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Old 07-25-2005, 09:03 PM   #51 (permalink)
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Old 07-25-2005, 11:58 PM   #52 (permalink)
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Here is an updated summary of government complicity in the 9/11 attacks.

(1) Immediately after Sept. 11 there was much coverage in the news about large numbers of "put" options on stocks of companies directly affected by the Sept. 11 attacks. We have never been told who made the trades, including $2.5 million in options on United Airlines that went unclaimed.
http://tinyurl.com/r3g9e
http://tinyurl.com/rpcen
http://www.mediamonitors.net/mosaddeq36.html
"This could very well be insider trading at the worst, most horrific, most evil use you've ever seen in your entire life... This would be one of the most extraordinary coincidences in the history of mankind if it was a coincidence," said Dylan Ratigan of Bloomberg Business News, interviewed on Good Morning Texas on Sept. 20.
"I saw put-call numbers higher than I've ever seen in 10 years of following the markets, particularly the options markets,' said John Kinnucan, principal of Broadband Research, as quoted in the San Francisco Chronicle," reported the Montreal Gazette on Sept. 19.
http://www.fromthewilderness.com/fre...ondi_rice.html

This information can be discovered in a click of a button by the FBI or SEC. It has been revealed that the United Airlines trades were made through a firm once run by former CIA executive director Buzzy Krongard. Krongard says we would be better off if bin Laden is not caught. Hmmmm.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...1539%2C00.html

(2) It has been confirmed by the FBI that the head of Pakistani intelligence, Mahmoud Ahmad, wired Mohammed Atta $100,000 before the attacks. Ahmad ate breakfast on Capitol Hill on the morning of 9/11 with the heads of the Senate and House intelligence committees.
This material is covered late in the movie 9/11 Press For Truth.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...99104255077250

Also see.
http://tinyurl.com/o4j2b
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/c...ow?msid=107432
The 9/11 Commission claims the financing of the attacks is of "no practical significance."
http://www.911truth.org/article.php?...04081212004979
We're told that the guy that Ahmad had carry out the wire transfer, Omar Saeed, is one of the people who killed Wall Street journalist Daniel Pearl. My, that's a coincidence.
The 9/11 Commission did not touch the issue in their report. When asked about it directly during July 2005 public hearings, the 9/11 Commission Vice Chair and other panel members avoid answering the question (listen at the 1 hour 50 minute mark).
rtsp://cspanrm.fplive.net/cspan/project/iraq/iraq080205_project.rm
http://tinyurl.com/bte4r

Given this information, it's no surprise that news has surfaced recently Pakistan bought its way out of the 9/11 Commission Report.
http://tinyurl.com/gko8x
http://www.911truth.org/article.php?...60313080211207

(3) WTC 7 was not struck by an aircraft at all, and yet it collapsed perfectly within its own footprint late in the day on 9/11. The 9/11 Commission didn't discuss it in their report. FEMA said the reason for the collapse is "unknown at this time." It is the first structure of its kind in the world to collapse in such fashion from an alleged fire. Its tenants included the Internal Revenue Service, the Secret Service, the Securities and Exchange Commission, the Mayor's office of Emergency Management and the CIA's New York Station. All of the evidence points to a collapse via controlled demolition. In fact, the owner of the buildings indicated in a PBS documentary about the 9/11 events that a decision was made to "pull" the building. So why does the FEMA report say it came down because of fire? If it was brought down by demolition, who had the time and inclination during the chaotic day of 9/11 to go in and wire up the building for demolition? If it was demolished, it must have been wired before 9/11. It doesn't make any sense.
Why should you care about WTC 7?
http://digitalstyledesigns.com/pdf%20files/WTC7half.pdf
I'm no expert, but this looks like a controlled demolition to me.

http://www.wtc7.net/videos.html
http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/atta....html#leveling
Also see.
http://70.84.33.210/%7Einfomedi/vide...alpreview2.wmv

(4) We still have never seen a clear video of a plane hitting the Pentagon, even though it is one of the most guarded facilities in the world. Still photos which purport to show the collision were released only after Thierry Meyssan wrote his book, The Frightening Fraud, a bestseller in France about how a commercial plane did not hit the Pentagon. This link summarizes his research.
http://www.asile.org/citoyens/numero...erreurs_en.htm
The government then released videos on May 16, 2006 of the alleged impact.
http://911research.wtc7.net/essays/pentagon/video.html
The most important issue here is that we're to believe that Hani Hanjour, who couldn't fly a Cessna in August 2001, pulled off the miracle feat of sliding the plane into the Pentagon by flying 530 mph just a few feet off of the ground (is this physically possible?) into the civilian portion of the building with the skill of a fighter pilot? Could they really identify all but one of the passengers by DNA if most of the plane vaporized? How could one of the most protected buildings in the world get hit when the second trade center impact happened 35 minutes earlier? Where was the air defense from the nearby Air Force base? Some of this is borderline unbelievable.
These articles argue that it is preposterous to think that amateur pilots could have flown these planes, especially the Pentagon flight.
http://physics911.net/sagadevan.htm
http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publ...icle_652.shtml
The theory that the planes were controlled remotely has some merit considering the Raytheon/Zakheim links.
http://tinyurl.com/7ubcr
Photos and videos of the Pentagon flight were taken but never released. Videos were confiscated immediately from nearby businesses.
http://justicefor911.org/iiA1_AirDefense_111904.php
How did officials know where to go immediately to confiscate the video? Here is the response of a 9/11 Commissioner regarding photos. What are they hiding?
I pointed out to Dr. Zelikow that one of many reasons this conspiracy talk about 9/11 continues is that there have been no photos released of the Boeing 757 wreckage inside the Pentagon, or outside either, as we normally see after a civilian plane crash. I asked if he has seen photos that show the wreckage of the 757. He said, yes, they have photos, and that he has seen them, and he also said that there are eyewitness reports from a dozen or so rescue workers at the Pentagon who confirm seeing those airplane parts in the wreckage. Well, I asked, can I or some other ordinary person see these photos? He said no. I asked if I could see the rescue worker's statements, and he said no. I told him I had seen photos of the exterior Pentagon wall before it collapsed, and the hole where the plane entered appeared to be only about 20 feet in diameter, with unbroken window frames on either side of it where the wings and engines would have hit. This hole was much too small for a 757 to enter, and no wreckage of the plane is shown on the ground outside. He said those photos might have been "adjusted" in scale by someone to give the wrong impression. I asked if I or anyone else could see the National Transportation Safety Board report about the crash, or even about the 757 being picked up by radar as it approached Washington, and he said no.
http://www.911truth.org/article.php?...50611092627689
The White House was tracking this object as it approached. Was this a stand-down order to let whatever it was hit the Pentagon?
Mineta responds to an opening question by Commissioner Hamilton about the events in the PEOC and an alleged shoot down order. He describes a conversation between Cheney and a young man:
Mineta: "During the time that the airplane was coming into the Pentagon, there was a young man who would come in and say to the Vice President...the plane is 50 miles out...the plane is 30 miles out....and when it got down to the plane is 10 miles out, the young man also said to the vice president "do the orders still stand?" And the Vice President turned and whipped his neck around and said "Of course the orders still stand, have you heard anything to the contrary!??"
http://www.911truth.org/article.php?...50724164122860
Did military exercises facilitate the attack on the Pentagon?
http://www.911truth.org/article.php?...60718232126585
Please note that some trustworthy researchers say that the Pentagon no plane theory is disinformation and/or misinformation.
http://www.oilempire.us/pentagon.html
http://www.oilempire.us/pentagon-truth.html
Jim Hoffman is somewhat on the fence as to what happened.
http://911research.wtc7.net/essays/pentagontrap.html
http://911research.wtc7.net/essays/pentagon/index.html
This is a commonly cited debunking of the Pentagon conspiracy theories.
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/pages/..._evidence.html
This site seems to provide the most balanced Pentagon analysis.
http://www.pentagonresearch.com/conclusions.html

(5) Spiking of the investigations of the hijackers. Mike Ruppert's book, Crossing the Rubicon, shows that several FBI agents in two offices (Minneapolis and Phoenix) as well as other individuals (most notably Robert Wright) did a great job conducting investigations, writing memos and requesting to further investigate some of the alleged hijackers because they thought for certain that these guys were in training to crash planes. At most every turn, the agents were ignored, smeared or threatened when they tried to speak out. But for one exception (Colleen Rowley), all of their memos have been classified in the interest of national security and won't be released. Here is Colleen Rowley's memo.
I know I shouldn't be flippant about this, but jokes were actually made that the key FBIHQ personnel had to be spies or moles, like Robert Hansen, who were actually working for Osama Bin Laden to have so undercut Minneapolis' effort.
http://www.time.com/time/covers/1101020603/memo.html
Some of these FBI agents got so upset their superiors wouldn't listen to them that they actually called up this guy who prosecuted Bill Clinton (David Schippers) to get through to the administration because they thought Schippers had clout with the administration. John Ashcroft ignored Schippers' calls.
http://www.mediamonitors.net/mosaddeq36.html
There is also the infamous Presidential Daily Briefing "Bin Ladin Determined to Strike in US."
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4710772
Oh yeah, I guess the 50 some odd FAA warnings weren't enough, either.
The Federal Aviation Administration received repeated warnings in the months prior to Sept. 11, 2001, about al-Qaida and its desire to attack airlines, according to a previously undisclosed report by the commission that investigated the terror attacks. The report by the Sept. 11 commission detailed 52 such warnings given to FAA leaders from April to Sept. 10, 2001, about the radical Islamic terrorist group and its leader, Osama bin Laden.
http://www.truthout.org/cgi-bin/artm...ew.cgi/37/8916

(6) Several international warnings came in ahead of time. Most notably, after the attacks, Vladimir Putin said on MSNBC that in August 2001, he ordered Russian intelligence to warn the U.S. government of imminent attacks.
http://tinyurl.com/c3y7t
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/e...ytriedtowarnus
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/e...ssayairdefense
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,53065,00.html

(7) The administration fought the creation of a 9/11 Commission.
http://tinyurl.com/6sj38
Why? Wouldn't you want to get to this bottom of this tragedy? Don't forget that they also tried to get Henry Kissinger to head the investigation.

(8) Air defense. There were procedures in place up to June 2001 to easily deal with intercept of civilian planes within a few minutes. These standard procedures were activated on 67 occasions in the period from September 2000 to June 2001.
http://justicefor911.org/iiA1_AirDefense_111904.php
For some reason, NORAD scramble procedures were transferred to Donald Rumsfeld in June of 2001. By most accounts, Rumsfeld was missing in action while the planes were being hijacked. Who was in charge?
http://justicefor911.org/iiA2_ChainofCommand_111904.php
The 9/11 Commission says that NORAD apparently lied to the point where the Commission recommended referring the matter to the Justice Department.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...080101300.html
An August 2006 Vanity Fair article confirms that only four fighters were available to cover 500,000 square miles of airspace. The Vanity Fair article acknowledges one of several wargames.
http://www.vanityfair.com/features/general/060801fege01

(9) The hijackers were most likely patsies. Note that Mohammed Atta didn't spend much of his time with Muslims. He regularly did coke, drank and dated a stripper. Read Daniel Hopsicker's "Welcome to Terrorland" and hear it from his stripper girlfriend right here. Does this sound like a guy who wanted to meet Allah? The point here is that what we're told about a few of the hijackers is nonsense and it is likely that Atta and some other alleged hijackers were into things like running drugs or were otherwise intelligence assets who may have thought that they were carrying out something entirely different than what transpired.
http://tinyurl.com/bblcu
Top Ten Things You Never Knew About Mohammed Atta.
http://tinyurl.com/d7lgs
What was Mohamed Atta really doing in Florida?
HOPSICKER: What I found in Florida was that the government story about the terrorist conspiracy’s activities before September 11th is not just an error, it is a lie. The time line is wrong. The FBI’s timeline is wrong. Everything they are doing is designed to protect an operation that was under way in southwest Florida that trained, between 1999 and September 2001, literally hundreds of Arabs to fly. In other words, in 1998, there were two or three Arabs learning how to fly, by the end of ‘99 it was flying hundreds of them. So obviously there was a covert operation going on; the flight school where Mohamed Atta went to, Huffman Aviation in Florida is not a business and was not operating like a business. So it was, and is, something else.

http://tinyurl.com/7rxd6
Here is some more.
Nafeez Ahmed gave an excellent presentation on the fact that Mohammad Atta and the Hamburg cell of terrorists did not exhibit the behavior of radical Islamic fundamentalists. Rather there were multiple reports of them drinking heavily, using cocaine, gambling in Las Vegas, and frequenting strip clubs. None of this accords with the behavior of genuine Islamists, allied with Al Qaeda, who believe in the strictest interpretation of the Koran as to how a Muslim should live his life.
http://tinyurl.com/8b6nr
Webster Tarpley on Synthetic Terror - Moles, Patsies, and Professional Killers.
http://tinyurl.com/apel5
Al Cokeda = Iran Contra II. How the 9/11 flight schools were being used for narcotics trafficking to finance black operations like 9/11 which was covered up by labeling the drug dealers, terrorists (scroll down).
http://tinyurl.com/kxus7

(10) Omission Commission. Read David Ray Griffin's book "The 9/11 Commission Report: Omissions and Distortions."
The 571 page lie.
http://www.911truth.org/article.php?...50523112738404
Listen to David Ray Griffin tear up the commission right here (either the Madison or Santa Rosa lecture is good for that purpose).
http://www.911busters.com/911_new_vi...ons/index.html
Also see.
http://www.ny911truth.org/articles/b..._omissions.htm

(11) Why did John Ashcroft stop flying commercial planes before 9/11? What did he know?
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2001/...in303601.shtml
Also, the San Francisco Chronicle reported one day after the attacks that Mayor Willie Brown received a phone call eight hours before the hijackings from what he described as his air security staff, warning him not to travel by air.
http://www.mediamonitors.net/mosaddeq36.html

(12) Firefighters insist that 3 of the 4 WTC crash black boxes were found, while the government denies it.
Two men who worked extensively in the wreckage of the World Trade Center claim they helped federal agents find three of the four "black boxes" from the jetliners that struck the towers on 9/11 - contradicting the official account.
Both the independent 9/11 Commission and federal authorities insist that none of the four devices - a cockpit voice recorder (CVR) and flight data recorder (FDR) from the two planes - was ever found. But New York City Firefighter Nicholas DeMasi has written in a book self-published by Ground Zero workers that he took federal agents on an all-terrain vehicle in October 2001 and located three of the four. His account is backed by a well-known Ground Zero volunteer.
http://www.philly.com/mld/dailynews/...0033802.htm?1c
A 9-11 rescue worker recently came forward to say he was told by FBI agents to “keep my mouth shut” about one of the “black boxes” a fellow firefighter helped locate at ground zero, contradicting the official story that none of the flight and cockpit data recorders were ever recovered in the wreckage of the World Trade Center (WTC) towers.
Honorary firefighter Mike Bellone claims he was approached by unknown bureau agents a short time after he and his partner, Nicholas DeMasi, a retired New York firefighter, found three of the four “black boxes” among the WTC rubble before January 2002.
http://www.911citizenswatch.org/modu...rticle&sid=430
Counterpunch has learned that the FBI has them.
http://tinyurl.com/du8qg

Additionally, a tape of interviews with air traffic controllers was destroyed.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp...&notFound=true

(13) Hijackers alive and/or identity issues.
The wacky, unreliable fringe news media outlet known as BBC has reported that several of the alleged hijackers are alive.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/1559151.stm
http://911research.wtc7.net/disinfo/...dentities.html
It appears that several of the hijackers may have had doubles and/or identities were stolen.
http://tinyurl.com/lhcrj

(14) GWB's brother, Marvin, was involved in World Trade Center security, and his contract expired on 9/11. Weird.
http://70.84.33.210/%7Einfomedi/vide...alpreview2.wmv
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/911security.html
http://www.commondreams.org/views03/0204-06.htm

(15) Whistleblowers. Listen to the women! They are brilliant and credible.
This interview is a must-read:"Ground Zero 911, Blueprint For Terror, Part Two". Indira Singh, who was a software guru for JP Morgan, learned that a company that she was supposed to work with on a project, PTech, funds terrorist operations and was likely involved in facilitating the 9/11 attacks. PTech installs software throughout the U.S. government and corporate America. When Singh tried to warn government officials and corporate superiors that they are doing business with terrorists, they told her that she should be killed for learning this information.
http://tinyurl.com/bwrls
Here is another article which covers Indira Singh's story.
http://www.fromthewilderness.com/fre...tech_pt1.shtml
Former FBI translator Sibel Edmonds has a gag order on her to not talk about 9/11 events. She alleges that several high profile Americans are linked to the crime.
http://tinyurl.com/3hxj6
http://www.911truth.org/article.php?...05042520431369
http://www.911truth.org/article.php?...05062112075570

(16) Who was coordinating the multiple war games exercises on the morning of 9/11 (some of which included practicing for events such as...amazing coincidence...terrorist hijackings), which paralyzed fighter response and especially left D.C. wide open for attack? Why weren't fighters scrambled from the Air Force base a mere 10 miles or so from the Pentagon? Here is a detailed timeline of all of the exercises.
http://tinyurl.com/bdfsv
Mike Ruppert says the holy grail of 9/11 is in the wargames exercises. Here is an article about what his book says on that subject.
Mike Ruppert's book (citing a White House Press Release of 5/8/01) shows that, in the weeks before 9/11, "all counter-terror response planning and organization had been placed under the control of Dick Cheney" (337). Ruppert makes an initial if still circumstantial case, the strongest that I have seen so far, that "on the day of September 11th Richard Cheney was in full and complete control" of a properly functioning command system, which then deliberately let some of the hijacked planes hit their targets (591, cf. 411, 433). <64>
Ruppert argues that Cheney was in charge because of the multiple wargames running that day -- Vigilant Warrior, Vigilant Guardian, Northern Vigilance, an NRO exercise (name unknown), and Tripod II (a non-military biochemical attack exercise involving FEMA) -- that needed coordination from outside NORAD. <65> If he has no single source to nail this claim down, it is because of the extreme evasiveness shown by officials about that day, as for example:
When asked who was responsible for coordinating the multiple wargames running on the morning of September 11, 2001, General Ralph E. Eberhart, the man in charge of NORAD on the morning in question, replied "No Comment." <66>/div]
http://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/...ection.html#p5
Here is another summary.
http://tinyurl.com/byzhs
The significance of training exercises.
What is the significance of these training exercises? Is it just coincidence that at least three exercises were held in the year before 9/11, based around the scenario of a plane crashing into the Pentagon? If another aircraft-into-Pentagon exercise was scheduled for 9/11, is this just another even bigger coincidence?
Several writers have suggested a more sinister role played by training exercises that mirror real-world events.
http://www.911truth.org/article.php?...60718232126585
A 9/11 parable.
http://www.oilempire.us/911.html#parable
Here is more on the failure of air defenses that day.
http://justicefor911.org/iiA1_AirDefense_111904.php

(17) Able Danger.
In the first open hearing about the existence of an intelligence cell that may have identified the ringleaders of the Sept. 11 attacks a year before they happened, lawmakers sat back and let Rep. Curt Weldon (R-Pa.) run the show.

"How can we trivialize what these people have said?" Weldon asked Cambone. "It's about just giving the story. I am not a conspiracy theorist."
"I do not understand - it is frustrating to me," he added. "I am not going to stop here. President Nixon had to resign over a third-rate burglary," while 3,000 people died in the Sept. 11 attacks.
"Maybe neither administration [Clinton or Bush] wants to know what happened," Weldon said. "Maybe I am offending everyone."

http://www.thehill.com/thehill/expor...606/news8.html
DOBBS: We talk about one-tenth, we should also put that in some context, because the Able Danger Pentagon intelligence unit had 2.4 terabytes, 2,400 gigabytes, of information stored that they destroyed. The amount of information that they had accumulated was extraordinary by any measure.
LANCE: Equal to one quarter of the books in the Library of Congress.
http://tinyurl.com/pyhph
http://tinyurl.com/d69cd
http://tinyurl.com/9sbm5
http://tinyurl.com/bt3ka

(18) Who benefits? The think tank closest to the administration drafted a paper in September 2000, indicating that to meet their goal of global full spectrum dominance, "the process of transformation, even if it brings about revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event - like a New Pearl Harbor." Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, and Perle all were members of Project For A New American Century at various times, which is the organization that drafted the paper.
http://tinyurl.com/d3jpc
A similar, related theory is that the war on terror is a convenient cover for sequential war over the planet's last remaining oil reserves as world oil production goes into permanent, irreversible decline in the near future (known as "peak oil").
By definition, world hydrocarbon (oil and gas) production peaks when half the planet's reserves have been used up. After that point, every barrel of oil will be harder to find, more expensive to obtain, and more valuable to whoever controls it. Many of the world's foremost experts place that peak between 2000 and 2007.
We live in a global economic system based on endless growth, and that growth is only possible with endless hydrocarbons to burn. Demand for oil and gas is increasing at staggering rates; after peak, there will be demand that simply cannot be met, and energy prices will rise inexorably.
http://www.fromthewilderness.com/fre...ify_case.shtml
Also see the Oil Empire website.
http://www.oilempire.us/
Here is a decent summary of the financial reasons for the attacks.
http://tinyurl.com/7f885

Before you dismiss this as crazy, keep in mind that the victims' families are asking all of these same questions.
Family Steering Committee Unanswered Questions
http://tinyurl.com/nm5q8
http://www.septembereleventh.org/
http://www.911citizenswatch.org/
http://www.911truth.org/
http://www.ny911truth.org/
http://www.reopen911.org

Here is a solid introduction regarding ungrounded theories and disinformation within the 9/11 Truth movement.
http://www.911truth.org/article.php?...40810075752147

Great 9/11 videos.
9/11 Loose Change Second Edition.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...+Change+Re-Cut

9/11 Press For Truth.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...99104255077250

Everybody's Gotta Learn Sometime.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...66181300641663

http://www.911podcasts.com/display.php?vid=92
What's The Truth - How Indeed Did the Towers Collapse?
http://tinyurl.com/hmyvz
http://www.911podcasts.com/display.php?vid=95
9/11: The Myth and The Reality.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...77066688213413

Who Killed John O'Neill?
http://www.whokilledjohnoneill.com/

9/11 Mysteries.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...83512003&hl=en

Improbable Collapse.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...73566596731782

9/11 Revisited.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...09939&q=9%2F11

Steven Jones lecture at Utah Valley State College.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...+Jones+lecture

Painful Deceptions. Disclaimer: the guy who developed this movie became a lunatic after making this video.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...ful+deceptions

9/11 Eyewitness.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...461603&pl=true

http://tinyurl.com/egcdt

This is a good movie on false flag terrorism: Terrorstorm.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...rorstorm&hl=en


Reasons to doubt the official story.
The Coincidence Theorist's Guide To 9/11.
http://rigorousintuition.blogspot.co...de-to-911.html
Surely The "Hand of Allah."

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/handofallah.php
September Eleventh and the Bush Administration.
http://www.informationclearinghouse....rticle4582.htm
Blatant Omissions of the 9/11 Commission Report.

http://www.ny911truth.org/articles/b..._omissions.htm
http://www.911truth.org/article.php?...41221155307646
http://www.ny911truth.org/Simplifyin...iles/frame.htm
http://www.mediamonitors.net/mosaddeq36.html
http://www.wanttoknow.info/911coverup10pg
http://www.911truth.org/article.php?...50523112738404
http://tvnewslies.org/html/9_11_-_al..._you_need.html
http://reprehensor.gnn.tv/blogs/1088...ic_Terror_Pt_1
http://tinyurl.com/7f885
http://www.911research.wtc7.net/
http://killtown.911review.org/911smokingguns.html
http://www.oilempire.us/911.html
http://911review.com/
Here is a list of 9/11 "conspiracy wingnuts."
http://tinyurl.com/puyl6
A group of distinguished experts and scholars, including Robert M. Bowman, James H. Fetzer, Wayne Madsen, John McMurtry, Morgan Reynolds, and Andreas von Buelow, have concluded that senior government officials have covered up crucial facts about what really happened on 9/11.
http://www.prweb.com/releases/2006/2/prweb343577.htm
This is their website.
http://www.st911.org/

Here are some good 9/11 blogs and boards.
http://www.911blogger.com/
http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=14
http://www.loosechange911.com/
http://www.georgewashington.blogspot.com/
http://tinyurl.com/plka7
Here is a thorough compendium of information following up on the information in the movie "Who Killed John O'Neill?" It explains how CIA-related companies were involved in the attacks.
http://tinyurl.com/kxus7

* Postscript Notes.

* There are also some bizarre circumstances regarding Flight 93, which call the official story into question.
Several eyewitnesses insist that they saw a small military type plane flying in the vicinity of Flight 93 before it crashed. Debris was scattered miles from the crash site. Most notably, a portion of the engine was found over a mile away. The government says it bounced there. Was that plane shot down?
http://911research.wtc7.net/planes/a...t93/index.html
http://911research.wtc7.net/material...3/flight93.pdf
http://www.flight93crash.com/
Hunt the Boeing Shanksville.
http://killtown.911review.org/htb2.html
http://killtown.911review.org/flight93.html
http://www.team8plus.org/e107_plugin...ent.php?cat.15
http://tinyurl.com/bjfuu
http://tinyurl.com/bc675
The 9/11 Commission revised the FAA's hijacking notification time for this flight by 51 minutes!
http://tinyurl.com/55x37
9/11 whistleblower Indira Singh says that it is common knowledge in the intelligence community that the plane was shot down.
http://tinyurl.com/bwrls
Here is some discussion about the oddities of the phone calls and how they may have been fakes.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/CHO408B.html
http://911research.wtc7.net/planes/a...honecalls.html
http://tinyurl.com/9g637
http://tinyurl.com/7vgje
There are three reasons why this phone call is very special, different from all other call from Flight 93 and highly important.
http://tinyurl.com/cdcjh
Here are some examinations of the other calls.
http://tinyurl.com/86pu4
http://tinyurl.com/7e8cw
http://tinyurl.com/9qm4c
http://tinyurl.com/bbo5m

** Some people in the 9/11 truth movement are attempting to show that the main towers collapsed due to detonation, not the pancake theory. I believe that this is a waste of time because dozens of engineering and physics experts do support the pancake theory and to prove otherwise devolves into a contest of whose expert you believe. It is worth noting that several witnesses who escaped the buildings insist that they saw and heard bomb-like explosions going off before they evacuated. Further, all of the building material was sold as scrap to China without any forensic examination being done. If you wish to explore this avenue, here are some links.
Here is a paper by Steven Jones, the BYU professor speaking out about demolition.
http://www.physics.byu.edu/research/energy/htm7.html
Here are some articles on Steven Jones.
http://www.heraldextra.com/content/view/166195/
http://www.heraldextra.com/content/view/163875/
Judy Wood, Ph.D.
http://janedoe0911.tripod.com/BilliardBalls.html
Jim Hoffman.
http://911research.wtc7.net/talks/towers/slides.html
http://911research.wtc7.net/talks/index.html
http://911research.wtc7.net/essays/nist/index.html
Other links regarding demolition.
http://tinyurl.com/7amqy
http://bellaciao.org/en/article.php3?id_article=6625
This sorts out many of the demolition theory issues.
http://tinyurl.com/bpgpx

*** Anthrax attacks.
The attacks utilized military weapons grade anthrax that could only have been manufactured by a few different people. They can't figure out who did this? Yeah, right. Don't forget that letters were sent to high level Democrats and media members.
http://www.oilempire.us/anthrax.html
http://www.911review.org/Wiki/AnthraxAttacks.shtml
http://tinyurl.com/7f885
http://tinyurl.com/btjmq

9/11 Books.
http://tinyurl.com/7z8u3
http://tinyurl.com/bw5a8
http://tinyurl.com/cdoop
http://tinyurl.com/cossw
http://tinyurl.com/9tnoo
http://tinyurl.com/9wgre
http://tinyurl.com/mkpfy
http://tinyurl.com/feo2u
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Stop baiting me, DBE. Here is an updated summary of government complicity in the 9/11 attacks.

(1) Immediately after Sept. 11 there was much coverage in the news about large numbers of "put" options on stocks of companies directly affected by the Sept. 11 attacks. We have never been told who made the trades, including a $2.5 million put option on United Airlines that has gone unclaimed. This information can be discovered in a click of a button by the FBI or SEC. It has been revealed that the United Airlines trades were made through a firm once run by former CIA executive director Buzzy Krongard. Krongard says we would be better off if bin Laden is not caught. Hmmm.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...1539%2C00.html

(2) It has been confirmed by the FBI that the head of Pakistani intelligence, Mahmoud Ahmad, wired Mohammed Atta $100,000 before the attacks. Ahmad ate breakfast on Capitol Hill on the morning of 9/11 with the head of the Senate and House intelligence committees. Also, we're told that the guy that Ahmad had carry out the wire transfer, Omar Saeed, is one of the people who killed Wall Street journalist Daniel Pearl. My, that's a coincidence.

(3) WTC 7 was not struck by an aircraft at all, and yet it collapsed perfectly within its own footprint late in the day on 9/11. It is the first structure of its kind in the world to collapse in such fashion from an alleged fire. Its tenants included the Internal Revenue Service, the Secret Service, the Securities and Exchange Commission, the Mayor's office of Emergency Management and the CIA's New York Station. All of the evidence points to a collapse via controlled demolition. In fact, the owner of the buildings indicated in a PBS documentary about the 9/11 events that a decision was made to "pull" the building. So why does the FEMA report say it came down because of fire? If it was brought down by demolition, who had the time and inclination during the chaotic day of 9/11 to go in and wire up the building for demolition? If it was demolished, it must have been wired before 9/11. It doesn't make any sense.

I'm no expert, but this looks like a controlled demolition to me:
http://www.wtc7.net/videos.html
Also see:
http://70.84.33.210/%7Einfomedi/vide...alpreview2.wmv
and "Loose Change" downloads here:
http://www.question911.com/links.php


(4) We still have never seen any video of a plane hitting the Pentagon, even though it is one of the most guarded facilities in the world. Still photos which purport to show the collision were released only after Thierry Meyssan wrote his book, The Frightening Fraud, a bestseller in France about how a commercial plane did not hit the Pentagon. Also, ask a commercial pilot if they could pull off the maneuver of the flight path that Flight 77 took as it approached the Pentagon. They will likely tell you that it's doubtful at best. So, we're to believe that Hani Hanjour, who couldn't handle a Cessna in August 2001, pulled off the miracle feat of tucking the plane into the Pentagon by flying just a few feet off the ground into the civilian portion of the building with the skill of a fighter pilot? That is almost unbelievable.

Photos and videos of the Pentagon flight were taken but never released. Videos were confiscated immediately from at least three nearby businesses. How did officials know where to go immediately to confiscate the video? Here is the response of a 9/11 Commissioner regarding the videos. What are they hiding?

I pointed out to Dr. Zelikow that one of many reasons this conspiracy talk about 9/11 continues is that there have been no photos released of the Boeing 757 wreckage inside the Pentagon, or outside either, as we normally see after a civilian plane crash. I asked if he has seen photos that show the wreckage of the 757. He said, yes, they have photos, and that he has seen them, and he also said that there are eyewitness reports from a dozen or so rescue workers at the Pentagon who confirm seeing those airplane parts in the wreckage. Well, I asked, can I or some other ordinary person see these photos? He said no. I asked if I could see the rescue worker's statements, and he said no. I told him I had seen photos of the exterior Pentagon wall before it collapsed, and the hole where the plane entered appeared to be only about 20 feet in diameter, with unbroken window frames on either side of it where the wings and engines would have hit. This hole was much too small for a 757 to enter, and no wreckage of the plane is shown on the ground outside. He said those photos might have been "adjusted" in scale by someone to give the wrong impression. I asked if I or anyone else could see the National Transportation Safety Board report about the crash, or even about the 757 being picked up by radar as it approached Washington, and he said no.
http://www.911truth.org/article.php?...50611092627689

(5) Several eyewitnesses insist that they saw a small military type plane flying in the vicinity of Flight 93 before it crashed. Debris was scattered miles from the crash site. Most notably, a portion of the engine was found over a mile away. The government says it bounced there. Was that plane shot down? 9/11 whistleblower Indira Singh says that it is common knowledge in the intelligence community that the plane was shot down (that comment is at about the 30 minute point in this interview):
http://www.kpfa.org/cgi-bin/gen-mpeg...20-Wed1400.mp3)

(6) The most disturbing evidence in Mike Ruppert's book, Crossing the Rubicon, shows that several FBI agents in two offices (Minneapolis and Phoenix) as well as other individuals (most notably Robert Wright) did a great job conducting investigations, writing memos and requesting to further investigate some of the alleged hijackers because they thought for certain that these guys were in training to crash planes. At most every turn, the agents were ignored, smeared or threatened when they tried to speak out. But for one exception (Colleen Rowley), all of their memos have been classified in the interest of national security and won't be released. Here is Colleen Rowley's memo:
http://www.time.com/time/covers/1101020603/memo.html

Some of these FBI agents got so upset their superiors wouldn't listen to them that they actually called up this guy who prosecuted Bill Clinton (David Schippers) to get through to the administration because they thought Schippers had clout with the administration. John Ashcroft ignored Schippers' calls.

Oh yeah, I guess the 50 some odd FAA warnings weren't enough, either.
The Federal Aviation Administration received repeated warnings in the months prior to Sept. 11, 2001, about al-Qaida and its desire to attack airlines, according to a previously undisclosed report by the commission that investigated the terror attacks. The report by the Sept. 11 commission detailed 52 such warnings given to FAA leaders from April to Sept. 10, 2001, about the radical Islamic terrorist group and its leader, Osama bin Laden.
http://www.truthout.org/cgi-bin/artm...ew.cgi/37/8916


(7) Several international warnings came in ahead of time. Most notably, after the attacks, Vladimir Putin said on MSNBC that in August 2001, he ordered Russian intelligence to warn the U.S. government "in the strongest possible terms" of imminent attacks on airports and government buildings.
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/e...ytriedtowarnus
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/e...ssayairdefense
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,53065,00.html

(8 ) The administration fought the creation of a 9/11 Commission. Why? Wouldn't you want to get to this bottom of this tragedy?

(9) There were procedures in place up to June 2001 to easily deal with intercept of civilian planes within a couple of minutes. Payne Stewart's flight was a prime example. For some reason, NORAD scramble procedures were transferred to Donald Rumsfeld in June of 2001. By most accounts, Rumsfeld was missing in action while the planes were being hijacked. Who was in charge?

(10) Note that Mohammed Atta didn't spend time with Muslims. He regularly did coke, drank and dated a stripper. Buy Daniel Hopsicker's "Welcome to Terrorland" and hear it from his stripper girlfriend right here. Does this sound like a guy who wanted to meet Allah? The point here is that what we're told about a few of the hijackers is nonsense and it is likely that Atta and some other alleged hijackers were into things like running drugs or were otherwise intelligence assets who may have thought that they were carrying out something entirely different than what transpired.
http://www.911busters.com/video/IQ1_...CLIP_5.15_.asx


(11) Omission Commission. Read David Ray Griffin's book "The 9/11 Commission Report: Omissions and Distortions" and listen to Griffin tear up the commission right here -- it's the first video of the two.
http://www.911busters.com/911_new_vi...ons/index.html
Also see:
http://www.ny911truth.org/articles/b..._omissions.htm
http://www.911truth.org/article.php?...50523112738404

(12) Why did John Ashcroft stop flying commercial planes before 9/11? What did he know?

(13) Firefighters insist that 3 of the 4 WTC crash black boxes were found, while the government denies it.

Two men who worked extensively in the wreckage of the World Trade Center claim they helped federal agents find three of the four "black boxes" from the jetliners that struck the towers on 9/11 - contradicting the official account.
Both the independent 9/11 Commission and federal authorities insist that none of the four devices - a cockpit voice recorder (CVR) and flight data recorder (FDR) from the two planes - was ever found. But New York City Firefighter Nicholas DeMasi has written in a book self-published by Ground Zero workers that he took federal agents on an all-terrain vehicle in October 2001 and located three of the four. His account is backed by a well-known Ground Zero volunteer.

http://www.philly.com/mld/dailynews/...0033802.htm?1c

A 9-11 rescue worker recently came forward to say he was told by FBI agents to “keep my mouth shut” about one of the “black boxes” a fellow firefighter helped locate at ground zero, contradicting the official story that none of the flight and cockpit data recorders were ever recovered in the wreckage of the World Trade Center (WTC) towers.
Honorary firefighter Mike Bellone claims he was approached by unknown bureau agents a short time after he and his partner, Nicholas DeMasi, a retired New York firefighter, found three of the four “black boxes” among the WTC rubble before January 2002.

http://www.911citizenswatch.org/modu...rticle&sid=430

(14) The wacky, unreliable fringe news media outlet known as BBC has reported that several of the alleged hijackers are alive.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/1559151.stm

(15) GWB's brother, Marvin, was involved in World Trade Center security, and his contract expired on 9/11. Weird.
http://70.84.33.210/%7Einfomedi/vide...alpreview2.wmv
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/911security.html
http://www.commondreams.org/views03/0204-06.htm

(16) Whistleblowers. Listen to the women! They are brilliant and credible.
You must listen to this interview:"Ground Zero 911, Blueprint For Terror, Part Two". Indira Singh, who was a software guru for JP Morgan, learned that a company that she was supposed to work with on a project, PTech, funds terrorist operations and was likely involved in facilitating the 9/11 attacks. PTech installs software throughout the U.S. government and corporate America. When Singh tried to warn government officials and corporate superiors that they are doing business with terrorists, they told her that she should be killed for learning this information.
http://www.kpfa.org/cgi-bin/gen-mpeg...20-Wed1400.mp3
Here is an article which covers Indira Singh's story.
http://www.fromthewilderness.com/fre...tech_pt1.shtml

Former FBI translator Sibel Edmonds has a gag order on her not to talk about 9/11 events. She alleges that several high profile Americans are linked to the crime.
http://www.911truth.org/article.php?...05042520431369
http://www.911truth.org/article.php?...05062112075570

(17) Who was coordinating the multiple war games exercises on the morning of 9/11 (some of which included practicing for events such as...amazing coincidence...terrorist hijackings), which paralyzed fighter response and especially left D.C. wide open for attack? Why weren't fighters scrambled from the Air Force base a mere 10 miles or so from the Pentagon? Mike Ruppert says the holy grail of 9/11 is in the wargames exercises. Here is an article about what his book says on that subject:

Mike Ruppert's book (citing a White House Press Release of 5/8/01) shows that, in the weeks before 9/11, "all counter-terror response planning and organization had been placed under the control of Dick Cheney" (337). Ruppert makes an initial if still circumstantial case, the strongest that I have seen so far, that "on the day of September 11th Richard Cheney was in full and complete control" of a properly functioning command system, which then deliberately let some of the hijacked planes hit their targets (591, cf. 411, 433). <64>

Ruppert argues that Cheney was in charge because of the multiple wargames running that day -- Vigilant Warrior, Vigilant Guardian, Northern Vigilance, an NRO exercise (name unknown), and Tripod II (a non-military biochemical attack exercise involving FEMA) -- that needed coordination from outside NORAD. <65> If he has no single source to nail this claim down, it is because of the extreme evasiveness shown by officials about that day, as for example:

When asked who was responsible for coordinating the multiple wargames running on the morning of September 11, 2001, General Ralph E. Eberhart, the man in charge of NORAD on the morning in question, replied "No Comment." <66>/div]

http://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/...ection.html#p5

Here is another summary:
http://www.fromthewilderness.com/fre...ify_case.shtml

(18) Who benefits? The neocons drafted a paper in September 2000, indicating that to meet their goal of global full spectrum dominance, "the process of transformation, even if it brings about revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event - like a New Pearl Harbor." Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, and Perle all were members of Project For A New American Century at various times, which is the organization that drafted the paper.
http://www.newamericancentury.org/RebuildingAmericasDefenses.pdf#search='PNAC%20Rebuilding%20America%27s%20Defenses'

A similar, related theory is that the war on terror is a convenient cover for sequential war over the planet's last remaining oil reserves as world oil production goes into permanent, irreversible decline in the near future (known as "peak oil").

By definition, world hydrocarbon (oil and gas) production peaks when half the planet's reserves have been used up. After that point, every barrel of oil will be harder to find, more expensive to obtain, and more valuable to whoever controls it. Many of the world's foremost experts place that peak between 2000 and 2007.

We live in a global economic system based on endless growth, and that growth is only possible with endless hydrocarbons to burn. Demand for oil and gas is increasing at staggering rates; after peak, there will be demand that simply cannot be met, and energy prices will rise inexorably.

http://www.fromthewilderness.com/fre...ify_case.shtml


Before you dismiss this as crazy, keep in mind that the victims' families are asking all of these same questions.
http://www.septembereleventh.org/
http://www.911citizenswatch.org/
http://www.911truth.org/
http://www.ny911truth.org/
http://www.911blogger.com/
http://www.reopen911.org

Reasons to doubt the official story:
http://www.ny911truth.org/articles/b..._omissions.htm
http://www.911truth.org/article.php?...41221155307646
http://www.ny911truth.org/Simplifyin...iles/frame.htm
http://www.therandirhodesshow.com/me...howtopic=57489
http://www.911truth.org/article.php?...50523112738404
http://tinyurl.com/cossw
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