tOfficial Moon Landing Conspiracy Thread

[MidtownSpartan]

I just found out the other day that a friend of mine, whom I've known since I was a little kid, doesn't believe that we ever landed on the moon. Needless to say, I was shocked. I didn't know what to say to him. I knew there were a fair amount of people out there who thought this way (I believe there was a show on Fox a few years back that perpetuated this), but I had no idea that an intelligent, clear thinking individual such as my buddy could be so persuaded by spurious "facts". His explanations were completely inane, I countered several of them and 5 minutes on the internet would have answered the rest, I'm sure.

Anyway, I was curious how many people on this board believe the moon landing was a hoax. Anybody?

[I_Hate_wolverines]

You're right, everyone of FOX's arguments can be countered. They just take advantage of the average person's lack of physics knowledge.

[Solomon]

How can you doubt? Did you not see the movie Capricorn One . But in all seriousness this theory goes into the Bigfoot, Lochness, UFO'S, and Elvis faking his death categories.

[Izzomsu]

Originally Posted by MidtownSpartan

I just found out the other day that a friend of mine, whom I've known since I was a little kid, doesn't believe that we ever landed on the moon. Needless to say, I was shocked. I didn't know what to say to him. I knew there were a fair amount of people out there who thought this way (I believe there was a show on Fox a few years back that perpetuated this), but I had no idea that an intelligent, clear thinking individual such as my buddy could be so persuaded by spurious "facts". His explanations were completely inane, I countered several of them and 5 minutes on the internet would have answered the rest, I'm sure.

Anyway, I was curious how many people on this board believe the moon landing was a hoax. Anybody?

This is off topic..but are you going to be going to Blondies tonight to watch MSU Basketball?

[lil_dids]

National Geographic did a special a couple of years ago debunking a bunch of the 'proof we never went to the moon'. (The shadows in wrong directions, astronauts jumping, lack of stars, etc.) Showing that they could not be done on earth.

Of course, they must be in on it too!!

[SpartanDO]

Sure we did, read it in a newspaper somewhere

[MidtownSpartan]

So why are conspiracy theorists so adamant about it? This is really intriguing to me. I had always thought of conspiracy theorists as oddball loners, but now my perception of them has changed. I guess we all have a little bit of conspiracy nut in us, but we usually try to make sure that we are right before talking about it.

[MidtownSpartan]

Originally Posted by Izzomsu

This is off topic..but are you going to be going to Blondies tonight to watch MSU Basketball?

I might, unless I decide to sav some money and watch it at home or a friends place. Haven't decided yet.

[spartan_in_mpls]

Originally Posted by lil_dids

National Geographic did a special a couple of years ago debunking a bunch of the 'proof we never went to the moon'. (The shadows in wrong directions, astronauts jumping, lack of stars, etc.) Showing that they could not be done on earth.

Of course, they must be in on it too!!

This was on National Geographic earlier this week. I watched it and yes there are quite a few conspiracy theorists out there.

[SlingBlade]

Originally Posted by MidtownSpartan

I just found out the other day that a friend of mine, whom I've known since I was a little kid, doesn't believe that we ever landed on the moon. Needless to say, I was shocked. I didn't know what to say to him. I knew there were a fair amount of people out there who thought this way (I believe there was a show on Fox a few years back that perpetuated this), but I had no idea that an intelligent, clear thinking individual such as my buddy could be so persuaded by spurious "facts". His explanations were completely inane, I countered several of them and 5 minutes on the internet would have answered the rest, I'm sure.

Anyway, I was curious how many people on this board believe the moon landing was a hoax. Anybody?

We'd have a difficult time landing on the moon today. That said, anyone that thinks the moon landing is a hoax spells conspiracy "M.O.O.N".

[notsofungi]

My wife's whole family bought that Fox special hook, line, and sinker. I tried to explain some basic physics to them, but it was to no avail. On the other hand, these same people thought the world was ending with Y2K. They still have bottled water and canned goods in the basement that they are trying to use up.

[MidtownSpartan]

Originally Posted by spartan_in_mpls

This was on National Geographic earlier this week. I watched it and yes there are quite a few conspiracy theorists out there.

Haven't seen that. Maybe I'll youtube it just so I have some more counter points for my friend.

[bulldogg]

Originally Posted by I_Hate_wolverines

You're right, everyone of FOX's arguments can be countered. They just take advantage of the average person's lack of physics knowledge.

I wouldn't be so fast.

Along the same lines, my physics professor in high school actually tried to teach us that the world is flat. He was a member of the Flat Earth Society. It was actually much harder than you would think to argue that he was wrong.

(now, do I REALLY think that he believed that .... no. But he certainly made a bunch of 9th graders take notice and really think).

[Les Paul]

I don't mind the conspiracy... personally, I wish we really did fake the moon landing.. and those morons in the Soviet Union ate it up.

[MidtownSpartan]

Originally Posted by bulldogg

I wouldn't be so fast.

Along the same lines, my physics professor in high school actually tried to teach us that the world is flat. He was a member of the Flat Earth Society. It was actually much harder than you would think to argue that he was wrong.

(now, do I REALLY think that he believed that .... no. But he certainly made a bunch of 9th graders take notice and really think).

There's nothing wrong with questioning what everyone else in the world might believe. But once there is overwhleming evidence for the opposite side, you have to call a spade a spade.

My real question is about why people cling to these arguments in the face of a mountain of evidence showing they are wrong. As a 9th grader you probably listened to your teachers points that argued the world was flat, weighted them against the evidence that it was round, and decided it was round. Why do so many people not do this with these other theories? It's a psycholgy question I guess.

[Spacemaker]

The moon landing and holocaust are my favorite conspiracy theory subjects. The people who believe that those things didn't happen usually have some hilarious explanations for lots of things unrelated to either of those events.

[TrapperGus]

Wells...10,9,8,7,6,5...

[MidtownSpartan]

Originally Posted by Spacemaker

The moon landing and holocaust are my favorite conspiracy theory subjects. The people who believe that those things didn't happen usually have some hilarious explanations for lots of things unrelated to either of those events.

These are perfect examples of the unsound argument that the lack of evidence for one thing is proof for the opposite. Evolution fits into this category too.

[ChiSpartan1620]

DEATH BELT OF RADIATION!!!!

You can't get out of the death belt.

[bulldogg]

Originally Posted by MidtownSpartan

There's nothing wrong with questioning what everyone else in the world might believe. But once there is overwhleming evidence for the opposite side, you have to call a spade a spade.

My real question is about why people cling to these arguments in the face of a mountain of evidence showing they are wrong. As a 9th grader you probably listened to your teachers points that argued the world was flat, weighted them against the evidence that it was round, and decided it was round. Why do so many people not do this with these other theories? It's a psycholgy question I guess.

Exactly. It was just a way to get 20 9th graders attention. While he had a counter to everything that you said (sometimes it was flimsy, sometimes not), it was interesting.

Twenty years later, I distinctly remember the class.

[MidtownSpartan]

Originally Posted by ChiSpartan1620

DEATH BELT OF RADIATION!!!!

You can't get out of the death belt.

Why can't we get past it? Because it is called the death belt? How much radiation is a person exposed to when they are in it? And how much radiation is enough to kill a person? Just curious.

[MidtownSpartan]

I love the disclaimer at the bottom

[gomersbro]

Originally Posted by bulldogg

I wouldn't be so fast.

Along the same lines, my physics professor in high school actually tried to teach us that the world is flat. He was a member of the Flat Earth Society. It was actually much harder than you would think to argue that he was wrong.

(now, do I REALLY think that he believed that .... no. But he certainly made a bunch of 9th graders take notice and really think).

People who believe in flat earth can't believe in gravity then (at least how it is explained by Newton).

[bulldogg]

Originally Posted by gomersbro

People who believe in flat earth can't believe in gravity then (at least how it is explained by Newton).

Actually, you are right and bringing back the memories. He taught that there was no gravity ... and that it is star pressure that keeps us on the planet.

FYI ... they don't really believe that the Earth is flat, but rather "pancake" shaped - thicker in the middle and thinner at the edges. We all live on one side (the north pole in the middle, and the south pole around the edges.)

[notsofungi]

My favorite is that there was not enough computer power for them to land on the moon. I don't care that today's calculators are more sophisticated. The actually guys at mission control were the smart ones not the equipment. I usually asked the conspiracy guys; if we faked the landing then why did we go to the trouble to go back. Did we fake all of them? Was the whole Apollo 13 thing a hoax too? Just a little too elaborate for it all to be a fake.