Just checking in - are us US Americans now supposed to be opposed to unprovoked invasions?

[Fletch]

What if the Russians are going after the people responsible for 9/11 like we were when we went into Iraq?

[Feckweed]

Then it would be justified...but they aren't, so it ain't

[SpartanStu]

Russia is justified, because they say they are.

We were justified to go to Iraq, after all, because we said we were. We had some sweet photoshoped evidence, faked letters, and aluminum tubes. Our President and his Chronie Administration didn't just lie to the American People, they lied to the rest of the world. We burned up all the respect earned from our closest allies. Our newest allies are going to be left out to dry because we are stuck in the sand. Lastly, we lost respect from Russia and China, not only because of our actions in the world, but because our economic engine has thrown a rod.

Those countries see our stumble as the perfect opportunity to move forward and expand their resources and power in the world.

The road to hell is paved with good intentions. Our war in Iraq has been a super highway on that path.

[Feckweed]

Originally Posted by SpartanStu

Russia is justified, because they say they are.

We were justified to go to Iraq, after all, because we said we were. We had some sweet photoshoped evidence, faked letters, and aluminum tubes. Our President and his Chronie Administration didn't just lie to the American People, they lied to the rest of the world. We burned up all the respect earned from our closest allies. Our newest allies are going to be left out to dry because we are stuck in the sand. Lastly, we lost respect from Russia and China, not only because of our actions in the world, but because our economic engine has thrown a rod.

Those countries see our stumble as the perfect opportunity to move forward and expand their resources and power in the world.

The road to hell is paved with good intentions. Our war in Iraq has been a super highway on that path.

I love reading all you loons profess about this supposed loss of respect from countries like China and Russia...as if you personally know this, but even more to the point who the f cares if we don't have the respect of those countries..do you respect China and Russia?

[Fletch]

Originally Posted by Feckweed

I love reading all you loons profess about this supposed loss of respect from countries like China and Russia...as if you personally know this, but even more to the point who the f cares if we don't have the respect of those countries..do you respect China and Russia?

Are you really so ignorant that you don't understand the basic reasons that mutual respect amongst nations might be beneficial to both?

[Feckweed]

Originally Posted by Fletch

Are you really so ignorant that you don't understand the basic reasons that mutual respect amongst nations might be beneficial to both?

Feel free to explain how respect amongst Cuba and US is beneficial to the US

[TheDoctorIsIn]

Originally Posted by Feckweed

Feel free to explain how respect amongst Cuba and US is beneficial to the US

So you replaced China and Russia with Cuba?


Cowboy politics just doesn't work anymore. The world is too small.

[GRR Spartan]

Invasion is only alright if its in the best interests of the corporations that support administrations.

Most of the neo-cons who post here haven't figured out Russia isn't pushing a socialist /communist agenda, they are pushing a captitalistic oligarchy based on natural resources. They also haven't figured out Putin is an amoral individual who really doesn't care if 2000 civilians just lost their lives to the invading Russian Army or 100,000's of Europeans lives are at risk if he shut off the natural gas pipelines. Putin just wants to increase the Russian oil / energy based oligarchy.

[Feckweed]

Originally Posted by TheDoctorIsIn

So you replaced China and Russia with Cuba?


Cowboy politics just doesn't work anymore. The world is too small.

Guess you didn't notice that he referred to any nation..

But go ahead and feel to give examples of China and Russia if you choose. So if China "respected" the US again, how is that beneficial to the US

[TheDoctorIsIn]

Originally Posted by Feckweed

Guess you didn't notice that he referred to any nation..

But go ahead and feel to give examples of China and Russia if you choose. So if China "respected" the US again, how is that beneficial to the US

If Russia respected the US, there wouldn't be a war in Georgia right now.

If two very powerful countries respected the US, we wouldn't need war against sovereign nations. We'd be able to apply more pressure diplomatically than our military ever could.

There are huge interests in keeping close relations with other large nations, even if you don't completely agree with them.

Cowboy politics, no more.

[Feckweed]

Originally Posted by TheDoctorIsIn

If Russia respected the US, there wouldn't be a war in Georgia right now.

If two very powerful countries respected the US, we wouldn't need war against sovereign nations. We'd be able to apply more pressure diplomatically than our military ever could.

There are huge interests in keeping close relations with other large nations, even if you don't completely agree with them.

Cowboy politics, no more.

So the Balkan countries didn't respect the US during the Clinton administration? I thought respect was lost during the Bush administration, not the Clinton

But nice example, by your example you are also claiming that Russia doesn't respect...gasp...France???? Or any other Euro country for that matter. how could this be???

[SpartanStu]

Originally Posted by Feckweed

Guess you didn't notice that he referred to any nation..

But go ahead and feel to give examples of China and Russia if you choose. So if China "respected" the US again, how is that beneficial to the US

Feckweed, you are the only one who mentioned "any nation". Fletch didn't, I didn't. You did...

[Feckweed]

and you guys are contradicting yourselves....I thought Russia only chose to invade because the US set this precedent? How can a country attempt to emulate another but not respect them

[Feckweed]

Originally Posted by SpartanStu

****, You are the only one who mentioned "any nation". Fletch didn't, I didn't. You did...

"Are you really so ignorant that you don't understand the basic reasons that mutual respect amongst nations might be beneficial to both?"

learn to read

[SpartanStu]

Originally Posted by Feckweed

and you guys are contradicting yourselves....I thought Russia only chose to invade because the US set this precedent? How can a country attempt to emulate another but not respect them

This is not a sign of respect. If your neighbor came home tonight and said "hey I was just at the gas station and filled up the tank and drove off with out paying." would you respect them for their action? and would you go up to the station and do it yourself because you did respect them?

Originally Posted by Feckweed

"Are you really so ignorant that you don't understand the basic reasons that mutual respect amongst nations might be beneficial to both?"

learn to read

Learn to comprehend what you read.

You inferred it pertained to a nation like Cuba. Cuba wasnt part of the dicussion until you mentioned them.

The ignorance is yours. You have a limited capacity for itelectual thought. Because of it you dont understand world events.

[Enrico Palazzo]

Originally Posted by Feckweed

Guess you didn't notice that he referred to any nation..

But go ahead and feel to give examples of China and Russia if you choose. So if China "respected" the US again, how is that beneficial to the US

considering they basically own most of our economy I'd say that's a problem if they don't respect us. If Russia doesn't respect us then there is a strong supplier of oil we no longer have.

Let's not forget many of these nations are important trade partners with us. Embargos would not be a good thing for our already broken economy.

[Feckweed]

Originally Posted by SpartanStu

This is not a sign of respect. If your neighbor came home tonight and said "hey I was just at the gas station and filled up the tank and drove off with out paying." would you respect them for their action? and would you go up to the station and do it yourself because you did respect them?



Learn to comprehend what you read.

You inferred it pertained to a nation like Cuba. Cuba wasnt part of the dicussion until you mentioned them.

The ignorance is yours. You have a limited capacity for itelectual thought. Because of it you dont understand world events.

He didn't specify a nation, so I inferred he meant ALL nations, so I chose a specific one. It's pretty simple, not surprising you can't grasp it. I specifically chose Cuba because as evidenced by all the defensiveness going on it's all but impossible to come up with an example

[G Norm Oosdyk]

Originally Posted by Fletch

Are you really so ignorant that you don't understand the basic reasons that mutual respect amongst nations might be beneficial to both?

Look at what its done for tRCMB!

[Feckweed]

Originally Posted by Enrico Palazzo

considering they basically own most of our economy I'd say that's a problem if they don't respect us. If Russia doesn't respect us then there is a strong supplier of oil we no longer have.

Let's not forget many of these nations are important trade partners with us. Embargos would not be a good thing for our already broken economy.

Yeah, because the Saudie's respect us soooooo much