LAKS wants some answers from the BT on those crap replays

[AvgMSUJoe]

Originally Posted by coach_

If I were the president of Indiana, I would slam a fifth of Wild Turkey and then crash the meeting and try and start some **** - we may have gotten hosed a couple of times by replay, but Indiana has been raped.

"Yeah, I said it... you ****in suck..."

Rip his(her?) shirt off...

"You lookin' at me... let's go bitch."

(old flabby white guys going the street fight route is funny.)

[75alum]

Originally Posted by Sigmakan

Good football team = happy alumni = more donations = less of budget problem

Seems like LAKS is doing her job. I'm sure shes had discussions with Dantonio about the team getting their act together. This is one of the few things she can leverage her power to possibly help the team (or prevent them from being screwed).

I'm glad shes doing this.

Thanks for helping some in this thread who feel the issue is separate from the economy and health of MSU. It shouldn't be that difficult to figure out but obviously for some, economic understanding is not a strong suit.

[Negotiator]

Originally Posted by fishrose

The president of a University carries a lot more weight than the athletic director. If she goes in to Delaney's office and says "listen mother****er, this **** won't be tolerated," it will have a much greater impact than someone whose job depends on the success of the athletic programs.

Originally Posted by Negotiator

I would donate $1,000 a year for 10 years if I got indisputable video evidence of this.

Originally Posted by RPMadMSU

(Though let me tell you something....She swears like a sailor in non-official roles...probably why she hasn't said anything about swearing in the stadium...officially).

So you're saying I may actually have to pay up? Crap.

[monty4msu]

Ok, so after she meets what happens? Do we get better calls in the WM game? Do we get a call overturned that favors us? If we do, then does PU next week start complaining? I am glad that she is doing this, the old adage holds true; the squeaky wheel gets the grease.

[Just1Spartan]

Originally Posted by Duh Psyience Detective

Yeah. I guess your right let's never hold the coaches accountable. Let's just blame the officials for our craptastic season.

This is such a troll post. The whole point is EVERYONE should be held accountable; if the players don't preform, they will be benched, if the program does not improve, the coaches will be replaced.

This particular thread is about LAKS stepping up to hopefully help the referee's and their replay system be held to a similar standard.

If you want to bitch about the coaches and the players and their mistakes in the game, there are literally dozens of threads here to do that in.

[RPMadMSU]

Originally Posted by monty4msu

Ok, so after she meets what happens? Do we get better calls in the WM game? Do we get a call overturned that favors us? If we do, then does PU next week start complaining? I am glad that she is doing this, the old adage holds true; the squeaky wheel gets the grease.

Probably nothing, but it could change the way, in the future that Officials are contracted, hired, and graded. More accountability usually means better quality. And better quality is all we're asking for.

[INDIMSU]

Originally Posted by monty4msu

Ok, so after she meets what happens? Do we get better calls in the WM game? Do we get a call overturned that favors us? If we do, then does PU next week start complaining? I am glad that she is doing this, the old adage holds true; the squeaky wheel gets the grease.

I would think that the effort would go toward the league holding the officials accountable for clearly incorrect calls.

The SEC has done that this year, the Big 10 has been reluctant to do that. And, again, for the MD hating schticks, this isn't just about MSU. Plenty of bad calls to go around and the league needs to clean it up.

[Rocinante]

Originally Posted by coach_

If I were the president of Indiana, I would slam a fifth of Wild Turkey and then crash the meeting and try and start some **** .

This struck me as extremely funny.

[Bullwrinkle]

Don't the 11 member institutions employ the Big 10 Commissioner? Shouldn't the presidents get together, summon Mr. Delaney to a meeting and simply tell him...start employing competent football and BASKETBALL officials, or you will be fired.

Otherwise, nothing is going to happen and this crap officiating and will continue to ruin games.

[ABeautifulDayForFootball]

Originally Posted by Duh Psyience Detective

Will Minnesota's president attend this whine session also?

You are the one who is whining by posting in this thread. Go eat a big bag of dicks.

[RPMadMSU]

Originally Posted by Bullwrinkle

Don't the 11 member institutions employ the Big 10 Commissioner? Shouldn't the presidents get together, summon Mr. Delaney to a meeting and simply tell him...start employing competent football and BASKETBALL officials, or you will be fired.

Otherwise, nothing is going to happen and this crap officiating and will continue to ruin games.

I dunno, but more and more I'm thinking Jim Delaney needs to retire.

I like a lot of what he's done (adding PSU, BTN, Early Instant replay, etc...) but he's in his 20th year as commissioner, and I don't think he's the one to steer the ship in today's and tomorrow's college athletics environment.

[RPMadMSU]

Originally Posted by Duh Psyience Detective

Will Minnesota's president attend this whine session also?

I KNEW "Sparty No!" couldn't stay away for long.

[boatmak]

Originally Posted by GRR Spartan

She can be rightfully concerned with the production of football broadcasts too. Especially the way the BTN avoids replays compared to other networks.

you understand that she is going to a big ten conference meeting to talk about the officials replay system and not the big ten network right?

[bigwali]

Originally Posted by GaTechSpartan

I would be all behind this if programs at MSU weren't being cut and tuition wasn't going up by double-digit percents. LAKS is doing a great job, but you should probably have Hollis out in Chicago worrying about the replay while you tackle one of the biggest economic crises in university history. Just sayin.

Football is big money and big business so she is correct in going, to raise the awareness of this problem, they seem to have with the replay system. Dantonio & Hollis escalated it and she took ownership. Way to go LAKS!

[GreenRamma]

Originally Posted by Trevor Barnes

She is the one MSU President during my lifetime that best understands what MSU sports mean for the university. She is a genuine MSU fan and a friend of MSU Athletics.

I thats why we love her! She's the best President of MSU since Hannah.

[blanch32]

FTR, If Barack Obama did this, I totally agree. But NOT our president--hell, this could be how she' spends a "vacation" day for all I care.

....and if this someone gives us generous officials come the purdue or PSU game, then hell, I'm ALL for it!

[Loose Stools]

Originally Posted by Trevor Barnes

She is the one MSU President during my lifetime that best understands what MSU sports mean for the university. She is a genuine MSU fan and a friend of MSU Athletics.

She has been the best President in my lifetime (since Hannah). I've sent her a couple of emails, and she answered both. I was . When Praire Home Companion came here a few years ago, she hammered UM on national radio, too.

She gets MSU sports, simply gets it.

[sprtnbrn]

Originally Posted by Pablo Fanque

I think it needs to prove there is no anti-ANYBODY agenda!

I don't believe there's a conspiracy against MSU. I think the replay people are so incompetent they don't understand that deference is to be given to the call on the field. That's where we've seen the most egregious errors in replay. It's not so much that they are upholding awful calls as they are reversing the right ones. I still can't believe the pylon call. That is an incredible amount of incompetence.

And if I remember correctly on the infamous pylon play, David Witvoet admitted that he knew the replay official was applying the wrong rule and couldn't overrule the replay official. When I heard that, I was stunned. The fact that a replay official didn't even know the rules was a joke.

[richwig]

Originally Posted by fishrose

It isn't a waste of her time, either. It's a few hours taken out of the day to address a problem that influences the top source of income for the University beyond tuition.

Could you please document this claim? External grants and donations have to be the top source of income for the university's general fund. Royalties from MSU's one wonder drug invention, Cisplatin, brought in millions over the years.

When people complain about the high cost of athletics programs, the retort is that athletics has its own budget. That cuts both ways. Please cite a source and quote dollar amounts justifying your claim that athletics not only pays its own way, but also contributes to the university's general coffers.

(I am not arguing one way or the other about whether a university president should deign to second guess football officiating. Just want the facts straight.)

[Kam Fong as Chin Ho]

Originally Posted by Duh Psyience Detective

I guess I put more emphasis on teaching kids how to tackle properly first. That replay of the very first play was a pretty crappy replay.

Who is this '****?

Jesus Christ, you idiot, you're saying that unless MSU makes every play during the entire game perfectly, then it doesn't matter if the Spartans get jailsexed by crap officiating.



edit: I had no idea that a word meaning, uh, "an adjustment made in the setting of the distributor of an internal-combustion engine so that the spark for ignition in each cylinder is generated later in the cycle" would be edited by the language filter.

[MiamiSpartan]

If that overturned fumble was an isolated incident, I doubt she'd go. But for MSU alone, we also had the Pylon issue last year. When the replay officials clearly do not know the rules of the game, then there is a problem. You have to assume that those aren't the only incidents, which means LAKS and other presidents have every right to call into question the system.

[Kam Fong as Chin Ho]

Originally Posted by MiamiSpartan

If that overturned fumble was an isolated incident, I doubt she'd go. But for MSU alone, we also had the Pylon issue last year. When the replay officials clearly do not know the rules of the game, then there is a problem. You have to assume that those aren't the only incidents, which means LAKS and other presidents have every right to call into question the system.

To say nothing of the Iowa play.

[Giant Moose]

Originally Posted by Gotham_Spartan

First of all, she has broad and vocal support from a lot of people who could never, ever be classified as sheep. At the same time, that does not, of course, automatically mean they are all correct. Be all that as it may:

Just what do you think she should be doing differently?

Spartanly yours,

I wish I could get into it more, but even in an anonymous online world, things could come back to me. I know that sounds like a cop out, but... it is what it is. Probably should have not brought it up.

At least she didn't fall asleep at an affirmative action meeting like McPherson did, though: The State News : Snoozing slip-up

[Pablo Fanque]

And the RCMB Idiot of the Week award goes to...*drumroll*

Originally Posted by Duh Psyience Detective

Like that's what I posted. I guess you like the 500 yards of offense that the D gave up against the worst offense in the big ten. It's all the replays fault. No coaching errors at all. Even when the coach admits to being outcoached. Its the replays fault. Lol

[Bruce Banner Ad]

Originally Posted by T.C.O.B.

The official crew makes about $1,000 per game (each). The head referee makes about $1,100 per game.

Here is an article that gives you a little behind the scenes look at what officials do the night before, and day of a game. Incidentally, the crew that is the focus of this article is the crew that worked the UM v MSU game this year.

It's official: These zebras earn their stripes - Illinois Fighting Illini Sports Football News - IlliniHQ.com

The late hit call in that game was another one of my favorites.

This crew should be banned from CFB. They were terrible, both ways.