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04-03-2008, 10:27 PM
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Global temperature has not increased since 1998
Never heard of the BBC, but I am sure they are connected to either Fox News or Big Oil.
BBC NEWS | Science/Nature | Global temperatures 'to decrease'
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04-03-2008, 11:17 PM
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Without reading the article yet, can you tell me, does it explain the shift in temperatures throughout regions that has never been seen before?
While there may be no significant net global change, the polar caps are melting, and central europe is getting colder... something is f'd.
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04-03-2008, 11:33 PM
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last year, 15 60F day by this date. this year. 1 - where is Chicago's warming
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04-04-2008, 01:10 AM
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The very next sentence:
"But experts have also forecast a record high temperature within five years."
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04-04-2008, 01:17 AM
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Originally Posted by TheAlphaPaul
"But experts have also forecast a record high temperature within five years."
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Trust the experts:
MIAMI, Florida (CNN) -- Defying predictions, the 2006 Atlantic hurricane season ended with a whimper rather than a bang on Thursday, without a single hurricane hitting U.S. shores.
Only three tropical storms made landfall, a welcome relief from the previous two years, when nearly a dozen hurricanes battered the country.
The year's tropical activity fell well short of predictions made at the beginning of the season that called for an above-average number of storms -- although not as many as last year's record-shattering season of 28 named storms.
Fizzling 2007 hurricane season stokes warming debate
With less than a month left in the hurricane season, and the remnants of Hurricane Noel dissipating off the New England coastline, it appears this season could end up as something of a bust.
That wasn't the outlook a couple of months ago, when this year's hurricane season threatened to be a whopper.
Two Category 5 hurricanes had already crashed through the Caribbean by early September, only the fourth time since 1935 that two of the most powerful category of storms had formed in a single year. And the season, which traditionally peaks in mid-September, was still young.
It seemed as if the fears of scientists who believe global warming has increased hurricane activity were being realized.
But according to a statistic that scientists use to gauge the overall strength of a season, the Accumulated Cyclone Energy index, overall activity for this year almost certainly will come in below average, perhaps by as much as 50 percent. Only a major hurricane could change that now.
That's in stark contrast to the preseason forecast for 2007 by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, which called for an ACE index up to 200 percent above average.
Hurricanes Dean and Felix were major storms, but most of the year's remaining systems only developed into minimal tropical storms.
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04-04-2008, 10:27 AM
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Did you even read beyond the headline? 
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Seriously. At some point you have to wonder how irrational people will become to cling to their preconceived notions.
When you get past the headline you see:
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The WMO points out that the decade from 1998 to 2007 was the warmest on record.
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"La Nina is part of what we call 'variability'. There has always been and there will always be cooler and warmer years, but what is important for climate change is that the trend is up; the climate on average is warming even if there is a temporary cooling because of La Nina."
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Adam Scaife, lead scientist for Modelling Climate Variability at the Hadley Centre in Exeter, UK, said their best estimate for 2008 was about 0.4C above the 1961-1990 average, and higher than this if you compared it with further back in the 20th Century.
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04-04-2008, 11:14 AM
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The very next sentence:
"But experts have also forecast a record high temperature within five years."
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They can't forecast weather this summer, what makes you think they can forecast the weather in 5 years?
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04-04-2008, 11:27 AM
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i read the article. i see no quotes from any of the "minority of scientists" that are questioning if global warming has peaked. all i see included in this article by a "BBC News Environmental Analyst" is quotes by the GW alarmists. once again, the other side is not represented in this article, therefore is nothing but propaganda.
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04-04-2008, 11:50 AM
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i read the article. i see no quotes from any of the "minority of scientists" that are questioning if global warming has peaked. all i see included in this article by a "BBC News Environmental Analyst" is quotes by the GW alarmists. once again, the other side is not represented in this article, therefore is nothing but propaganda.
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Absolutely! We must respect both sides of the scientific argument, not just the one supported by facts.
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04-04-2008, 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by RQA
Never heard of the BBC, but I am sure they are connected to either Fox News or Big Oil.
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Originally Posted by FC Juventus
therefore is nothing but propaganda.
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you may be right!
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04-04-2008, 11:58 AM
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Anyone who is not convinced by now there is global warming...just ask the big Oil Companies...they know it's a good thing. Another carboniferous era would be good for domestic coal and oil production
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04-04-2008, 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by FC Juventus
once again, the other side is not represented in this article, therefore is nothing but propaganda.
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You're right. My geology class was the same way. They didn't present the evidence that the Earth was 6000 years old. Pure propaganda. 
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04-04-2008, 12:14 PM
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You're right. My geology class was the same way. They didn't present the evidence that the Earth was 6000 years old. Pure propaganda.  
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link please
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04-04-2008, 12:32 PM
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Global warming is like religion: I don't know and neither do you.
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How incredibly like you to not show the slightest interest in seeking understanding on the issue.
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04-04-2008, 01:11 PM
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Exactly.
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04-04-2008, 01:39 PM
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Termperature is linked to CO levels. So, we must have dramatically decreased the CO levels.
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04-04-2008, 02:17 PM
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Termperature is linked to CO levels. So, we must have dramatically decreased the CO levels.
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All kings live in castles. GreenSpartan is not a king. So, GreenSpartan does not live in a castle.
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04-04-2008, 03:01 PM
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All kings live in castles. GreenSpartan is not a king. So, GreenSpartan does not live in a castle.
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now I get it.
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04-04-2008, 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by go_disc_golf
Did you even read beyond the headline? 
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Of course I did! This was one of the more informative parts:
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coldest temperatures in memory in snow-bound parts of China.
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04-04-2008, 04:46 PM
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All kings live in castles. GreenSpartan is not a king. So, GreenSpartan does not live in a castle.
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I always pictured GreenSpartan living in one of those eco-dome thingies....
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04-04-2008, 04:49 PM
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Without reading the article yet, can you tell me, does it explain the shift in temperatures throughout regions that has never been seen before?
While there may be no significant net global change, the polar caps are melting, and central europe is getting colder... something is f'd.
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What are you trying to say - that global temperatures are variable? Thanks for that news flash.
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04-04-2008, 04:52 PM
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While there may be no significant net global change, the polar caps are melting, and central europe is getting colder... something is f'd.
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Sounds like the earth must have spun 90 degrees, the poles are now the equator, and the equator the poles  I so do love the global warming dudes, they make me laugh.
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04-04-2008, 04:53 PM
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I always pictured GreenSpartan living in one of those eco-dome thingies.... 
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I've seriously looked into it. You save 30% right off heating and cooling bills right off the top because of the shape.
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