Probably my last 9/11 post

[Donnyrotten]

Anyone on here who continues to believe that building 7 fell due to fire damage(and possibly some damage from debris)in 6.2 seconds(virtually free fall speed)in perfect controlled demolition fashion.and not a word of it in our nations accounting of that day"The 9/11 Commision Report"are well beyond hope,(if they have seen video of the collapse)..and probably wont be convinced even if Cheney is on the gallows for it

thats all...

[RQA]

This man was photographed holding the actual plans for the government destruction of the WTC. The CIA refuses to release his name.

[thephoneman]

Originally Posted by RQA

This man was photographed holding the actual plans for the government destruction of the WTC. The CIA refuses to release his name.

Another little known fact is that this is the worst photoshopped (I dont know what they called photoshopping in 1963) photo EVER

[RQA]

Originally Posted by thephoneman

Another little known fact is that this is the worst photoshopped (I dont know what they called photoshopping in 1963) photo EVER

A topic for a different thread BUT your allegation is very well known and has as much credibility as roundhead's allegations about 9/11.

[Fletch]

Sadly, I think the word "probably" is the key word in the thread title.

[Bullwrinkle]

Originally Posted by roundhead

Anyone on here who continues to believe that building 7 fell due to fire damage(and possibly some damage from debris)in 6.2 seconds(virtually free fall speed)in perfect controlled demolition fashion.and not a word of it in our nations accounting of that day"The 9/11 Commision Report"are well beyond hope,(if they have seen video of the collapse)..and probably wont be convinced even if Cheney is on the gallows for it

thats all...

I'm not really sure what happened. I'm going to have wait for the Frontline Documentary on the subject to tell me what to think about it.

[Dr. Strangelove]

Do people know how the demoliton crews blow up buildings?

They cut the I-Beams at critical points, remove non load bearing walls and drill into support columns to load their explosives. It takes a long time to do it right and even if you weren't doing it right it still takes time and is very noisy.

So how do you "The Government blew up WTC7 with charges" respond to that?

[arenateam]

Does it matter anyways? No one died from the collaspe, be it in from fire or demolition. It probably was going to be needed to be blown up anyways from damage. MOVE ON!

[wingfanjim]

Originally Posted by Dr. Strangelove

Do people know how the demoliton crews blow up buildings?

They cut the I-Beams at critical points, remove non load bearing walls and drill into support columns to load their explosives. It takes a long time to do it right and even if you weren't doing it right it still takes time and is very noisy.

So how do you "The Government blew up WTC7 with charges" respond to that?

Which is why my ONLY question about 9/11 has to do with WTC7. If the precision to do that sort of demolition is so precise, what are the odds of a textbook perfect collapse of a building occuring naturally from damage from the collapse of another building. The odds must be incredible.

[Fletch]

Originally Posted by wingfanjim

Which is why my ONLY question about 9/11 has to do with WTC7. If the precision to do that sort of demolition is so precise, what are the odds of a textbook perfect collapse of a building occuring naturally from damage from the collapse of another building. The odds must be incredible.

You should educate yourself on whether WTC 7 fell in a "texbook" fashion.

[Donnyrotten]

Originally Posted by Dr. Strangelove

Do people know how the demoliton crews blow up buildings?

They cut the I-Beams at critical points, remove non load bearing walls and drill into support columns to load their explosives. It takes a long time to do it right and even if you weren't doing it right it still takes time and is very noisy.

So how do you "The Government blew up WTC7 with charges" respond to that?

the towers both had documented power downs in the time preceding the strikes,which people working in the towers have said were highly unusual.as far as building 7,it was a building with restricted access,as it had Cia and fbi offices in it.along with being the command center building for the mayor...

figuring out how many charges to place and where to place them would likely take several months...actually placing them once a study was done of the blueprints could well have been done during the power downs the weekend before...looking at building 7 coming down,its pretty hard to come to any other rational conclusion,thus why the commision failed to adress what happened to it(or for that matter even acknowledge its existance),and why many people are unaware it fell that day,as mainstream media,after 9/11 have not shown it..Tucker Carlson made a point of not showing the collapse on MSNBC when he aired a interview with a 9/11 sceptic recently,even though it was to be part of the guests point,and was given to them to show

btw,i am not sure drilling is needed,from what i have heard shaped charges are placed around the beams

[Fletch]

Originally Posted by roundhead

the towers both had documented power downs in the time preceding the strikes,which people working in the towers have said were highly unusual.as far as building 7,it was a building with restricted access,as it had Cia and fbi offices in it.along with being the command center building for the mayor...

figuring out how many charges to place and where to place them would likely take several months...actually placing them once a study was done of the blueprints could well have been done during the power downs the weekend before...looking at building 7 coming down,its pretty hard to come to any other rational conclusion,thus why the commision failed to adress what happened to it(or for that matter even acknowledge its existance),and why many people are unaware it fell that day,as mainstream media,after 9/11 have not shown it..Tucker Carlson made a point of not showing the collapse on MSNBC when he aired a interview with a 9/11 sceptic recently,even though it was to be part of the guests point,and was given to them to air.

You didn't make it 24 hours.

[Donnyrotten]

Originally Posted by Fletch

You didn't make it 24 hours.

Fletch,lets just agree to disagree,and this post i started yesterday,its not a new one..................

at the end of the day,here is what this comes down to


either you believe the govt...who..to this day has done a universally poor job of trying to explain what happened to this building...or in the case of its 9/11 commision..ignored it(makes anything they say real believable doesnt it)


or do you listen to eye witness reports,saying there were only fires on three or four floors(which were allowed to burn during the day with zero firefighting efforts)...look at the 6.2 second collapse into about a 70 yard debris field,with little but powdered dust left of the building...and the finding of steel beams in its basements that were way hotter than anything in that building could of ever been from fire.....

maybe i am different than most...i use my brain and dont take sides....when i look at a building like that,and read about the minimal damage to it..the owner of it says it was "pulled"the city allowed it to burn,without doing anything about it...and i look at video of squibs going up the side of it right before it came down.....i find the arguement for implosion way more credible than any other theory thats been offered...but thats just me

[Donnyrotten]

Originally Posted by Fletch

You should educate yourself on whether WTC 7 fell in a "texbook" fashion.

yeah,watch the video of it...no matter ones opinion,the building came down in "textbook fashion"the kink in the cener from the core of the building being cut,and at freefall speed,with no hinderance whatsoever,and with basically nothing left of it.


you put your foot on your mouth there,Fletch..

[Fletch]

Originally Posted by roundhead

yeah,watch the video of it...no matter ones opinion,the building came down in "textbook fashion"the kink in the cener from the core of the building being cut,and at freefall speed,with no hinderance whatsoever,and with basically nothing left of it.


you put your foot on your mouth there,Fletch..

Too bad no demolition experts agree with you.

[tuff bob]

Originally Posted by Fletch

Too bad no demolition experts agree with you.

they're all in on the conspiracy to destroy the WTC in a way it would make it acceptable to invade iraq

[Dr. Robert]

Originally Posted by roundhead

i use my brain and dont take sides

LIAR!!!

[Donnyrotten]

Dr Robert..i dont mind debating the merits of what happened that day...maybe i am wrong about what i think happened...and i hope and wish that i am

but every post there has been on the subject,right or wrong...you have brought absolutely nothing of weight to the debate..other than name calling,or personal attacks...as such,i find your comments worthless and having no merit whatsoever...do a little reading on the subject,and bring at least some interesting subject matter to your posts..in the meantime....butt out...you have proven to me you dont like any discussion about this matter,i believe you...


oh,and consider yourself fortunate you are slinging mud at me and calling me a liar behind your keyboard...i am 100% confidant you wouldnt do it to my face...and if that differs with your opinion of this point...feel free to pm me and set up a meeting with me...i can assure you i will show up

[Dr. Robert]

Originally Posted by roundhead

Dr Robert..i dont mind debating the merits of what happened that day...maybe i am wrong about what i think happened...and i hope and wish that i am

but every post there has been on the subject,right or wrong...you have brought absolutely nothing of weight to the debate..other than name calling,or personal attacks...as such,i find your comments worthless and having no merit whatsoever...do a little reading on the subject,and bring at least some interesting subject matter to your posts..in the meantime....butt out...you have proven to me you dont like any discussion about this matter,i believe you...


oh,and consider yourself fortunate you are slinging mud at me and calling me a liar behind your keyboard...i am 100% confidant you wouldnt do it to my face...and if that differs with your opinion of this point...feel free to pm me and set up a meeting with me...i can assure you i will show up

Well, you’re wrong again. If I saw you face-to-face, I would most certainly call you a clown, but that’s after I suggested a trip to the nearest mental institution. You want to meet at the airport, tough guy?

As for what I brought to these arguments, I attempted to inject logic in a few places – as I said in myriad paranoid threads, the proof was linked to by other posters.

What continues to astound me though, is your complete ignorance of all the evidence that’s been presented here which runs contrary to your beliefs. You continue to be proven wrong, and you completely ignore that proof, only to begin another thread with your delusional diatribes. THAT’S why I am now content to sit here, watch you write stupid things, and make fun of you for it.

[Donnyrotten]

Originally Posted by Fletch

Too bad no demolition experts agree with you.

i quoted Romero earlier..didnt you read it...

[Donnyrotten]

Originally Posted by Dr. Robert

Well, you’re wrong again. If I saw you face-to-face, I would most certainly call you a clown, but that’s after I suggested a trip to the nearest mental institution. You want to meet at the airport, tough guy?

As for what I brought to these arguments, I attempted to inject logic in a few places – as I said in myriad paranoid threads, the proof was linked to by other posters.

What continues to astound me though, is your complete ignorance of all the evidence that’s been presented here which runs contrary to your beliefs. You continue to be proven wrong, and you completely ignore that proof, only to begin another thread with your delusional diatribes. THAT’S why I am now content to sit here, watch you write stupid things, and make fun of you for it.

if one reads all the "proof"thats been posted on these threads,one would ask for an independant investigation.....all i ask is the govt come clean...show the pentagon tapes and such..it makes it hard to believe anybody who does all they can to discourage any fair investigation into something so important hard to believe...and as you refuted,and i correctly posted with a link to the polls...70 m