Probably my last 9/11 post

[Fletch]

Originally Posted by roundhead

Probably my last 9/11 post

You really should have stuck to this.

[lars]

Originally Posted by roundhead

the fact is,tower two,which was dealt a glancing blow by the plane,fell in only 56 minutes..

Now you're just flat out lying. I has been shown here on this thread. That it was NOT A GLANCING BLOW!

As for your melting steel idea. Fletch posted a nice explaination. See the the link for all the details. It is long. But here is the jist. http://www.debunking911.com/moltensteel.htm

Conspiracy sites like to bring up molten steel found 6 weeks after the buildings fell to suggest a bomb must have created the effect. The explanation doesn't go into the amount of explosive material needed because it would be an absurd amount. There is another explanation which is more plausible.
Before reading the below, it might be a good idea for the novice to read Mark Ferran's explanation on how "Iron Burns!!!"

Oxidation of iron by air is not the only EXOTHERMIC reaction of iron (= structural steel which is about 98 % Fe, 1 % Mn, 0.2 % C, 0.2 % Si.....). There is at least one additional reaction of iron with the capability of keeping the rubble pile hot and cooking!

The reaction between IRON AND STEAM is also very EXOTHERMIC and fast at temperatures above 400 deg C. This reaction produces Fe3O4 AND HYDROGEN. It is the classic example of a REVERSIBLE REACTION studied in Chemistry labs at high school.

Case closed on the melting steel theory.

[ChiSpartan1620]

Outer columns support the vertical load.

Inner core concrete or steel is not relevant.

Many outer columns were taken out as well as damaged floor diaphragms laterally supporting columns.

Building still stands because of good design. (Thanks Les )

Longer unsupported columns + heat = less stiff structure = column buckling.

This is simple.

[lars]

Roundhead.

Now that we have shown you the following:
1) how the building fell

2) where the 'red hot' steel came from

3) refuted the claim the WTC was designed to handle the impact and the fire from a 707 fully loaded with fuel, flying at 500mph

4) and shown that WTC was NOT a glancing blow.

Please go back to earlier in the thread and tell us where the 2 plane loads of people who never flew are hiding? And why they are agreeing to pretend to be dead and leaving their families forever?

You never answered this.

[daryl kanary '84]

Originally Posted by lars

Roundhead.

Now that we have shown you the following:
1) how the building fell

2) where the 'red hot' steel came from

3) refuted the claim the WTC was designed to handle the impact and the fire from a 707 fully loaded with fuel, flying at 500mph

4) and shown that WTC was NOT a glancing blow.

Please go back to earlier in the thread and tell us where the 2 plane loads of people who never flew are hiding? And why they are agreeing to pretend to be dead and leaving their families forever?

You never answered this.

1. it didn't fall, David Copperfield made the illusion that it fell. it is actually still there..

2. it is not actually steel, it is a compound unknown to us earthlings that the Roswell
aliens gave to the CIA to help fabricate this whole thing.

3. :-P

4. remember, there was no plane and the tower is still there, so what thousands of people saw was actually from a video-game broadcast over all the news stations and reflected off of the mirrors that copperfield put up.

5. they are all hanging out with Elvis in Kalamazoo

[SBSpartan]

Originally Posted by ChiSpartan1620

Outer columns support the vertical load.

Inner core concrete or steel is not relevant.

Many outer columns were taken out as well as damaged floor diaphragms laterally supporting columns.

Building still stands because of good design. (Thanks Les )

Longer unsupported columns + heat = less stiff structure = column buckling.

This is simple.

There is that expensive Cardinal S showing its worth.

[Dell Griffith]

Originally Posted by roundhead

the fact is,tower two,which was dealt a glancing blow by the plane,fell in only 56 minutes..

Here's your freaking "glancing blow."




In all due respect, how stupid are you? And why would you expect everyone else to be just as stupid?

[Donnyrotten]

Originally Posted by Dell Griffith

Here's your freaking "glancing blow."




In all due respect, how stupid are you? And why would you expect everyone else to be just as stupid?

ya own me...i should have said,it hit on the corner of the building,unlike the first tower,where it hit head on

[Z.Cavaricci]

Originally Posted by roundhead

ya own me...i should have said,it hit on the corner of the building,unlike the first tower,where it hit head on

Watch the video again....it hit the corner ??

[Z.Cavaricci]

Another view

With thousands of people focused on live television images of the burning north tower, the second hijacked plane, United Airlines Flight 175, hits the south tower just after 9 a.m.

[Donnyrotten]

Originally Posted by Z.Cavaricci

Another view

With thousands of people focused on live television images of the burning north tower, the second hijacked plane, United Airlines Flight 175, hits the south tower just after 9 a.m.

yes it hit the corner.not the center,unlike the first tower...thats why so much fuel burned up outside from this plane...from what i understand,and i could be wrong,and do admit it,it has been said it would have dealt only a glancing blow to the core of the building as it hit at an angle and not head on,i am not saying it didnt hit it,just not in the center like the first plane

[Donnyrotten]

Originally Posted by lars

Roundhead.

Now that we have shown you the following:
1) how the building fell

2) where the 'red hot' steel came from

3) refuted the claim the WTC was designed to handle the impact and the fire from a 707 fully loaded with fuel, flying at 500mph

4) and shown that WTC was NOT a glancing blow.

Please go back to earlier in the thread and tell us where the 2 plane loads of people who never flew are hiding? And why they are agreeing to pretend to be dead and leaving their families forever?


none of us know who if anybody was on those planes..only a very few of the relatives have spoken on the record thus far,compared to tower victims

the fact is...american has yet to this day released an "official"account of passengers,kinda wierd,5 years later...this is generally done right away...this point is well described in my first post of the 2 planes thread..rather than repost it..just read it....it breaks all the planes and passenger stuff down pretty thoroughly.

You never answered this.

[lars]

Post #44 lists the names of AA flight 77. Are those not real? What about the families of those people who believe their family members died.

Can you address this?

[Dell Griffith]

Originally Posted by roundhead

ya own me...i should have said,it hit on the corner of the building,unlike the first tower,where it hit head on

As if it makes a difference. Corner or head on.

Thanks for the engineering lesson.

[Dell Griffith]

Originally Posted by roundhead

yes it hit the corner.not the center,unlike the first tower..

No.... You were right the first time. "A glancing blow"


Seriously, there have been some incredibly stupid things posted on this board in the last 10 years, but your "glancing blow" comment has got to be in the top 10.

Congratulations.

[DeHannen]

Originally Posted by Z.Cavaricci

Watch the video again....it hit the corner ??

Holy Cow Do you see that? That's thermite on the nose of the plane. The military must have strap a couple of cases of thermite on the nose of the plane and ignited it just as the plane hit the WTC. Damn those guys are good.

[Fletch]

Round's word is worthless.

[Donnyrotten]

Originally Posted by Long Duk Dong

Round's word is worthless.

says who..an internet geek like you ...your opinion on anything has zero weight with me...zilch,zero

[Dr. Strangelove]

Originally Posted by Donnyrotten

Anyone on here who continues to believe that building 7 fell due to fire damage(and possibly some damage from debris)in 6.2 seconds(virtually free fall speed)in perfect controlled demolition fashion.and not a word of it in our nations accounting of that day"The 9/11 Commision Report"are well beyond hope,(if they have seen video of the collapse)..and probably wont be convinced even if Cheney is on the gallows for it

thats all...

Ah Roundhead if only this had been true......

[Statepug]

Originally Posted by Dr. Strangelove

Ah Roundhead if only this had been true......

Can you please merge this thread with the other 5 million threads roundchi has started?

But then again maybe not, just sticky it instead.

[Dr. Strangelove]

Originally Posted by Statepug

Can you please merge this thread with the other 5 million threads roundchi has started?

But then again maybe not, just sticky it instead.

Which one should I throw it into?

tOfficial WTC7 Conspiracy Theory Thread ( 1 2 3 4 5 ... Last Page)

tOfficial Twin Towers Conspiracy Theory Thread( 1 2 3 4 5 ... Last Page)

tOfficial 9/11 Pentagon Conspiracy Theory Thread( 1 2 3 4 5 ... Last Page)

[Statepug]

They all say pretty much the same thing so it really wouldn't matter one way or another, but the twin towers would one should work.