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The next time one of you namby pamby bleeding heart liberals wants to spout off that the death penalty doesn't deter murders - remember the family of this 29 year police officer.
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Member of 'Texas Seven' Executed
WASHINGTON (AFP) - Texas authorities executed a 45-year-old man on Thursday who had dropped all appeals and asked for his death sentence to go ahead, state officials said.
Michael Rodriguez, 45, was declared dead at 6:20 pm (2320 GMT) after receiving a lethal injection at the Huntsville prison, the state Department of Criminal Justice said in a statement.
Rodriguez was one of the "Texas Seven," a group of inmates who escaped from a high security prison in Texas in 2000 and killed a police officer. He was convicted of taking part in the murder.
Prior to his escape, he had faced life in prison for having ordered the killing of his wife.
Minutes before he was put to death, he apologized for his crimes, according to a transcript of his last words.
"I am so, so sorry. My punishment is nothing compared to the pain and suffering I have caused. I hope someday you can find peace," Rodriguez said.
"I am ready to go Lord."
During more than a month on the run in Texas and Colorado, the "Texas Seven" carried out several robberies, including one at a sports shop on Christmas Eve. The group shot dead a 29-year-old police officer outside the store.
Six of the escaped convicts were arrested a short time later in January 2001 in Colorado, while a seventh convict committed suicide.
Rodriguez is the first of the group to be executed.
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if it is such a detriment wouldn't it have prevented those 7 men from committing the crime in the first place?
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Unlike the markets, past performance is truly a solid indicator of future performance when it comes to the ongoing stupidity spewn by Bullwrinkle on this board.
The next time one of you namby pamby bleeding heart liberals wants to spout off that the death penalty doesn't deter murders - remember the family of this 29 year police officer.
How did the death penalty deter the death of the 29 year old police officer?
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if it is such a detriment wouldn't it have prevented those 7 men from committing the crime in the first place?
It will prevent them from ever doing it again.
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Please explain to all of us the "logic" you used to somehow arrive at the conclusion that this story or how the execution of the murderer in it is going to act as a deterrent to other potential murderers.
BTW, I have no problem with the death penalty. I just want you to explain the logic behind your post which seems to be, once again, sadly lacking.
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1) it cost more than prison
2) it kills innocent people
3) it's hypocritical for a society to say murder is bad...uh, if they condone murder
4) I would almost say it encourages people to do whatever it takes to not get caught (i.e. kill ppl)
BTW, I think this Rodriguez character has been "deterred".
But if you fail to escape, you may be put in solitary. Which to me would be worse than death. Days pass and you see no one, do nothing....yeah good times.
I'm not a biblical scholar, but isn't one of the 10 Commandments "thou shalt not kill"?
or does god make an exception if it's government sponsored murder??
Common misinterpretation. The commandment is "thou shalt not committ murder". Quite a difference between the two. Killing a murderer is not murder in and of itself, it's justice.
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Please explain to all of us the "logic" you used to somehow arrive at the conclusion that this story or how the execution of the murderer in it is going to act as a deterrent to other potential murderers.
BTW, I have no problem with the death penalty. I just want you to explain the logic behind your post which seems to be, once again, sadly lacking.
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So does prison.
What's worse, dying or living a life behind bars getting stabbed and ****ed up the ass?
If prison doesn't deter you, the death penaly won't either.
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Here's all the neat graphs and stats on that Bullwrinkle.
Common misinterpretation. The commandment is "thou shalt not committ murder". Quite a difference between the two. Killing a murderer is not murder in and of itself, it's justice.
okay - so injecting sodium thiopenthal into the vein is not murder??
Wow I reeled in my limit on this one. 73 - see if you can follow along just for once.
The guy was sentenced to life in prison for murder - however he escaped and killed a police officer.
Had he been sentenced to death and executed - he would not have killed said police officer.
Hence - the death penalty would have been a 100% deterrent against him killing anyone else.
Class dismissed - Glad you all learned something today.
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(d-tūr) v.de·terred, de·ter·ring, de·ters v.tr. To prevent or discourage from acting, as by means of fear or doubt: "Does negotiated disarmament deter war?"Edward Teller. See Synonyms at dissuade.
v.intr.
To prevent or discourage the occurrence of an action, as by means of fear or doubt: "It's this edge that gives nuclear weapons their power to deter"Thomas Powers.
OBVIOUSLY, the death penalty struck neither FEAR NOR DOUBT into Mr Rodriquez as he committed the crime full knowing he could be killed.
Maybe you should have used a different word, einstein.
Nope - when he was executed he was officially and pemanently "discouraged" from killing anyone else. Semantics won't save you on this one.
(d-tūr) v.de·terred, de·ter·ring, de·ters v.tr. To prevent or discourage from acting, as by means of fear or doubt: "Does negotiated disarmament deter war?"Edward Teller. See Synonyms at dissuade.
v.intr.
To prevent or discourage the occurrence of an action, as by means of fear or doubt: "It's this edge that gives nuclear weapons their power to deter"Thomas Powers.
OBVIOUSLY, the death penalty struck neither FEAR NOR DOUBT into Mr Rodriquez as he committed the crime full knowing he could be killed.
Maybe you should have used a different word, einstein.
Nope - when he was executed he was officially and pemanently "discouraged" from killing anyone else. Semantics won't save you on this one.
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The guy was sentenced to life in prison for murder - however he escaped and killed a police officer.
Had he been sentenced to death and executed - he would not have killed said police officer.
Had there been better security at the prison, he would not have killed said police officer.
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okay - so injecting sodium thiopenthal into the vein is not murder??
I'm guessing that it would be considered to be the administration of justice as decided by the great people of the Republic of Texas.
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