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05-15-2008, 02:49 PM
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 #21 Otis Wiley
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Originally Posted by Saint Joey
People who watch Olbermann are worse than Hitler, period. 
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way to invoke godwins law and make that spectacular assumption.....
does that mean that people who watch Hannity or O'Reilly worse than Pol Pot.....or Idi Amin.....???? 
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We'll destroy them in the second half anyways.
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thanks for this gem at half time.....09/01/07....UM vs 1-AA Appalachian State
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05-15-2008, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Bob Sakimano
you seem bitter.
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Bob, maybe a little irritated that the olberman's of the world can go off without rebuttal.
However, I'm comforted by the fact that their ratings stink.
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05-15-2008, 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Bob Sakimano
I don't think bu$h is Hitler..
Hitler served in a war and won the popular vote.
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 Good stuff.
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05-15-2008, 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Lenin's Tomb
The intelligence people on the ground in Iraq said that they didn't have any evidence of weapons programs, but give us more time to follow up on your concerns. The US said there is no time for that, mushroom clouds and attacks from remote planes on the US are imminent so we must attack. Yet many people were calling bull**** on that, only to be completely ignored by the administration, and you fault Saddam?
I only have control over those people in power that represent me, I don't really GAF what Saddam does to look good with his neighbors, but the US administration and intelligence community must be held to a much higher standard in my eyes.
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Please explain who exactly you are calling "the intelligence people on the ground."
Would that include scott ritter? The u.n.? Who are you talking about?
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05-15-2008, 02:58 PM
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Funny how all the Fuax News fans think O'Reilly is Pulitzer Prize material but Olberman rants on the other side of the spectrum and its a meltdown.
Olberman makes his commentary high theater and was just mad about Bush2's lame I gave up golf for the war story.
That is all.
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05-15-2008, 03:03 PM
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why can't people stay on topic....the guy gave up golf for christ's sake. can we please have a moment of silence? he is obviously hurt.
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05-15-2008, 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Plate of Shrimp
why can't people stay on topic....the guy gave up golf for christ's sake. can we please have a moment of silence? he is obviously hurt.
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I know! I mean, it was so difficult that there are AP photos of him golfing months after he said he quit. He is clearly struggling to kick his addiction to the game.
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05-15-2008, 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Polynikes
Please explain who exactly you are calling "the intelligence people on the ground."
Would that include scott ritter? The u.n.? Who are you talking about?
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The UN Inspections team. Scott Ritter I include in the chorus of those who were out front saying Iraq doesn't have any meaningful weapons programs before the invasion.
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05-23-2008, 10:57 PM
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I love Olbermann. He ripped clinton tonight.
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05-23-2008, 11:30 PM
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Seriously, does anyone watch MSNBC period? Their ratings have always sucked. They don't even come close to CNN or Fox. Why do we need 3 cable news networks when nobody watches the 3rd?
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05-23-2008, 11:37 PM
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The number of people who watch PMSNBC is measured in the hundreds of thousands. The low hundreds of thousands at that. I think more people watch the BTN than watch PMSNBC. It is strictly a liberal propaganda organ posing as a news channel.
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05-23-2008, 11:56 PM
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Originally Posted by danb
The number of people who watch PMSNBC is measured in the hundreds of thousands. The low hundreds of thousands at that. I think more people watch the BTN than watch PMSNBC. It is strictly a liberal propaganda organ posing as a news channel.
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Good, something has to balance out Roger Ailes and Fox.
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05-24-2008, 12:00 AM
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Originally Posted by TurboSpartan
Seriously, does anyone watch MSNBC period? Their ratings have always sucked. They don't even come close to CNN or Fox. Why do we need 3 cable news networks when nobody watches the 3rd?
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Olbermann is 2nd behind O'Lielly. So, you're wrong.
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05-24-2008, 12:45 AM
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 #23 Javon Ringer
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Originally Posted by Enrico Palazzo
Olbermann is 2nd behind O'Lielly. So, you're wrong.
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Not only that, but Countdown is trending upward while O'Lielly is trending downward.
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A case in point is Keith Olbermann’s Countdown, which has been criticized for avoiding confrontation by declining to book adversarial guests. But its strategy is validated by consistently being the fastest growing program on cable news. The numbers for April show that it is the only program to grow (+21%), compared to CNN’s Campbell Brown (-23%) and Fox’s Bill O’Reilly (-12%).
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News Corpse Blog » Fox News In Critical Condition
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05-24-2008, 09:19 AM
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 #21 Otis Wiley
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For anyone interested.....
you can actually get olbermann's countdown "commentaries" on I-tunes
great stuff....... helps for anyone overseas stuck with faux news.....
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Originally Posted by Amazin
We'll destroy them in the second half anyways.
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thanks for this gem at half time.....09/01/07....UM vs 1-AA Appalachian State
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05-24-2008, 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Enrico Palazzo
Olbermann is 2nd behind O'Lielly. So, you're wrong.
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Re-read my post. I was talking about MSNBC in general. That network is a very distant 3rd.
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05-24-2008, 02:00 PM
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For those of you who call Limbaugh and Hannity hateful and polarizing figures who feign outrage, I don't know who you think Keith Olbermann is.
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05-24-2008, 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by The Great Danton
For those of you who call Limbaugh and Hannity hateful and polarizing figures who feign outrage, I don't know who you think Keith Olbermann is.
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I agree. I've always thought of Olbermann as the left-wing version of Hannity. People compare him to O'Reilly because they're in the same time-slot and don't like each other, but Olbermann is definitely more Hannity-esque as far as how belligerent and ideologically far from center he is.
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05-24-2008, 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by gmrspartan
No arguement here. Like I said, we can ALL see now that the attempt to say "we'll take the fight to you" had the complete opposite affect as intended. But hindsight is always 20/20.
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Trouble is that it wasn't hindsight. People in the know, not the stupid Rummy, knew what would happen. It was not unexpected and that's what makes Bush's behavior almost/actually criminal.
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05-24-2008, 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Polynikes
However, I'm comforted by the fact that their ratings stink.
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Do we really have to keep rehashing this?
1. Fox's ratings are higher because there's only one TV outlet for the angry, doughy, 55-plus, tighty righties. The other 80 percent of the viewers are spread out among the objective news networks.
2. The more intelligent people are, the less TV they watch. Hence, higher ratings for right-wing TV like Fox.
Bottom line: Even O'Reilly's show only has about 1 in 200-plus Americans watching. Hardly a sign of overwhelming popularity.
Much as you righties want to think Fox's ratings suggest mainstream thinking, it just doesn't add up. And methinks you know it.
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05-24-2008, 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Sawtooth Spartan
Do we really have to keep rehashing this?
1. Fox's ratings are higher because there's only one TV outlet for the angry, doughy, 55-plus, tighty righties. The other 80 percent of the viewers are spread out among the objective news networks.
2. The more intelligent people are, the less TV they watch. Hence, higher ratings for right-wing TV like Fox.
Bottom line: Even O'Reilly's show only has about 1 in 200-plus Americans watching. Hardly a sign of overwhelming popularity.
Much as you righties want to think Fox's ratings suggest mainstream thinking, it just doesn't add up. And methinks you know it.
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It isn't about Fox. CNN also whoops MSNBC's ass on a daily basis. Do you have a problem with CNN now?
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05-24-2008, 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by TurboSpartan
It isn't about Fox. CNN also whoops MSNBC's ass on a daily basis. Do you have a problem with CNN now?
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No problem with CNN. It is a network unto itself that has been around much longer, and is available in more places.
MSNBC is merely part of the NBC empire.
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