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Old 01-31-2008, 01:13 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Bill Clinton: "Bad economy good for the environment."

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Old 01-31-2008, 01:48 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Wow. I consider myself pretty moderate and open minded, but I am going to cry if the Clintons are elected. The damage their eco-socialist policies will do to the economy could be irreparable.
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Old 01-31-2008, 02:25 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I am not a Clinton fan. Unless you are a complete idiot,
you should know there is some truth in that statement.
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Old 01-31-2008, 02:33 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I am not a Clinton fan. Unless you are a complete idiot,
you should know there is some truth in that statement.
It is ignorant. 1) The economy won't remain slow so it is short-term. 2) Innovation is the key to the problem (if you think humans are which I do not) and innovation slows with the economy. 3) Anyone that would trade a good economy for battling GCC is a moron.
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Old 01-31-2008, 02:40 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Clinton's thought processes require more than just listening to the words but deeper evaluation. While on the surface his statement might not make sense - think. I know its hard with the current Administration's dissing of thought processes.
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Old 01-31-2008, 03:44 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I am not a Clinton fan. Unless you are a complete idiot,
you should know there is some truth in that statement.
and that's why LoneBeeCoward can't identify the truth in it.
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Old 01-31-2008, 03:53 PM   #7 (permalink)
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No, Clinton does not want to ’slow down our economy’


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ABC News’ Jake Tapper has caused quite a stir with an item this morning about a speech Bill Clinton delivered yesterday in Denver.
In a long, and interesting speech, he characterized what the U.S. and other industrialized nations need to do to combat global warming this way: “We just have to slow down our economy and cut back our greenhouse gas emissions ’cause we have to save the planet for our grandchildren.”
At a time that the nation is worried about a recession is that really the characterization his wife would want him making? “Slow down our economy”?
I don’t really think there’s much debate that, at least initially, a full commitment to reduce greenhouse gases would slow down the economy….So was this a moment of candor?
Actually, no, it’s a moment taken out of context in such a way as to change the meaning of the sentence. Consider what Clinton actually said.
“And maybe America, and Europe, and Japan, and Canada — the rich counties — would say, ‘OK, we just have to slow down our economy and cut back our greenhouse gas emissions ’cause we have to save the planet for our grandchildren.’ We could do that.
But if we did that, you know as well as I do, China and India and Indonesia and Vietnam and Mexico and Brazil and the Ukraine, and all the other countries will never agree to stay poor to save the planet for our grandchildren. The only way we can do this is if we get back in the world’s fight against global warming and prove it is good economics that we will create more jobs to build a sustainable economy that saves the planet for our children and grandchildren. It is the only way it will work.”
Tapper appears to have gotten the story backwards. He wrote that Clinton “characterized what the U.S. and other industrialized nations need to do to combat global warming this way: ‘We just have to slow down our economy and cut back our greenhouse gas emissions ’cause we have to save the planet for our grandchildren.’” Clinton actually argued the opposite.
But Tapper’s mistake is spreading quickly.

The Republican National Committee, among others, are making hay of the ABC report. “Senator Clinton’s campaign now says we must ’slow down the economy’ to stop global warming,” said Alex Conant, RNC Spokesman. “Clinton needs to come back to Earth. Her ‘tax-it, spend-it, regulate-it’ attitude would really bring the economy crashing down.”
Please. How misleading was Tapper’s report? Far-right blogs are criticizing it. The Corner’s Iain Murray wrote:
[The ABC] video is actually (and again, I can’t believe I’m saying this) really unfair to Bill Clinton. The biter bit, you may say, but I don’t believe this sort of manipulation by the media is in any way helpful. The clip is out of context…. That’s not good journalism in any sense.
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I have to say, as much as I loathe Billy Jeff and all, ABC is misrepresenting what he said. Sure, he uttered the line about slowing down the economy, but he followed that with an explanation of why that’s a bad idea…. The bottom line is that, for whatever reason, ABC actually played Clinton’s “slow down the economy” line unfairly.
When conservative bloggers are defending Bill Clinton against bad journalism, you know the journalism has to be really bad.

Nevertheless, I’m afraid with the RNC and Townhall.com pushing the bogus story line, we may be looking at media malpractice along the lines of “inventing the Internet.” How soon until pundits are simply asserting, as fact, the notion that Bill Clinton wants to “slow down our economy”?
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I am not a Clinton fan. Unless you are a complete idiot,
you should know there is some truth in that statement.
I hate the Clintons, but it is totally true. The human race will destroy itself and the planet because it is too stupid to figure out you can't have an economic system based on infinite growth in a finite world.
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Old 01-31-2008, 04:32 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Hillary would be the dream candidate for the GOP.
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Hillary would be the dream candidate for the GOP.
Well it sure helps when their media hacks are willing to lie about things.
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Sounds like Clinton finally understands why the US Senate voted 95-0 to not ratify the Kyoto Protocol. Other industrial nations, like Brazil, India and China might wish to ratify while having no intention of complying. At least we were smart enough not to participate in the charade.
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Old 02-01-2008, 12:03 PM   #12 (permalink)
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The human race will destroy itself and the planet because it is too stupid to figure out you can't have an economic system based on infinite growth in a finite world.
Absolutely - we have those in power and their supporters who only look to the immediate bottom line and what they can take and then move on. It started in modern times with Ronnie boy and continues with Brush Jr.
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