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...and playing only Cousins puts you in the same position Iowa finds itself in....Stanzi goes down with an ankle sprain and all they have is an inexperienced q.b. to rely on and it was a disaster. Any program with 2 quality q.b.s should play both so you have a solid backup in an emergency.
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Michigan State is not a program with two quality QBs, unfortunately.
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11-07-2009, 06:57 PM
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Nice stats but it's against WMU.
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22/25 is damn good against still air
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11-07-2009, 07:06 PM
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With two drops from B. White.
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The second drop was when Nichol was in.
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11-07-2009, 07:16 PM
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...and playing only Cousins puts you in the same position Iowa finds itself in....Stanzi goes down with an ankle sprain and all they have is an inexperienced q.b. to rely on and it was a disaster. Any program with 2 quality q.b.s should play both so you have a solid backup in an emergency.
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When the circumstance presents itself, like the 2nd half today. Not in a tight game at Minnesota that you're fighting to get back into.
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11-07-2009, 07:18 PM
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Nice stats but it's against WMU.
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And Nichol was 6/10 for 30 yds (3.0 per pass vs. 14.1 for Cousins)
Against WMU.
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11-07-2009, 07:32 PM
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11-07-2009, 07:35 PM
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If you thought that Nichol was given a full set of possible plays - rather than a set to work on - you are not a very observant football fan.
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This is all the more reason why he shoulda looked stellar in the first half but didn't. It was all nice and dumbed-down for him, but he played like crap on the first series he took. He was better once the game was well in hand.
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11-07-2009, 08:10 PM
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How pretty was that pass to Martin for the TD? Loooong throw and hit him on the hands right in stride.
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That was right where I was (3rd row up from the left field goal post)... it was beautiful. I knew it as soon as Kirk let it go, I stood up, put my hands up and screamed before almost anyone in the area around me did
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11-07-2009, 08:11 PM
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That was right where I was (3rd row up from the left field goal post)... it was beautiful. I knew it as soon as Kirk let it go, I stood up, put my hands up and screamed before almost anyone in the area around me did |
How did you know Martin was going to catch it?
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11-07-2009, 08:14 PM
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How did you know Martin was going to catch it?
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Men's intuition, or ESPN
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11-07-2009, 08:37 PM
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Folks, it was pretty obvious to me that Cousins could sling it when Hoyer got hurt against OSU last year and he came in and hit 11 in a row. I was really impressed with him.
As far as Nichol, give Nichols a break, I think more people on this board think they know more than Dantonio when it comes to his QB's. He needs some PT and we will need him if Cousins goes down.
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11-07-2009, 08:40 PM
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Michigan State is not a program with two quality QBs, unfortunately.
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That's why Dantonio is trying to give them both reps. Did anyone see what happned to Iowa after Stanzi got hurt today? Folks, It wasn't pretty.
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11-07-2009, 08:54 PM
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"Kirk Cousins will win the Heisman Trophy in 2011." -- Beano Cook
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Did he really say that?
Because if he did that's awesome
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11-07-2009, 08:56 PM
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And Nichol was 6/10 for 30 yds (3.0 per pass vs. 14.1 for Cousins)
Against WMU.
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And? Sorry but I'm not all for Nichol.
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11-07-2009, 09:01 PM
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Folks, it was pretty obvious to me that Cousins could sling it when Hoyer got hurt against OSU last year and he came in and hit 11 in a row. I was really impressed with him.
As far as Nichol, give Nichols a break, I think more people on this board think they know more than Dantonio when it comes to his QB's. He needs some PT and we will need him if Cousins goes down.
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will people stop with this crap??!?!? It's the most idiotic reasoning i've ever heard....NO ONE plays back ups just to get them experience in case of a future injury to a starter like D has with Nichol. NO ONE. Why? Because your starter gives you the best chance to win! The idea that D is putting Nichol in the second quarter after Cousins drove down for a td to give him experience in case Cousins gets hurt is just idiotic. It's patently clear that he is doing it for some other reason - and the only one that makes sense is that promises were made in the course of his transfer. But to say that he is doing it to give him reps in case Kirk gets hurt is not merely stupid, but suggests our coach is a moran too.
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11-07-2009, 09:06 PM
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And? Sorry but I'm not all for Nichol.
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and suggesting Cousins' numbers were inflated because of the competition does very little for the pro-Nichol crowd considering Keith's numbers comparatively sucked.
but i forget that our team is so fragile and playing with fear of injury so we better give all the back ups a lot of PT in case a starter gets hurt...got to have them prepared! who cares if it costs us a couple of wins...we'll be prepared for injuries that probably won't happen in the future!
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Why not U-M? They're arrogant. - Edwin Baker, RB
But when Cousins gets sacked with less than five minutes to go in the 4th, shouting "****ing son of a ********ing bitchwhore" is a whole lot more cathartic than saying "you know, my good chap, the inability of our offensive line to block has me quite frustrated." - fishrose
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11-07-2009, 09:39 PM
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With two drops from B. White.
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Exactly, should have been 24/25 except White can't catch a pass! I think the other incomplete was an intentional throw OB to avoid a sack. Not one mistake today. I don't care if its a scrimage COusins had a great day.
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11-07-2009, 09:47 PM
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Exactly, should have been 24/25 except White can't catch a pass!
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One really hopes this is snark...otherwise... 
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11-07-2009, 10:09 PM
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will people stop with this crap??!?!? It's the most idiotic reasoning i've ever heard....NO ONE plays back ups just to get them experience in case of a future injury to a starter like D has with Nichol. NO ONE. Why? Because your starter gives you the best chance to win! The idea that D is putting Nichol in the second quarter after Cousins drove down for a td to give him experience in case Cousins gets hurt is just idiotic. It's patently clear that he is doing it for some other reason - and the only one that makes sense is that promises were made in the course of his transfer. But to say that he is doing it to give him reps in case Kirk gets hurt is not merely stupid, but suggests our coach is a moran too.
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Stop it, your killing me. No where in my post did I mention playing Nichols in the second quarter for experience. I said he needs to play to gain experience in case Cousins goes down. Every coach does that when the opportunity presents itself. He may have promised Nichol playing time, it's entirely possible but we don't know what he said or didn't say. The bottom line is the kid has talent and Dantonio wants to reward the kid with some PT. Read before you vent.
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11-07-2009, 11:37 PM
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...and playing only Cousins puts you in the same position Iowa finds itself in....Stanzi goes down with an ankle sprain and all they have is an inexperienced q.b. to rely on and it was a disaster. Any program with 2 quality q.b.s should play both so you have a solid backup in an emergency.
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I agree, that is why I am so mad that Greg Jones plays so much. What if he goes down? We need to develop talent behind him. I'd limit his playing time to half the downs.
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11-07-2009, 11:47 PM
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solid game by kirk...but we all know that we need to give the defense a different look by putting nichol in
at least its never cost us some momentum/a game 
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11-08-2009, 12:41 AM
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I agree, that is why I am so mad that Greg Jones plays so much. What if he goes down? We need to develop talent behind him. I'd limit his playing time to half the downs.
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While we're at it, why is Bates doing all the punting? We need to get the backup punter some reps in case Bates gets hurt. They should also probably swap out the entire offensive line unit a few times per half, just to get them experience in case the starters get hurt.
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11-08-2009, 12:53 AM
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"Kirk Cousins will win the Heisman Trophy in 2011." -- Beano Cook
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11-08-2009, 01:00 AM
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he's not a "co-starter". He is a starter.
I like what was done with Nichol. Put him in, Cousins kept getting hit late and if we're up big, he doesn't need to be in the game.
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