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11-27-2009, 12:12 PM
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Drew Stanton should be starting in front of Matthew Stafford
After watching Stafford yesterday this became very apparent. Why the Lions are so stubborn is beyond me. Their offense is stale, and their innovation is lacking.
Short rant over.
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11-27-2009, 12:14 PM
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The Lions don't really have the talent to run a better offense. They have Stafford, Johnson, Pettigrew, and Smith. They have horrible 2nd, 3rd, and 4th WRs and no offensive line.
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11-27-2009, 12:19 PM
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Stafford is a million times better than Stanton. Sorry Drew but its true.
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11-27-2009, 12:20 PM
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With the Lion O-line, Stanton would be out-for-the-season injured within 2 or 3 starts.
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11-27-2009, 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by GoGreen1979
After watching Stafford yesterday this became very apparent. Why the Lions are so stubborn is beyond me. Their offense is stale, and their innovation is lacking.
Short rant over.
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If you think Stanton is the future, then by all means, play him.
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11-27-2009, 12:24 PM
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No way Stanton should be starting ahead of Stafford.
But based on the in you face pre-game conversation between Mayhew and Culpepper I think its possible that Stanton's chances of being on the roster next fall just jumped.
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11-27-2009, 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by GoGreen1979
After watching Stafford yesterday this became very apparent. Why the Lions are so stubborn is beyond me. Their offense is stale, and their innovation is lacking.
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Wow, that makes no sense. You want the Lions to bail on a guy they have to pay $41M? What would Drew Stanton bring to the offense that Matt Stafford doesn't?
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11-27-2009, 12:30 PM
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Stafford showed last week that he is the man for the Lions. The terrible Detroit o-line up against that brutal Green Bay pass rush would make any QB look like ****.
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11-27-2009, 12:32 PM
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We have an early candidate for dumbest post of the day. Congratulations.
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11-27-2009, 12:34 PM
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Stafford showed last week that he is the man for the Lions. The terrible Detroit o-line up against that brutal Green Bay pass rush would make any QB look like ****.
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By throwing 2 interceptions against CLEVELAND?....yeah ok....
I'm not necessarily saying whether Stanton would be any better, but Stafford has been awful this season. And with such a crappy offensive line, Stanton's mobility may actually be of benefit (assuming he doesnt get injured).
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11-27-2009, 12:37 PM
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By throwing 2 interceptions against CLEVELAND?....yeah ok....
I'm not necessarily saying whether Stanton would be any better, but Stafford has been awful this season. And with such a crappy offensive line, Stanton's mobility may actually be of benefit (assuming he doesnt get injured).
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The Lions invested 41 million in Stafford. Once they made him the starter on day 1, they became committed to him hell or high water. They have to ride out Stafford unless he's too hurt to play.
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11-27-2009, 12:42 PM
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Stafford's better. And he would get injured. Even Cleveland's DBs can make plays on the ball when the QB is under extreme pressure.
Of the list of problems, QB play lists about last (or second to last, behind Hanson).
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My point was Im sick of people all of a sudden claiming Stafford is the savior because he threw 5tds and 2ints against CLEVELAND, when hes been absolute garbage against everyone else. Every QB should be in the Pro Bowl after playing the Lions by that thinking.
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11-27-2009, 12:42 PM
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By throwing 2 interceptions against CLEVELAND?....yeah ok....
I'm not necessarily saying whether Stanton would be any better, but Stafford has been awful this season. And with such a crappy offensive line, Stanton's mobility may actually be of benefit (assuming he doesnt get injured).
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He is a rookie in the NFL on a team that, last year, was the worst team in the history of professional sports.
Look at his stats this year compared with Peyton Manning's stats in his first year. They are fairly similar. I'm not saying he's going to be Peyton Manning, but he isn't Ryan Leaf
Matthew Stafford NFL & AFL Football Statistics | Pro-Football-Reference.com
Peyton Manning NFL & AFL Football Statistics | Pro-Football-Reference.com
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11-27-2009, 12:43 PM
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My point was Im sick of people all of a sudden claiming Stafford is the savior because he threw 5tds and 2ints against CLEVELAND, when hes been absolute garbage against everyone else. Every QB should be in the Pro Bowl after playing the Lions by that thinking.
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That makes no sense at all.
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11-27-2009, 12:55 PM
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Manning had a better completion percentage, higher QB rating, higher TD%, and a lower Int%, so whats your point?
Stafford's numbers also look close to, or worse than, such stellar QBs as: Joey Harrington, Tim Couch.
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11-27-2009, 12:56 PM
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After watching Stafford yesterday this became very apparent. Why the Lions are so stubborn is beyond me. Their offense is stale, and their innovation is lacking.
Short rant over.
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Oh my God.
I don't even know where to start.
Did you eat a lot of paint chips as a kid?
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11-27-2009, 12:58 PM
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That makes no sense at all.
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How so? If you want to base Stafford's value off of one game against an awful team, then you might as well base every other QBs value off of playing the Lions (another awful team) which has made every QB this year (including Brady Quinn) look like a Hall of Famer.
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11-27-2009, 01:02 PM
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How so? If you want to base Stafford's value off of one game against an awful team, then you might as well base every other QBs value off of playing the Lions (another awful team) which has made every QB this year (including Brady Quinn) look like a Hall of Famer.
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And what exactly have we seen out of Stanton that makes us think he'd be any better than Stafford? I loved the kid at MSU but he's made of glass. Also you don't bench your number 1 draft pick once after you decide to start him. The Lions have too much money invested to bench him for a guy who's going to be a career 3rd stringer.
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11-27-2009, 01:03 PM
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Jeff Backus is one of the worst of not the worst offensive linemen out there.
That he has been a "franchise" player sums up how mismanaged the Lions are.
Doesn't matter who the QB is, Backus is the kiss of death.
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11-27-2009, 01:05 PM
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Jeff Backus is one of the worst of not the worst offensive linemen out there.
That he has been a "franchise" player sums up how mismanaged the Lions are.
Doesn't matter who the QB is, Backus is the kiss of death.
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Not to mention that Stafford is almost always playing from behind thanks to the worst secondary in the NFL. Of course he's going to throw some interceptions when he has a bad offensive line and has to throw a ton in an effort to play catch up.
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11-27-2009, 01:47 PM
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Not to mention that Stafford is almost always playing from behind thanks to the worst secondary in the NFL. Of course he's going to throw some interceptions when he has a bad offensive line and has to throw a ton in an effort to play catch up.
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And hasn't the running game to make the opposition's D pay for sitting back and doubling Calvin.
This will only get worse the rest of the season if Pettigrew's out, as it appears he will be. I'm not sure Smith is the starting RB next year.
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11-27-2009, 01:49 PM
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No way Stanton should be starting ahead of Stafford.
But based on the in your face pre-game conversation between Mayhew and Culpepper I think its possible that Stanton's chances of being on the roster next fall just jumped.
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That will be interesting. Doesn't Stanton's rookie contract expire this year? That means the Lions will have to put up as much money as they think he's worth to hang onto him.
Wonder if he's a Lion next year.
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11-27-2009, 02:06 PM
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That will be interesting. Doesn't Stanton's rookie contract expire this year? That means the Lions will have to put up as much money as they think he's worth to hang onto him.
Wonder if he's a Lion next year.
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If he's willing to take a pay cut
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11-27-2009, 02:09 PM
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Exactly. Wonder if there's anyone out there (Tampa Bay? Denver? hell, Chicago or Minnesota?) looking for a backup and willing to invest more in Drew than the Lions are.
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11-27-2009, 02:10 PM
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After watching Stafford yesterday this became very apparent. Why the Lions are so stubborn is beyond me. Their offense is stale, and their innovation is lacking.
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You're an idiot.
Extremely short rant over.
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