing just gets corroded. I just replaced one after checking it. One last suggestion, have you thought about just buying a new house? 
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11-07-2009, 04:00 AM
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Tanner.
Couple of things. How big is the "Pool of water". When the weather changes, sometimes the tank has more condensation and drips around on the ground and freaks you out. It's usually dry when the water heats up though, check that first. Then check the drain valve. You can get rid of some leaks just by tightening it, or replacing it. Finally it could be the temperature Pressure Release valve too. Thats supposed to happen. If it's about 10 years old, I'd just spend the money, call the plumber and replace the tank. It's a pain in the ass, but just do it. Sometimes the thing just gets corroded. I just replaced one after checking it. One last suggestion, have you thought about just buying a new house? |
Reminds me of the new Bissell vacuum commercial where the valley girl vacuum says, "Why don't you just get a new carpet?" 
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11-07-2009, 05:04 AM
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Time for a new house.
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11-07-2009, 06:25 AM
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Why call a plumber?? That will cost you almost as much as the new heater. Water heaters are easy to install. I just replaced one at my girlfriends house. It took me 45 minutes tops and that was mostly due to draining the old heater. Use an appliance dolly to move the new one in and the old one out. If you have to redo any of the pipes and you're not good at soldering, go to Ace Hardware or a Do It Center and buy Just for Copper. It's just like PVC cement but it's for copper and brass. That stuff is awesome 
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11-07-2009, 06:41 AM
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Why call a plumber??
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I'm fairly certain Tanfan doesn't do anything but clog toilets and pay people to plunge them.
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Water heaters are easy to install. I just replaced one at my girlfriends house. It took me 45 minutes tops and that was mostly due to draining the old heater.
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You're a liar.
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If you have to redo any of the pipes and you're not good at soldering, go to Ace Hardware or a Do It Center and buy Just for Copper. It's just like PVC cement but it's for copper and brass. That stuff is awesome
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You're a hack.
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11-07-2009, 07:29 AM
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Pantry, I am actually quite handy around the house. I put in all of my ceiling fans, all of the dimmers, all new door hardware, a pool fountain, and the surround system in the master and the family room. I was going to put the water heater in myself but the electrical connection was beyond my know how. Plus I had a good week financially so I let lowes take out the old effer and haul it away and install the new one.
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11-07-2009, 07:55 AM
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If you did the fans and dimmers what was so complex about the water heater?
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11-07-2009, 08:05 AM
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check out this sweet bad boy!!!! 
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11-07-2009, 08:06 AM
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If you did the fans and dimmers what was so complex about the water heater?
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see the connection on the top of the heater? I don't know how to do that. electrician work.
80 gallons of pure ecstasy.
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Dantonio's response: "Well Paul, hold on a second, Paul, hold on a second, because the look I saw on Michigan's faces was 'Oh, no, the Spartans beat us again.'"
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11-07-2009, 08:07 AM
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there is a button on top that allows me to tell it I am going on vacation and it will energy save. Pretty cool
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Dantonio's response: "Well Paul, hold on a second, Paul, hold on a second, because the look I saw on Michigan's faces was 'Oh, no, the Spartans beat us again.'"
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11-07-2009, 08:21 AM
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I see now. No gas...a 220 heater making the install even simpler. What did they charge you to put it in?
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11-07-2009, 08:24 AM
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Have one of your minions drain a gallon or so of sediment rich water out of the tap at the bottom of the tank every couple of months and this one will last longer.
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11-07-2009, 08:44 AM
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I see now. No gas...a 220 heater making the install even simpler. What did they charge you to put it in?
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Too much. How do you install 220?
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11-07-2009, 08:45 AM
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Have one of your minions drain a gallon or so of sediment rich water out of the tap at the bottom of the tank every couple of months and this one will last longer.
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I'll try that. Thanks
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11-07-2009, 08:56 AM
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Too much. How do you install 220?
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It's 110 with an extra leg. It's just wires man...they're all the same as long as the power is off.
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11-07-2009, 09:03 AM
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Too much. How do you install 220?
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Very carefully.
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11-07-2009, 09:08 AM
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Too much. How do you install 220?
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220, 221, its all the same man.
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11-07-2009, 09:13 AM
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It's 110 with an extra leg. It's just wires man...they're all the same as long as the power is off.
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I scared of 220.
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