Could We Still Miss A Bowl Possibly

[Truman Capote]

Originally Posted by Zakath

Don't take it to the bank yet. The wild card in all of that could be Pitt if they manage to win the Big East and deal Cincy its only loss. Going to be hard to pass up an 11-1 Cincinnati vs. a potentially 9-3 Penn State should we beat them. If TCU and Boise State both run the table, they're both getting BCS bids.

You're off your rocker if you think 2 mid-majors are going to the BCS. The bowls don't like picking mid-majors because they have small fan bases and don't bring a lot of money. The only reason they ever pick the one mid-major is because they're forced to.

[Vince of 231]

Originally Posted by fishrose

1.) I think scUM would get snapped up by a higher-picking bowl
2.) If it came down to MSU and UM, I really think Perles would make sure the Spartans got in. Ford Field would sell out for either team, so it wouldn't matter from a financial standpoint.

If we're both 6-6, there are 8 teams chasing 7 bowl bids. Their being picked sooner doesn't help at all. And I'm not sure it can happen if there is a 7-5 conference team available. If they lose to tOSU, there are 7 teams for 7 bowls and we're in for sure.

[Jud Owns Digger]

Here are the new bowl projections from CBSSportsline. These make a lot of sense.

College Football Bowls - CBSSports.com

Rose- OSU vs. Oregon
Fiesta- Iowa vs. Boise state
Capital One- Penn State vs. LSU
Outback- Wisconsin vs. Tennessee
Champs Sports- Northwestern vs. North Carolina
Alamo- Michigan State vs. Oklahoma
Insight- Minnesota vs. Texas Tech

Pizza Bowl left with at-large. Overall CBS predicts 5 open slots. The Insight Bowl would not be happy getting Minnesota again.

[fishrose]

Originally Posted by Vince of 231

If we're both 6-6, there are 8 teams chasing 7 bowl bids. Their being picked sooner doesn't help at all. And I'm not sure it can happen if there is a 7-5 conference team available. If they lose to tOSU, there are 7 teams for 7 bowls and we're in for sure.

Sure it does. If they were to hypothetically go to the Insight or Alamo or whatever, the Pizza Bowl would pick MSU over any other Big Ten team because they would be guaranteed a sellout.

This is a stupid discussion anyway though, because there is no way in hell scUM is gonna beat OSU.

[Venice Spartan]

Originally Posted by The Truman Show

You're off your rocker if you think 2 mid-majors are going to the BCS. The bowls don't like picking mid-majors because they have small fan bases and don't bring a lot of money. The only reason they ever pick the one mid-major is because they're forced to.

They will pick 2 this year if both are undefeated.

A few seats sold means nothing to them compared to having to spend a year in congressional hearings about why they passed on a Top 5 Team

[MSURed]

Originally Posted by the Junkyard Dog

scUM is more then 2 games behind us in conf. standings. Even if we lose and they beat OSU, they are still 2 games behind us.

Originally Posted by the Junkyard Dog

One team cant jump another team if they are more then +1 in the confrence standings. So dont worry bout scUM.

So much fail.

I wish Trevor would make one of those threads that everyone is directed to the next time they go to the board, explaining bowl selection procedures. Then they should have to pass a short quiz. The question will be:

1. Do conference records matter one ****ing bit after the Rose Bowl?

If you pass, you may continue to post. I'd be open to adding more questions if people deem it necessary.

[Spartacus81]

Originally Posted by MSURed

So much fail.

I wish Trevor would make one of those threads that everyone is directed to the next time they go to the board, explaining bowl selection procedures. Then they should have to pass a short quiz. The question will be:

1. Do conference records matter one ****ing bit after the Rose Bowl?

If you pass, you may continue to post. I'd be open to adding more questions if people deem it necessary.

It'd be sweet to date a girl who knew as much about football as red.

After CLR intercepted tate in overtime, my girlfriend asked me why MSU got the ball back at the 25. Well, at least she lets me go to all the games.

[Vince of 231]

Originally Posted by MSURed

So much fail.

I wish Trevor would make one of those threads that everyone is directed to the next time they go to the board, explaining bowl selection procedures. Then they should have to pass a short quiz. The question will be:

1. Do conference records matter one ****ing bit after the Rose Bowl?

If you pass, you may continue to post. I'd be open to adding more questions if people deem it necessary.

Need a pass/fail question about the red shirt rule, as well.

And how important the last trip to Pasadena is in the Big Ten tiebreaker.

Those are two more than continually come up wrong on here

[FredH]

Originally Posted by fishrose

Sure it does. If they were to hypothetically go to the Insight or Alamo or whatever, the Pizza Bowl would pick MSU over any other Big Ten team because they would be guaranteed a sellout.

This is a stupid discussion anyway though, because there is no way in hell scUM is gonna beat OSU.

It is a stupid discussion, as you point out, but you're post above is wrong IF (again, this will NOT happen) scUM wins and Minn wins. Minn or Northwestern, with 7 wins, can NOT be left out of the Big Ten bowls in favor of a 6-6 team. Thus, while a higher bowl could take scUM, the Pizza Pizza would then be stuck with 7 win NU or Minny (unless we beat PSU ).

[MSURed]

Originally Posted by Spartacus81

It'd be sweet to date a girl who knew as much about football as red.

After CLR intercepted tate in overtime, my girlfriend asked me why MSU got the ball back at the 25. Well, at least she lets me go to all the games.

That's just as important and a more realistic goal given the shortage of chicks like me and DPR

Originally Posted by Vince of 231

Need a pass/fail question about the red shirt rule, as well.

And how important the last trip to Pasadena is in the Big Ten tiebreaker.

Those are two more than continually come up wrong on here

Done.

Maybe we could have a harder question that would have to be passed in order to be able to start threads. Perhaps about the criteria for a 6-6 team to be selected before a 7-5 team.

[Truman Capote]

Originally Posted by Venice Spartan

They will pick 2 this year if both are undefeated.

A few seats sold means nothing to them compared to having to spend a year in congressional hearings about why they passed on a Top 5 Team

That makes absolutely no sense at all.

[Truman Capote]

Originally Posted by Duh Psyience Detective

Is there anyone out there that thinks .500 teams shouldn't be going to bowl games?

I thought the original idea behind the bowl games was to reward excellence.

Let's get a play off and forget these meaningless games.

And what's the deal with airline food?

[Venice Spartan]

Originally Posted by The Truman Show

That makes absolutely no sense at all.

The BCS will pick both BSU and TCU if they are undefeated.

If they don't pick them both and they are both Top 5 in the BCS, Congess will be all over their asses for anti-trust and shutting lesser conferences out of BCS Bowl money and thus in need of regulation.

The bowls are less worried about selling a few seats than they are of ending up in front of Congress

Which means this is a Total fail

Originally Posted by The Truman Show

You're off your rocker if you think 2 mid-majors are going to the BCS. The bowls don't like picking mid-majors because they have small fan bases and don't bring a lot of money. The only reason they ever pick the one mid-major is because they're forced to. .

[Truman Capote]

Originally Posted by Venice Spartan

The BCS will pick both BSU and TCU if they are undefeated.

If they don't pick them both and they are both Top 5 in the BCS, Congess will be all over their asses for anti-trust and shutting lesser conferences out of BCS Bowl money and thus in need of regulation.

The bowls are less worried about selling a few seats than they are of ending up in front of Congress

Which means this is a Total fail

No they won't. Whatever congressional issues are going to be on their asses regardless because they won't let BSU and TCU play for the national title. BCS games hate taking mid-majors. They don't have to take 2. Ipso facto.

Find me one bowl projection by a major publication that has 2 mid majors in the BCS. If it were as simple as you think it is, they would all be predicting that. No one actually thinks these teams are going to lose.

[Jud Owns Digger]

Originally Posted by The Truman Show

No they won't. Whatever congressional issues are going to be on their asses regardless because they won't let BSU and TCU play for the national title. BCS games hate taking mid-majors. They don't have to take 2. Ipso facto.

Find me one bowl projection by a major publication that has 2 mid majors in the BCS. If it were as simple as you think it is, they would all be predicting that. No one actually thinks these teams are going to lose.

Here you go:

College Football Bowls - CBSSports.com

[monty4msu]

Remember the good old days? If you went to a bowl game last year you couldnt go this year. Let the AD's vote on who should go. Life was much simpler then.

[JMSparty08]

Originally Posted by GRR Spartan

Stanford put USC in line for the Poinsettia or Emerald Bowl.

Tater Tot is going to out run the Ohio State linebackers?

Tator Tot might not make it out of the first half of that game alive. Did you see the hits that defense was putting on the Iowa ball carriers?

[Truman Capote]

Originally Posted by SpartyOnInChitown

Here you go:

College Football Bowls - CBSSports.com

Someone might want to clue in Rivals and Scout on the big scary anti-trust lawsuit that's going to have the BCS quaking in their boots.

[Taco John]

Originally Posted by Vince of 231

Need a pass/fail question about the red shirt rule, as well.

And how important the last trip to Pasadena is in the Big Ten tiebreaker.

Those are two more than continually come up wrong on here

I'd like to hear this question about the redshirt rule.

Because if it what I think it is, 90% of the people on this board will have to stop talking sports.

[Jud Owns Digger]

Originally Posted by The Truman Show

Someone might want to clue in Rivals and Scout on the big scary anti-trust lawsuit that's going to have the BCS quaking in their boots.

ESPN also has both TCU and BSU in BCS bowls.

NCAA College Football BCS Bowl Projections Week 10 - ESPN

[Truman Capote]

Originally Posted by SpartyOnInChitown

ESPN also has both TCU and BSU in BCS bowls.

NCAA College Football BCS Bowl Projections Week 10 - ESPN

Yes, I know. Can't believe Scout and Rivals are missing out on such a colossal story like the big congressional hearing.

[Venice Spartan]

Originally Posted by The Truman Show

Yes, I know. Can't believe Scout and Rivals are missing out on such a colossal story like the big congressional hearing.

Scout and Rivals?

[ancientspartan]

OK....so a key element is clearly the # of 7 and 5 or better teams at the end of the year....is there a web site that ranks all BCS teams in terms of wins/losses other than by conference? Would be nice to look at such a listing to see what the chances are of a 6 and 6 team being left out.

Edit: Just did a manual count using conference standing and Navy and N.D. as independents and I found 74 teams that could possibly end up at 7 and 5....of course, I didn't scrutinize the remaining schedules to see if any of the teams play each other ....I counted all teams with 5 and 5 records or better...and could have made a mistake or two. If I remember correctly, there are 34 bowl games and that equates to 68 teams.....so, looks to me like it would be wise for MSU to beat PSU and not rely on tOSU beating scUM to assure a bowl bid from the Big Ten tie-ins. Any one else look into an analysis of this?

Found the NCAA site with a .pdf of wins and losses! http://web1.ncaa.org/mfb/mainpage.jsp

[CanManWilly]

scUM wont beat OSU. Next topic.

[Styles G Shmooth]

I'm not sure Pizza Pizza would take a 9th place 2-6 finish U-M over MSU. Either team is a sellout, so they probably take the better team that won head to head. MSU-Central rematch would be huge around the state too.