Just checking in - are us US Americans now supposed to be opposed to unprovoked invasions?

[tuff bob]

Originally Posted by GRR Spartan

Invasion is only alright if its in the best interests of the corporations that support administrations..

I thought we were in Iraq because of oil. Russia has oil, lots of it! Let's go get it!

[SpartanStu]

Originally Posted by Feckweed

so you are anti-immigration? Isn't the cheap labor they are providing beneficial to our economy?

I am Anti-illegal Imigration.

No, cheap illegal labor is not beneficial to our economy.

Just ask California

[Feckweed]

Originally Posted by SpartanStu

I am Anti-illegal Imigration.

No, cheap illegal labor is not beneficial to our economy.

You made no mention of legal status in your example and of course that has no bearing on the topic here....here's something to chew on


"The study also showed that immigrants tend to be just as entrepreneurial as Americans.
Approximately 11 percent of all immigrants are self-employed compared to 13 percent of Americans.
Cubans are the most entrepreneurial, with 17.3 percent of that community being self employed."

[SpartanStu]

Originally Posted by Feckweed

You made no mention of legal status in your example and of course that has no bearing on the topic here....here's something to chew on


"The study also showed that immigrants tend to be just as entrepreneurial as Americans.
Approximately 11 percent of all immigrants are self-employed compared to 13 percent of Americans.
Cubans are the most entrepreneurial, with 17.3 percent of that community being self employed."

Oh, Im sorry, I thought your "brilliant inferrence" would understand that Cubans on a boat is illegal immigration.

[Feckweed]

Originally Posted by SpartanStu

Oh, Im sorry, I thought your "brilliant inferrence" would understand that Cubans on a boat is illegal immigration.

How else do Cubans get here?

Either way, it's not proving your point...you make it sound as though the US becoming a trading partner for Cuba all of a sudden brings properity to the entire nation

[tuff bob]

Originally Posted by Feckweed

How else do Cubans get here?

legal immigration. see "dry foot" policy.

[Feckweed]

Originally Posted by tuff bob

legal immigration. see "dry foot" policy.

Yes, one who makes it to shore has a chance to remain in the US by qualifying for legal permanent residence....thanks for showing that it's possible to take a boat to the US and become a legal resident

[Feckweed]

Hey Stu, last time I checked Mexico and the US have trade relations, so how come that hasn't stopped the wave of illegals from mexico

[SpartanStu]

Originally Posted by Feckweed

Hey Stu, last time I checked Mexico and the US have trade relations, so how come that hasn't stopped the wave of illegals from mexico

Now you are gonna bring another nation into this? Just stop.

[Enrico Palazzo]

Originally Posted by Feckweed

They are the people that have so much respect for the US so as to not stop supplying us with oil

oh, you mean the monarchy whose ass we protect militarily? Or whose government bailed out Bush's failing Harkin Oil?


What is far more disturbing is the relationship between the Bush family and the ruling family and oil sheiks of Saudi Arabia that can be traced back decades.

Of course, there is this clearly showing disrespect towards the US.

The hand clasp with the oil kingdom's 81-year-old de facto ruler had two objectives: a break from recent record-high world oil prices, and a message of U.S. support for the Saudi royal family as it faces a growing internal terrorist threat.

[Feckweed]

Originally Posted by Enrico Palazzo

oh, you mean the monarchy whose ass we protect militarily? Or whose government bailed out Bush's failing Harkin Oil?


What is far more disturbing is the relationship between the Bush family and the ruling family and oil sheiks of Saudi Arabia that can be traced back decades.

Of course, there is this clearly showing disrespect towards the US.

The hand clasp with the oil kingdom's 81-year-old de facto ruler had two objectives: a break from recent record-high world oil prices, and a message of U.S. support for the Saudi royal family as it faces a growing internal terrorist threat.

Ok fine so I'll include you as one of the liberals ( maybe the only one ) who doesn't believe the Saudi gov't funds terrorism. I'm sure I could go back and check your posts that might contradict this, but instead I'll just refer you to Venezuela

[Fletch]

Originally Posted by Fletch

Are you really so ignorant that you don't understand the basic reasons that mutual respect amongst nations might be beneficial to both?

Feckweed, you could have saved us all a lot of time in this thread by just being honest and saying "Yes, I really am that ignorant." Instead, you used 8-10 more posts to prove it.

[Feckweed]

Originally Posted by SpartanStu

Now you are gonna bring another nation into this? Just stop.

Nope, just showing you have no basis in your claim that Cuba becoming a US trade partner would slow down the flow of illegal immigrants...but I do like your example of the benefit to the US...we'd have less Cubans to deal with

racist

[Feckweed]

Originally Posted by Fletch

Feckweed, you could have saved us all a lot of time in this thread by just being honest and saying "Yes, I really am that ignorant." Instead, you used 8-10 more posts to prove it.

I noticed you failed to answer my question to back your claim.

[Al Czervik]

Fletch brings it strong once again.

And, you can argue the Russkies were 100x more justified in doing what they did as (A) An issue with a bordering country is much more important to their national security than ours with a country thousands of miles away and (B) Georgia started it.

[Feckweed]

Originally Posted by Al Czervik

Fletch brings it strong once again.

And, you can argue the Russkies were 100x more justified in doing what they did as (A) An issue with a bordering country is much more important to their national security than ours with a country thousands of miles away and (B) Georgia started it.

" In an action U.S. officials consider a violation of the recently-passed U.N. Security Council resolution, Iraq fired surface-to-air missiles and anti-aircraft guns at American and British warplanes patrolling a "no-fly" zone."

[Vlad_the_Impaler]

Originally Posted by Feckweed

Then it would be justified...but they aren't, so it ain't

But couldn't they just make up "intelligence" that Georgia has WMD, like we did???

[Feckweed]

Originally Posted by Vlad_the_Impaler

But couldn't they just make up "intelligence" that Georgia has WMD, like we did???

Sure they could have made up intelligence, but they didn't. Does your point have something to do with Sadaam Hussein getting called out on his bluff? I'm sure if the Georgian president wanted everybody to believe they were manufacturing WMD's the international community might think differently of the incursion

[tjmania]

Originally Posted by tuff bob

I thought we were in Iraq because of oil. Russia has oil, lots of it! Let's go get it!

No we are in Iraq because they were a threat to America and that is a good cover to take their oil. Too bad everyone saw thru it and now we've spent more on a sensless war than 50 rounds of stimulus checks.

True Russia has lots oil, but Saudi Arabia has lots lots more. Why not just cut out the middle man and go get it? I mean they actually had a direct link to 9/11.

[Fletch]

Apparently, McCain was in Michigan yesterday and was asked about the conflict.

He said (paraphrasing since I heard it on the radio) "The 21st century is no time for unprovoked invasions."

[Vlad_the_Impaler]

Originally Posted by Feckweed

Sure they could have made up intelligence, but they didn't. Does your point have something to do with Sadaam Hussein getting called out on his bluff?

No, my point has something to do with the fact that no one could stop the US from invading Iraq back then, and now, no one can stop Russia from invading Georgia (or any other nation it so chooses).

The reason Russia didn't fabricate anything is because THEY DIDN'T NEED TO. The rules were changed...by the good ol' US of A.

[tjmania]

Could you imagine if there was a picture of Barack holding this POS's hand?

[Feckweed]

Originally Posted by tjmania

Could you imagine if there was a picture of Barack holding this POS's hand?