Ann Coulter: We want 'Jews to be perfected'

[The Commish]

Who here honestly doesn't believe that, in another lifetime, Ann C. would have been in a foxhole in front of the Reich Chancellery firing wildly at advancing Soviet troops all so her beloved Third Reich and its infallable Fuhrer could have a few more hours of life?

[The Commish]

Originally Posted by '86

Ann Coulter Donny Deutsch Jews Perfected The Big Idea

Here it is for anyone who hasn't seen it. After 2 1/2 minutes of him pushing her and pushing her to describe her 'perfect world', imagine Coulter, a Christian, would want to see everyone else believing in Jesus too! Imagine that! Shocking, huh?

He ought to be rejoicing because she betrays her faith and the Word of God and offers up the heretical dual-covenant theology concocted to appease Jews who want majority 'Judeo-Christian' status without the Christ. Man, he really would have been mad if she had held true to her faith- there is no other way to God but through Jesus!

A Christian who calls others f***......

Apparently the whole "Golden Rule" part escaped her studies of Christianity.

[Island of misfit toys]

Originally Posted by Spartamus Prime

A Christian who calls others f***......

Apparently the whole "Golden Rule" part escaped her studies of Christianity.

Oh, just terrible, just terrible, isn't it?

What? Her useages of f** all revolved around a single incident? It's not like she goes around calling people f**s everyday. All she is doing is pushing back a little against those who want to force upon the rest of us the belief that it is perfectly normal and healthy for guys to 'F' each other in the ass. Go ahead and believe that, but don't push that on me.

As far as the golden rule goes, the answer is 'yes'. Please, when I am lost in sin, please call it sin and show me the way out.

[SBSpartan]

Originally Posted by go_disc_golf

that's the point.



Are you nuts? EVERYONE is talking about this. I don't think I'd ever heard of Dutch before this. He just let her spew and dig her own hole, meanwhile his show is getting tons of attention now.

First of all I don't think she is a bigot.

Secondly, he did pester her for a long time before she went off. She just didn't start digging her hole as you say at the first chance she got.

He asked her, he asked again...what was she supposed to do? Say something like, oh my faith is just ok...it's not the best.

Why believe in a religion if you don't believe in it fully?

[Island of misfit toys]

Originally Posted by SBSpartan

First of all I don't think she is a bigot.

Secondly, he did pester her for a long time before she went off. She just didn't start digging her hole as you say at the first chance she got.

He asked her, he asked again...what was she supposed to do? Say something like, oh my faith is just ok...it's not the best.

Why believe in a religion if you don't believe in it fully?

The last thing you might want is affirmation from me but I can't help myself.

[The Commish]

Originally Posted by '86

Oh, just terrible, just terrible, isn't it?

What? Her useages of f** all revolved around a single incident? It's not like she goes around calling people f**s everyday. All she is doing is pushing back a little against those who want to force upon the rest of us the belief that it is perfectly normal and healthy for guys to 'F' each other in the ass. Go ahead and believe that, but don't push that on me.

As far as the golden rule goes, the answer is 'yes'. Please, when I am lost in sin, please call it sin and show me the way out.

So basically you intrepret the golden rule as you can do onto others as you'd have done to you, but if you don't a few times.....then its ok.

Just want to clarify that hatred and bigotry of others, who in no way are out to harm you BTW, is legit under certain circumstances. I mean I thought it being called the "GOLDEN" rule kind of meant it pretty much superceeded everything else, but I'm glad to know that you and Ann are so versed in Christanity to know the loopholes that exist for gays and others.

[go_disc_golf]

Originally Posted by SBSpartan

First of all I don't think she is a bigot.

Of course you don't.

Secondly, he did pester her for a long time before she went off. She just didn't start digging her hole as you say at the first chance she got.

Gosh, I didn't know that being pestered automatically caused people to make bigoted statements.

He asked her, he asked again...what was she supposed to do? Say something like, oh my faith is just ok...it's not the best.

Why believe in a religion if you don't believe in it fully?

So you agree with what she said?

[Bob Sakimano]

I didn't watch the video and certainly don't plan on it...

I don't need to watch it to know that she is a hate-filled racist sexist bigot..

There is a part of me that enjoys it when she gets face time as her comments, when combined with O'Reilly's racist rants and Limbaugh's disparaging remarks about the troops serve the Democrats very well.

On the downside, I do with all rhetoric such as this were toned down - but as long as you have folks of the Coulter, O'Reilly, Limbaugh ilk out there, the Democrats might as well get as much mileage from it that they can.

[DB]

Originally Posted by Bob Sakimano

I didn't watch the video and certainly don't plan on it...

I don't need to watch it to know that she is a hate-filled racist sexist bigot..

There is a part of me that enjoys it when she gets face time as her comments, when combined with O'Reilly's racist rants and Limbaugh's disparaging remarks about the troops serve the Democrats very well.

On the downside, I do with all rhetoric such as this were toned down - but as long as you have folks of the Coulter, O'Reilly, Limbaugh ilk out there, the Democrats might as well get as much mileage from it that they can.

you are such a "life tourist".

[Bob Sakimano]

Originally Posted by DB

you are such a "life tourist".

[Island of misfit toys]

Originally Posted by Spartamus Prime

So basically you intrepret the golden rule as you can do onto others as you'd have done to you, but if you don't a few times.....then its ok.

Just want to clarify that hatred and bigotry of others, who in no way are out to harm you BTW, is legit under certain circumstances. I mean I thought it being called the "GOLDEN" rule kind of meant it pretty much superceeded everything else, but I'm glad to know that you and Ann are so versed in Christanity to know the loopholes that exist for gays and others.

Look, she was just pushing back, a little. Exhibit 'A', you, calling us 'hateful' and 'bigots' because we aren't really down with the 'mantrain' (Google images- but it's on you, don't blame me). I don't hate anybody and I wish no harm to anyone. But, I reserve my right to call 'absolutely messed up' absolutely messed up. Ann Coulter doesn't just go around calling people f*** and neither do I.

Ok, there was the single incident. WTF. Does your Bible say anything about mercy? I can't find 'golden rule' in my Bible but I did find this:

28And one of the scribes came, and having heard them reasoning together, and perceiving that he had answered them well, asked him, Which is the first commandment of all?
29And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:
30And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.
31And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.

[Golfnut]

hopefully someday in a perfect world all the Jews will become model christians just like Ann.


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[Island of misfit toys]

Originally Posted by LoneWolfSparty®

I love Jews, but they should convert to Christianity.

Yea rather, Jesus loves Jews and only wants the best for them.

[Island of misfit toys]

Alright, I'm not a follower of Coulter and don't even care to try to defend everything she has said. I'm just aware of the Donny Deutsch interview and the '***' punking of Edwards and I didn't see anything too bad with either of them. LWS, the debate is yours.

[The Commish]

Originally Posted by '86

Look, she was just pushing back, a little. Exhibit 'A', you, calling us 'hateful' and 'bigots' because we aren't really down with the 'mantrain' (Google images- but it's on you, don't blame me). I don't hate anybody and I wish no harm to anyone. But, I reserve my right to call 'absolutely messed up' absolutely messed up. Ann Coulter doesn't just go around calling people f*** and neither do I.

Ok, there was the single incident. WTF. Does your Bible say anything about mercy? I can't find 'golden rule' in my Bible but I did find this:

Matthew 7:12
"So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets."

Luke 6: 27-36
Love Your Enemies
27 "But I say to you who listen: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, 28 bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. 29 If anyone hits you on the cheek, offer the other also. And if anyone takes away your coat, don't hold back your shirt either. 30 Give to everyone who asks from you, and from one who takes away your things, don't ask for them back. 31 Just as you want others to do for you, do the same for them. 32 If you love those who love you, what credit is that to you? Even sinners love those who love them. 33 If you do [what is] good to those who are good to you, what credit is that to you? Even sinners do that. 34 And if you lend to those from whom you expect to receive, what credit is that to you? Even sinners lend to sinners to be repaid in full. 35 But love your enemies, do [what is] good, and lend, expecting nothing in return. Then your reward will be great, and you will be sons of the Most High. For He is gracious to the ungrateful and evil. 36 Be merciful, just as your Father also is merciful.

[Golfnut]

Originally Posted by Spartamus Prime

Matthew 7:12
"So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets."

Luke 6: 27-36
Love Your Enemies
27 "But I say to you who listen: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, 28 bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. 29 If anyone hits you on the cheek, offer the other also. And if anyone takes away your coat, don't hold back your shirt either. 30 Give to everyone who asks from you, and from one who takes away your things, don't ask for them back. 31 Just as you want others to do for you, do the same for them. 32 If you love those who love you, what credit is that to you? Even sinners love those who love them. 33 If you do [what is] good to those who are good to you, what credit is that to you? Even sinners do that. 34 And if you lend to those from whom you expect to receive, what credit is that to you? Even sinners lend to sinners to be repaid in full. 35 But love your enemies, do [what is] good, and lend, expecting nothing in return. Then your reward will be great, and you will be sons of the Most High. For He is gracious to the ungrateful and evil. 36 Be merciful, just as your Father also is merciful.

such a ****ty piece of fiction. I feel sorry for people who actually believe this garbage.

bible

[Island of misfit toys]

Originally Posted by Spartamus Prime

Matthew 7:12
"So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets."

Luke 6: 27-36
Love Your Enemies
27 "But I say to you who listen: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, 28 bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. 29 If anyone hits you on the cheek, offer the other also. And if anyone takes away your coat, don't hold back your shirt either. 30 Give to everyone who asks from you, and from one who takes away your things, don't ask for them back. 31 Just as you want others to do for you, do the same for them. 32 If you love those who love you, what credit is that to you? Even sinners love those who love them. 33 If you do [what is] good to those who are good to you, what credit is that to you? Even sinners do that. 34 And if you lend to those from whom you expect to receive, what credit is that to you? Even sinners lend to sinners to be repaid in full. 35 But love your enemies, do [what is] good, and lend, expecting nothing in return. Then your reward will be great, and you will be sons of the Most High. For He is gracious to the ungrateful and evil. 36 Be merciful, just as your Father also is merciful.

This is good. I don't see where we should have any problem.

[Island of misfit toys]

Originally Posted by Golfnut

such a ****ty piece of fiction. I feel sorry for people who actually believe this garbage.

bible

Golfnut...

[Golfnut]

Originally Posted by '86

Golfnut...

thanks.

[SBSpartan]

Originally Posted by go_disc_golf

Of course you don't.



Gosh, I didn't know that being pestered automatically caused people to make bigoted statements.



So you agree with what she said?

Did I say I agreed with her?

[go_disc_golf]

Originally Posted by SBSpartan

Did I say I agreed with her?

He asked her, he asked again...what was she supposed to do? Say something like, oh my faith is just ok...it's not the best.

Why believe in a religion if you don't believe in it fully?

Sure sounds like you agree with her.

Do you? Or don't you?

[go_disc_golf]

Originally Posted by '86

Don't embarrass yourself asserting that you are a complete relativist and that people don't choose their religions because they believe their religions have the most accurate, powerful truths.



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I think people choose what works for them, or what they were brought up with. Tolerant people will recognize that what works for them, might not work for others. That doesn't make Christianity better, just different.

Or, go ahead and expose yourself as a naive, complete relativist so that we know just to ignore you.

We? You got a gerbil up your butt or something?

Not everyone thinks in terms of hegemony. If that gets you off, well then I feel sorry for you. Because that's not how it works with anyone I know.

[Cym Jim]

Whenever Ann Coulter ventures out in public, the only question of interest is what sort of stain she’ll leave behind. She is, after all, simply Andrew Dice Clay with slightly better legs, and a shtick that’s even more predictable. We all know the drill: Go on the air, engage in verbal voiding at some random left-wing or Democratic target, then strut off while the Ann-fans (AnnDroids?) rub their knees together and chortle about how that straight-talkin’ gal just drives those liberals plumb crazy.

So how curious to realize that the latest emission from Coulter’s oral sphincter can aid our understanding of democracy and life in America. I have no idea if she’s a sincere and practicing Christian — I find the idea a bit of a stretch, quite frankly — but when she told CNBC host Donnie Deutsch that Jews need to be “perfected” into Christians, Coulter was simply articulating a genuine religious viewpoint. I even believe she intended no offense to Deutsch, just as I believe born-again cartoonist Johnny “No Relation” Hart intended no offense when he showed a menorah morphing into a cross in this notoriously cloddish B.C. comic strip he drew for Easter 2001. When he was accused of anti-Semitism for promoting “replacement theology” — the notion that Jews are pre-Christians waiting to be brought all the way over – Hart denied any Jew-hating tendencies. No doubt he meant every word.

Sorry folks, but not only is ”replacement theology” the message underlying that B.C. strip and the walking cartoon character known as Ann Coulter, it’s also the motivating force behind a lot of Christianist support for Israel — they see the return of Jews to their homeland as a necessary step to bringing on the end times. I leave it to you eager readers to delve into Christianist notions about what happens after the Rapture whisks all the faithful out of their Buster Browns and up to heaven, but I’ll give you a hint: things don’t turn out very happily for Jews who refuse to get with the program and start kickin’ it J.C. style.

Coulter’s witticism has been getting a lot of attention, and it wouldn’t surprise me if this marked the first time one of her remarks actually had career repercussions. It would certainly be a savory irony if the statement that finally got her knocked off mainstream media outlets was also one of the few times she came within even shouting distance of the truth.

The foundation of any religion is the belief that a significant percentage of the world’s population is damned to eternal torment because they don’t follow your deity’s program. It’s motivated everything from the Spanish Inquisition to the destruction of the World Trade Center. The idea of an ecumenical ”community of faith” is a polite fiction that makes civilized life possible. That’s what this whole “separation of church and state” business is all about. It allows a civil society to function. With all the Bible-bangers and Jesus whoopers swarming on the media and the halls of government, it’s hard for too many people to remember that basic truth, and by casually stepping in it on CNBC, Ann Coulter has reminded us of why religion cannot be allowed to dominate the public square.

So thank you, Ann Coulter, for remding everyone of this truth, even if you only did it by accident. I still wouldn’t want to touch you with a leper’s claw, but now you can say your vacuous, hate-spewing career served at least one legitimate purpose.

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[Island of misfit toys]

Originally Posted by go_disc_golf

I think people choose what works for them, or what they were brought up with. Tolerant people will recognize that what works for them, might not work for others. That doesn't make Christianity better, just different. In your most certainly, humble opinion! Myself, I'm not going to be a jerk after I've pushed and pushed and a Muslim tells me that Mohammed is a greater prophet than Jesus- what's he supposed to say! And where does this guy get off getting pissy with her because she proclaims basic beliefs of her faith (weirdly, yes) after he probed and probed. I think the way she did it was just meant to be playful, trying to punk him, but he was trying to win an acid war of words. I can see your point about intolerance, you just have the wrong offender. Let it go. You hear these clowns openly mocking Islam, but that's ok. Upon persistent questioning, she basically states that Jesus is the path of life- EUREKA! What would you expect a Christian to say!?


We? You got a gerbil up your butt or something? It tickles when it wiggles. I'm going to ask my boyfriend to pull it out though, I've got to take a massive dump.
Not everyone thinks in terms of hegemony. If that gets you off, well then I feel sorry for you. Because that's not how it works with anyone I know. She isn't thinking in terms of hegemony. Salvation in Jesus Christ is the world's greatest opportunity. I owe it to you to tell you that, but you aren't going to see me fretting. Trying to force you to believe is just anti-thetical to how it all works. I concede, we Christians err in how we go about sharing this 'good news' sometimes. I'll help you, we can be downright dicks! Call us...human! He was the one who was unreasonable and lacking a sense of humor. In this case, he got his interview, his one and only, I hope he enjoyed it.

[go_disc_golf]

Upon persistent questioning, she basically states that Jesus is the path of life-

If that is what she "basically" stated, nobody would be having a problem with it.

She isn't thinking in terms of hegemony

Actually, that's exactly how she is thinking.


The rest of your post certainly helps to explain why you are desperately trying to defend her. Trust me, 86, nobody is going to look at Christians in a bad light because of what Ann said, as nobody in their right mind would truly consider Ann a Christian.