The Global Warming Myth hopefully near end!

[chriswyse]

Watch the web for climate change truths - Telegraph

Check out above link. Very good article that the brainwashed won't believe but is confirmed by their Man-made GW Scientists although they say the 30 year cooling period is happening because of GW.

For those of you sheep that still like to follow your leader Al Gore ask him if you can stay at his mansion when you can't pay your heating bills?

[Polynikes]

Originally Posted by chriswyse

Watch the web for climate change truths - Telegraph

Check out above link. Very good article that the brainwashed won't believe but is confirmed by their Man-made GW Scientists although they say the 30 year cooling period is happening because of GW.

For those of you sheep that still like to follow your leader Al Gore ask him if you can stay at his mansion when you can't pay your heating bills?

One can only hope that the recent "outing" of the global warming fanatics, will lead to an honest and open discussion of the issue.

The global warming high priesthood is either going to have to learn how to persuade others, or they will be just another footnote to history.

Step one would be to take seriously the shortcomings in their scientific methodology.

Step two would be to stop pushing for an immediate and overwhelming U.S. GOVERNMENT response.

Those of us who don't rely on our cerebellum for rational thought, realize that the GOVERNMENT is rarely the best cure.

[GRR Spartan]

Always nice to hear from the world is flat crew.

[Enrico Palazzo]

yeah, nothing like a con hack educated in history to single handedly debunk what hundreds of scientific studies have confirmed as real, in an opinion piece.

Of course, if some con said the Yeti is real you'd probably believe that too.

[Last Post]

If you go green, you can save a ton of money. I have solar panels, a solar heater, high insulation, flourescent bulbs, Energy star appliances/TVs, cheap fuel efficient car and bike as much as I can.

If you don't want to do it for the environment, do it for your pocketbook. You can save a lot of money.

[lars]

I'm sure the global warming enthusiasts on the board won't read this report. So here are some highlights to make it easy to keep them informed.

The proponents of man-made global warming have become so rattled by how the forecasts of their computer models are being contradicted by the data that some are rushing to modify the thesis.

Tracking satellite data for the tropical troposphere, it showed March temperatures plunging to one of their lowest points in 30 years.

study warning that Arctic sea ice was melting so fast that it may soon reach a "tipping point" where "irreversible change" takes place. This was based on last September's data, showing ice cover having shrunk over six months from 13 million square kilometres to just 3 million.
What the WWF omitted to mention was that by March the ice had recovered to 14 million sq km (see the website Cryosphere Today), and that ice-cover around the Bering Strait and Alaska that month was at its highest level ever recorded. (At the same time Antarctic sea ice-cover was also at its highest-ever level, 30 per cent above normal).

The most dramatic evidence, however, emerged last week with an announcement by Nasa's Jet Propulsion Laboratory that an immense slow-cycling movement of water in the Pacific, known as the Pacific Decadal Oscillation (PDO), had unexpectedly shifted into its cool phase, something which only happens every 30 years or so, ultimately affecting climate all over the globe.

On the other hand, a growing number of scientists are producing ever more evidence to show how those computer models are based on wholly inadequate data and assumptions - as is being confirmed by the behaviour of nature itself (not least the continuing non-arrival of sunspot cycle 24).

The fact is that what has been happening to the world's climate in recent years, since global temperatures ceased to rise after 1998, was not predicted by any of those officially-sponsored models. The discrepancy between their predictions and observable data becomes more glaring with every month that passes

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[Polynikes]

Originally Posted by lars

I'm sure the global warming enthusiasts on the board won't read this report. So here are some highlights to make it easy to keep them informed.

Nice job, lars.

It makes me feel better that most of the man-made global warming hysteria is crap.

I have more faith in Mother Nature's ability to regulate climate. I have far less faith in my fellow humans' ability to modify behavior.

[John Deere]

In view of what is now at stake, such quasi-religious incantations masquerading as science are something we can no longer afford. We should get back to proper science before it is too late.

This is science, dude! Not religion where faith is a requirement. I'm sure all the GCC advocates understand GCC forwards and backwards and sideways so they know it is fact. That's what science is, fact and understanding, not faith in a scientist's ability to predict the future.

****

Yeah. It's like my deep understanding of evolution. It has something to do with something called natural selection and billions of years. It really is quite simple. Me smart.

Signed,

Igni

[MuskyMelon]

Why do people think that they recently changed Global Warming to Global Climate Change, because the man made GW thing is being proven incorrect, plain and simple. And again, I am sure they will all deny the GW thing in 20 years or so, and say it was all the darn media again...

[lars]

Look. Lets not get too carried away. Science knows that some things are happening. We are producing alot more CO2 than in the past. Everyone agrees that C02 can have some effect small on warming patterns.

But the question that has yet to be proved. Is whether that C02 will create other effects like water vapor feedback. Which is the difference between barely noticable warming and the huge warming that Al Gore and others tout. So far, the real data seems to be coming in that the water vapor effect is not happening which explains why the warming is likely mimimal.

[Other Mike]

Obama is looking like he'll be the POTUS next year. That will be the end of GW talk, until someone from the GOP wins it back.

[Polynikes]

Originally Posted by Other Mike

Obama is looking like he'll be the POTUS next year. That will be the end of GW talk, until someone from the GOP wins it back.

Please translate.

You do know that McCain is Mr. Global Warming?

[Other Mike]

McCain can't win the GW issue. If he says anything different than the standard GW stuff, it will be a huge negative story to the media. His best option is to avoid it.

[go_disc_golf]

Originally Posted by Other Mike

McCain can't win the GW issue. If he says anything different than the standard GW stuff, it will be a huge negative story to the media. His best option is to avoid it.

You haven't been paying attention.

[ninowesco]

who cares about global warming

people can't afford gas to drive cars anyway

[Hans Klopek]

Originally Posted by ninowesco

who cares about global warming

people can't afford gas to drive cars anyway

Tell that to the couple hundred million people who drove today. Oh well, what good are facts. Troll on...

[Enrico Palazzo]

global warming is real, by proof of the following events. If there is one thing that one can learn on here, according to con logic, led by soft boob, a one time occurance proves something as being true:

Friday would be a good day to come down with a scratchy throat or some mystery ailment — a vitamin D deficiency, perhaps? — to take full advantage of what could be record-breaking temperatures as Seattle gets its first dose of summer.
Even if you're too busy or too ethical to play hooky from the weekday grind, Saturday is shaping up to be a sizzler — and could even become the earliest day on record to exceed the 90-degree mark.
"It's a two-day heat wave," said Johnny Burg, a meteorologist with the National Weather Service in Seattle.

See, according to boob, Global Warming is real.

[Cuchulainn]

Originally Posted by Enrico Palazzo

yeah, nothing like a con hack educated in history to single handedly debunk what hundreds of scientific studies have confirmed as real, in an opinion piece.

Of course, if some con said the Yeti is real you'd probably believe that too.

Saying that there is scientific consensus and there is no need for debate is hardly scientific.

2,660 physicists, geophysicists, climatologists, meteorologists, oceanographers, and other environmental scientists (so far) have signed a petition saying that global warming hysteria is pseudoscientific baloney. They've been joined by an additional 5,017 chemists, biochemists, biologists, and other life scientists, and over 10,000 other scientists, attached to major universities and research organizations around the world. Yet if you went by what "environmental" activist groups like Greenpeace, Sierra Club, or the so-called "Environmental News Network" tell you, you'd think this petition, and others like it, never existed.
The Oregon Petition reads, in its entirety, as follows...

We urge the United States government to reject the global warming agreement that was written in Kyoto, Japan in December, 1997, and any other similar proposals. The proposed limits on greenhouse gases would harm the environment, hinder the advance of science and technology, and damage the health and welfare of mankind. There is no convincing scientific evidence that human release of carbon dioxide, methane, or other greenhouse gasses is causing or will, in the foreseeable future, cause catastrophic heating of the Earth's atmosphere and disruption of the Earth's climate. Moreover, there is substantial scientific evidence that increases in atmospheric carbon dioxide produce many beneficial effects upon the natural plant and animal environments of the Earth.

The petition was put together by Dr. Frederick Seitz, the former President of the U.S. National Academy of Sciences. Thousands of qualified scientists have signed it, and more are signing all the time. If you're a qualified scientist or meteorologist who'd like to sign the petition yourself, or want to see a list of all the signers, click here to go to the web site run by the Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine, which is sponsoring the initiative.


The Oregon Petition is not the only such petition signed by scientists, either. Over 4,000 scientists from 106 countries, including 72 Nobel Prize winners, have signed the Heidelberg Appeal. This petition, issued in response to the Earth Summit in Rio de Janeiro back in 1992, warns against "the emergence of an irrational ideology which is opposed to scientific and industrial progress and impedes economic and social development." They further warn "the authorities in charge of our planet's destiny against decisions which are supported by pseudoscientific arguments or false and nonrelevant data."

[lars]

Originally Posted by Cuchulainn

Saying that there is scientific consensus and there is no need for debate is hardly scientific.

Do you know of any information on those who signed this petition. It only lists Ph.d...wonder how many are climate researchers.

[tWeatherman]

[G Norm Oosdyk]

Originally Posted by ninowesco

who cares about global warming

people can't afford gas to drive cars anyway

That's not what the expressways and local roads are saying... There seems to be an awful lot of traffic for a depression and with high gas prices.

[Spartytruth]

I thought the correct term is "climate change" not necesarily warming.

[MuskyMelon]

Originally Posted by Spartytruth

I thought the correct term is "climate change" not necesarily warming.

Yes, the scientific world made this change in last few months, because they realized that their GW thing they have been promoting for last 10 years is incorrect.