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Old 08-23-2008, 05:02 PM   #101 (permalink)
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Coming from someone I respect so much, that really hurts.
Given your sparkling track record on Obama and the "misunderstood" Rev. Wright, what other conclusion is there to draw?

Seriously - there were many good choices he could have made - I've been on record many times that if he picked Bill Richardson - this election would have been over. Instead he picks one of the biggest blowhard buffoons in the Senate, I guy who loves to hear himself talk, although the Dem rank and file obviously don't based on his sparkling showing in the Dem primaries.

Wait a second - a pompous windbag with a history of gaffes and blunders - no wonder you like Biden - you two have so much in common.
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Old 08-23-2008, 05:58 PM   #103 (permalink)
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I haven't seen this posted yet. The other Democratic candidates all think Biden's pretty sharp:

"Obama isn't qualified to be president" -Joe Biden

"Joe is right" - Hillary, Edwards and Obama himself



Seriously, Hillary knew Biden had no shot against her, why is she going to dog him? Same with the rest of the crew. Show me some republicans that think Biden is right. Or a foreign leader for that matter.
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Old 08-23-2008, 06:01 PM   #104 (permalink)
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Given your sparkling track record on Obama and the "misunderstood" Rev. Wright, what other conclusion is there to draw?
Thanks for reminding me of another sparkling moment in your posting history: criticizing me several times for something we completely agreed on. It wasn't as good as your Huckabee post or your deterrent thread, but it was pretty funny. You really do provide some humor to this board.


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Seriously - there were many good choices he could have made - I've been on record many times that if he picked Bill Richardson - this election would have been over. Instead he picks one of the biggest blowhard buffoons in the Senate, I guy who loves to hear himself talk, although the Dem rank and file obviously don't based on his sparkling showing in the Dem primaries.
Sure, Wrinkle. I know that if Richardson were chosen, Limbaugh and Hannity would be calling him the most liberal/socialist/baby-killing/America-hating governor ever - and, like a good little dittohead, you'd agree.


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Wait a second - a pompous windbag with a history of gaffes and blunders - no wonder you like Biden - you two have so much in common.
Stupid people often think of intelligent people as pompous. You're not breaking new ground here.
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"Obama isn't qualified to be president" -Joe Biden

"Joe is right" - Hillary, Edwards and Obama himself



Seriously, Hillary knew Biden had no shot against her, why is she going to dog him? Same with the rest of the crew. Show me some republicans that think Biden is right. Or a foreign leader for that matter.
Your hatred for Obama is well-documented, under both "Todd Farkman" and "Last Post" identities. It doesn't really matter to you if Obama chose Biden, Hillary, or Dick Cheney. People can agree or disagree with Obama's policies, but you've been very candid in your opposition to his skin color. There are white people in this race, so go pick one to vote for.
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"Obama isn't qualified to be president" -Joe Biden

"Joe is right" - Hillary, Edwards and Obama.
Actually, that'd be fairly entertaining to see. I can't help but think and hope that the same old lines on both sides wear thin by October, though. Thank you Barack, we know that McCain is like Bush. Thank you John, we know that Obama is new kid on the block and that people seem to like him. Give us something new.
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Your hatred for Obama is well-documented, under both "Todd Farkman" and "Last Post" identities. It doesn't really matter to you if Obama chose Biden, Hillary, or Dick Cheney. People can agree or disagree with Obama's policies, but you've been very candid in your opposition to his skin color. There are white people in this race, so go pick one to vote for.
Not really, if Obama had picked a smart candidate I'd have said so. A smart pick IMHO, would be someone that I didn't know very well from a state Obama needs votes in. That would have been a smart pick.

You have to admit that after all the things Biden said about Obama, this is the dumbest choice he could have made, aside from that Reverend in Illinois.
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Actually, that'd be fairly entertaining to see. I can't help but think and hope that the same old lines on both sides wear thin by October, though. Thank you Barack, we know that McCain is like Bush. Thank you John, we know that Obama is new kid on the block and that people seem to like him. Give us something new.
I don't see anything happening that is relevant between now and election day.

What do you hope to see instead? Lies and more lies about what they will and won't do, how much they love every special interest group more than their opponent does, etc. etc.??

At least this is entertaining.
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I don't see anything happening that is relevant between now and election day.

What do you hope to see instead? Lies and more lies about what they will and won't do, how much they love every special interest group more than their opponent does, etc. etc.??

At least this is entertaining.
I think I've ODed on media saturation. Constantly sifting through the bull that is the election and the bull that is Wells Hall has overdone it.

As far as something new, college football is back next weekend. And not a minute too soon.
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Not really, if Obama had picked a smart candidate I'd have said so. A smart pick IMHO, would be someone that I didn't know very well from a state Obama needs votes in. That would have been a smart pick.
I'd rather have someone that people know and respect who plays well in Pennsylvania, Ohio, and Indiana, and also helps Obama with older voters.


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You have to admit that after all the things Biden said about Obama, this is the dumbest choice he could have made, aside from that Reverend in Illinois.
I can't admit that, as I was pro-Biden before the choice was made. Biden's comments about Obama won't have much impact, and they'll be completely negated if McCain chooses Romney. Even when Biden said he didn't think Obama was ready to be president, Biden added that he thought Obama could be ready. It's really a non-issue.

All along, I hoped Obama would choose someone who would make a good president. I'd be very comfortable with Biden in the White House, more so than with any of the other top V.P. candidates.
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Jack, it's funny that you make fun of Biden for his op-ed, when they've pointed out ON FOX NEWS that his exact scenario is almost point for point what has actually transpired in Iraq, and what is helping the stability of the country. It wasn't enumerated like he said, but that's what's happened on the ground.

Maybe Biden really does take the time to understand the dynamics on the ground in foreign countries-- something that's been sorely lacking in DC for the past 8 years.

I'm ok with the pick.
You've completely misunderstood my "". I'm disgusted by folks like oscar who blindly rip Biden's position w/o really understanding what it is ... I posted the actual plan for oscar to absorb, unfortunately, to no avail. oscar knew what I meant.

I think Biden's a great pick, and if you do a search, even within this thread, I've expressed my support for a long time.
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Sure, Wrinkle. I know that if Richardson were chosen, Limbaugh and Hannity would be calling him the most liberal/socialist/baby-killing/America-hating governor ever - and, like a good little dittohead, you'd agree.

So Obama allows his fear of Rush and Hannity to affect his choice of Veep?

Jacko - who else but you could come up with such brilliance.
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So Obama allows his fear of Rush and Hannity to affect his choice of Veep?

Jacko - who else but you could come up with such brilliance.
It's almost like you want to embarrass yourself. Rush and Hannity will say the same thing about any Democratic candidate, and you'll believe them. Those two were already bellowing about Biden this week, so Obama was obviously not basing his decision on their opinions.
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It's almost like you want to embarrass yourself. Rush and Hannity will say the same thing about any Democratic candidate, and you'll believe them. Those two were already bellowing about Biden this week, so Obama was obviously not basing his decision on their opinions.
So you brought up Rush and Hannity for no reason as according to you they had no bearing on the decision. Just decided to throw that in to prove your non-point?

So now that you cleared that up for all of us - let's return to the issue. Instead of making an innovative and groundbreaking selection for VEEP and one that would have helped the ticket - instead "change you can believe in" means selecting one of the most pompous windbags around - a 35 year Senate lifer who is such a blowhard he almost makes Gore and Kerry seem listenable in comparison.

But Jacko thinks this is a good selection. With friends like you - Obama don't need anymore enemies.
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Bully needs to go to emoticon aversion training. Poor guy can't post anything without using them attempting to put down others.

Maybe a vocabulary course would help?

Get used to it. The true believer GOP voters would be bashing any person Obama had chosen. To far left, too little experience, no business experience, from a state that doesn't matter, too much like Obama.

When McCain makes his pick it will be the same way. Both campaign are being run by pro's who's job is to have their guy get 270 electoral votes.
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When you are from Arkansas you look out for WalMart and Tyson, from Connecticut its insurance companies, Iowa its John Deere, IN its Eli Lillie, PA used to be steel now Big Pharma, Texas its Big Oil, Florida its tourism, California its entertainment and high tech.

When you are from Delaware you look out for DuPont.

Like Tip O'Neill said, "All politics are local."
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Bully needs to go to emoticon aversion training. Poor guy can't post anything without using them attempting to put down others.

Maybe a vocabulary course would help?

Get used to it. The true believer GOP voters would be bashing any person Obama had chosen. To far left, too little experience, no business experience, from a state that doesn't matter, too much like Obama.

When McCain makes his pick it will be the same way. Both campaign are being run by pro's who's job is to have their guy get 270 electoral votes.
Hey you've actually made a post that had something to do with the topic for a change.

Since you apparently jump in without reading or comprehending much - I'll repeat myself again. There were many good choices Obama could have made that would actually have been a refreshing change from the usual Senate retreads. Sibelius, Richardson, etc.... who also would have helped Obama in the election. Biden is a dud, and worse than that he is a gaffe prone blowhard that sooner or later will cause nothing but embarrassment for Obama.

As for McCain - if he picks another white male stuffed shirt to console the "conservative base" I'll rip him for that too.
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[quote=GRR Spartan;4992225]When you are from Arkansas you look out for WalMart and Tyson, from Connecticut its insurance companies, Iowa its John Deere, IN its Eli Lillie, PA used to be steel now Big Pharma, Texas its Big Oil, Florida its tourism, California its entertainment and high tech.

When you are from Delaware you look out for DuPont.

Like Tip O'Neill said, "All politics are local."[/quote]

That may have been true in Boston when he said it. Most US multinational corporations (50% of all publicly traded companies and 60% of the Fortune 500) are incorporated in Delaware.

As Alexander Cockburn puts it:

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The first duty of any senator from Delaware is to do the bidding of the banks and large corporations which use the tiny state as a drop box and legal sanctuary. Biden has never failed his masters in this primary task. Find any bill that sticks it to the ordinary folk on behalf of the Money Power and you’ll likely detect Biden’s hand at work. The bankruptcy act of 2005 was just one sample. In concert with his fellow corporate serf, Senator Tom Carper, Biden blocked all efforts to hinder bankrupt corporations from fleeing from their real locations to the legal sanctuary of Delaware. Since Obama is himself a corporate serf and from day one in the US senate has been attentive to the same masters that employ Biden, the ticket is well balanced, the seesaw with Obama at one end and Biden at the other dead-level on the fulcrum of corporate capital.
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When you are from Arkansas you look out for WalMart and Tyson, from Connecticut its insurance companies, Iowa its John Deere, IN its Eli Lillie, PA used to be steel now Big Pharma, Texas its Big Oil, Florida its tourism, California its entertainment and high tech.

When you are from Delaware you look out for DuPont.

Like Tip O'Neill said, "All politics are local."[/quote]

That may have been true in Boston when he said it. Most US multinational corporations (50% of all publicly traded companies and 60% of the Fortune 500) are incorporated in Delaware.

As Alexander Cockburn puts it:
no, hope and change, but what about bush2?? Barak is for us! not only the U.S, but for the world, he is the mix of jfk and MLK. Barck will save us all from evil bush.
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The first duty of any senator from Delaware is to do the bidding of the banks and large corporations which use the tiny state as a drop box and legal sanctuary. Biden has never failed his masters in this primary task. Find any bill that sticks it to the ordinary folk on behalf of the Money Power and you’ll likely detect Biden’s