LAKS wants some answers from the BT on those crap replays

GRR Spartan · 11-05-2009, 10:06 AM

Most major conference university presidents know athletics are a fund raising and marketing tool for their schools. John Hannah was a pioneer when it came to this. He was active in athletics administration when many other university presidents felt it was beneath them. McPherson and LAKS are following his example.

Since the MSU is a member of the Big Ten and the BTN is "owned" by conference I see nothing wrong with the highest official of MSU going to the meeting and asking questions.

Jaxon · 11-05-2009, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by GRR Spartan

Most major conference university presidents know athletics are a fund raising and marketing tool for their schools. John Hannah was a pioneer when it came to this. He was active in athletics administration when many other university presidents felt it was beneath them. McPherson and LAKS are following his example.

Since the MSU is a member of the Big Ten and the BTN is "owned" by conference I see nothing wrong with the highest official of MSU going to the meeting and asking questions.

Giant Moose · 11-05-2009, 10:14 AM

Waste of time. The Big Ten doesn't care. Sorry, Lou Anna, you should be more focused on the university sitting in a wasteland state with programs being cut rather than sports officiating.

john michael kane · 11-05-2009, 10:14 AM

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I would be all behind this if programs at MSU weren't being cut and tuition wasn't going up by double-digit percents. LAKS is doing a great job, but you should probably have Hollis out in Chicago worrying about the replay while you tackle one of the biggest economic crises in university history. Just sayin.

This is the same BS argument that people use against the president (regardless of who it is). Do you really think that someone can dedicate themselves 24/7/365 to making the economy better?

"WTF is Obama/Bush/Clinton/Bush/Reagan/Carter doing pooping? Our country is going to hell in a hand basket and he is just sitting on the toilet reading the newspaper!"

Sorry, but there are many dimensions of administration and, as far as MSU is concerned, athletics profit the University multi-millions a year and LAKS knows that. If the biggest revenue sport at MSU is getting screwed over in their games, it affects ticket sales, the image of the football program, and let's face it, the image of the University as a whole.

Just sayin'.

EDIT: Not to mention the entire lack of accountability in Big Ten officiating.

fishrose · 11-05-2009, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Duh Psyience Detective

I guess I see it differently....it is about winning and coaching to win.

You can blow sunshine about the refs all you want, but I demand excellence and consistency from Big Ten officiating crews.

ping1050 · 11-05-2009, 10:25 AM

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MSURed · 11-05-2009, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Giant Moose

Waste of time. The Big Ten doesn't care. Sorry, Lou Anna, you should be more focused on the university sitting in a wasteland state with programs being cut rather than sports officiating.

What makes you think that she's not?

Nevermind, I'm sure you know everything she has done over the last month and that we should all be outraged

HUT1HUT2 · 11-05-2009, 10:30 AM

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If I were the president of Indiana, I would slam a fifth of Wild Turkey and then crash the meeting and try and start some **** - we may have gotten hosed a couple of times by replay, but Indiana has been raped.

Agreed. Indiana's season has been ruined.

Um, but isn't this Mark H.'s job? What are the other AD's doing?

fishrose · 11-05-2009, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Duh Psyience Detective

I guess I put more emphasis on teaching kids how to tackle properly first. That replay of the very first play was a pretty crappy replay.

I just think it's stupid that you're on this giant crusade (in all of your 7 posts) to hold the coaches accountable, but you don't give a damn about holding the (blatantly incompetent) replay officials and refs accountable.

GRR Spartan · 11-05-2009, 10:31 AM

Giant Moose is a contradiction machine. LAKS needs to stay on campus, MSU needs to kick the amateur fireworks goofs out of school forever.

All or nothing every time.

Did the Moose ever consider the fact she might also talk with other Big Ten representatives about their athletic programs? Maybe meet with some well heeled MUS alums who are in the Greater Chicago area to prime the donor pump? I doubt it.

Giant Moose · 11-05-2009, 10:32 AM

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What makes you think that she's not?

Nevermind, I'm sure you know everything she has done over the last month and that we should all be outraged

It seems petty from the president. Her football coach already fought the battle and lost. The Big Ten has already said they don't care, and it is a waste of time for the university president to do this.

I do not think Lou Anna is a great president of MSU and that is from personal experience. But let everyone attack me now for not following the sheep.

HUT1HUT2 · 11-05-2009, 10:33 AM

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Has a video of the infamous fumble showed up online anywhere? Still nothing on youtube as far as I can see.

It sure has! Same video that show ND planting their flag at Spartan Stadium, Trannon slapping Fat Charlie and RichRod crying with actual tears in his press conference.

GRR Spartan · 11-05-2009, 10:35 AM

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Yeah. I guess your right let's never hold the coaches accountable. Let's just blame the officials for our craptastic season.

another DE troll.

Spartytruth · 11-05-2009, 10:37 AM

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another DE troll.

Agree. What does "hold accountable" mean?

Posting that we suck?

fishrose · 11-05-2009, 10:38 AM

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Agreed. Indiana's season has been ruined.

Um, but isn't this Mark H.'s job? What are the other AD's doing?

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It seems petty from the president. Her football coach already fought the battle and lost. The Big Ten has already said they don't care, and it is a waste of time for the university president to do this.

The president of a University carries a lot more weight than the athletic director. If she goes in to Delaney's office and says "listen mother****er, this **** won't be tolerated," it will have a much greater impact than someone whose job depends on the success of the athletic programs.

I'm sure part of the reason the Big Ten is letting this slide is because they want their "premier" programs to do well because it makes the conference more money, and the "little guys" won't stand up to it. Now at least one "little guy" is standing up to it, and I hope IU's president meets here there.

It isn't a waste of her time, either. It's a few hours taken out of the day to address a problem that influences the top source of income for the University beyond tuition.

Captain Blargh · 11-05-2009, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Giant Moose

It seems petty from the president. Her football coach already fought the battle and lost. The Big Ten has already said they don't care, and it is a waste of time for the university president to do this.

I do not think Lou Anna is a great president of MSU and that is from personal experience. But let everyone attack me now for not following the sheep.

If people like her don't ask questions, things will never change.

Can I assume that you think replay as it stands now can not be improved?

RPMadMSU · 11-05-2009, 10:44 AM

You know...There is no such thing as "Big Ten Officials." They are independent, and contracted by the Big Ten. The only thing the Big Ten can do about them at this point is not contract them in the future.

Just saying.

Giant Moose · 11-05-2009, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by GRR Spartan

Giant Moose is a contradiction machine. LAKS needs to stay on campus, MSU needs to kick the amateur fireworks goofs out of school forever.

All or nothing every time.

Did the Moose ever consider the fact she might also talk with other Big Ten representatives about their athletic programs? Maybe meet with some well heeled MUS alums who are in the Greater Chicago area to prime the donor pump? I doubt it.

I don't think Lou Anna needs to "stay on campus" -- in fact, I wish it was the opposite. This president has spent far too much time in academia at MSU and didn't experience outside things that are useful to prepare someone in the challenging role as university president.

Yeah, she is working hard, no doubt, and she cares a lot about athletics. I am sorry to bash her, but I think she deserves it on this one.

Blake Ezor · 11-05-2009, 10:47 AM

LAKS

Blake Ezor · 11-05-2009, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Trevor Barnes

She is the one MSU President during my lifetime that best understands what MSU sports mean for the university. She is a genuine MSU fan and a friend of MSU Athletics.

Yep

She understands the importance of a successful football team at a major Big Ten university....this goes beyond just athletics people.

The Dread Pirate Roberts · 11-05-2009, 10:51 AM

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She is the one MSU President during my lifetime that best understands what MSU sports mean for the university. She is a genuine MSU fan and a friend of MSU Athletics.

She's also the only woman.

fishrose · 11-05-2009, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by RPMadMSU

You know...There is no such thing as "Big Ten Officials." They are independent, and contracted by the Big Ten. The only thing the Big Ten can do about them at this point is not contract them in the future.

Just saying.

The replay officials are employees of the Big Ten, I believe. If they aren't, they are supposed to consult the Big Ten if a review brings a rule into question (a la Pylongate) instead of making things up on the spot.

macspartan · 11-05-2009, 10:52 AM

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Like that's what I posted. I guess you like the 500 yards of offense that the D gave up against the worst offense in the big ten. It's all the replays fault. No coaching errors at all. Even when the coach admits to being outcoached. Its the replays fault. Lol

Damn man is your IQ like 13 or is that your age? Don't you understand the point of this post is NOT about wins or loses by MSU. IT IS about officials getting the calls correct through instant replay (which should eliminate human error as much as possible)

Blake Ezor · 11-05-2009, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Giant Moose

Waste of time. The Big Ten doesn't care. Sorry, Lou Anna, you should be more focused on the university sitting in a wasteland state with programs being cut rather than sports officiating.

The police doesn't care if you fight that speeding ticket either but you do it anyway....it's not about whether the BT cares...it's about standing up for what's right...something you apparently don't do...if enough Presidents throw a fit, trust me, there will be changes.

Blake Ezor · 11-05-2009, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by RPMadMSU

You know...There is no such thing as "Big Ten Officials." They are independent, and contracted by the Big Ten. The only thing the Big Ten can do about them at this point is not contract them in the future.

Just saying.

just because they are contract employees doesn't mean the Big Ten doesn't have control over their performance.