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08-26-2008, 08:15 PM
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Demm anger message 'Turn your pain against McCain'
Again, listening to CNN today (in the car on Satellite). I hear this new slogan being spouted off by a demm spokesperson. The demm slogan is 'Turn your pain against McCain" I can't help but think this shows how demms view things..always invested in misery and anger. Where the hope? Where's the love? Anger is what they are about.
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08-26-2008, 08:22 PM
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It's always someone's else fault and Big Brother will always be there with a hand out for you and everyone else.
I'm in so much pain too. I mean it's like I went out and purchased a house I normally could not afford years ago thanks to a no money down interest only adjustable rate. And then month and month as "my equity" exploded I would have been a fool not to raid the HELOC and buy Hummers, spinners, plasma TVs, designer clothes, Big Macs and the gas and energy to keep it all running.
Now that that HELOC, Visa and MSUFCU personal loans are all maxed out, I have no where else to turn. Please bail me out Goverment before I go under!
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08-26-2008, 08:35 PM
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We should always trust corporations to govern themselves.
The GOP loves those bootstrap stories but they really don't want too many folks to have boots.
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08-26-2008, 09:39 PM
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Obama for Dalai Lama! Obama for Dalai Lama! Obama for Dalai Lama!
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08-26-2008, 10:16 PM
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Its the corporations fault (the shareholders too), and the Military-Industrial Complex, and financial speculators/arbitrage crowd, and crooked CEO's. Hedge Fund dudes too!
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08-27-2008, 12:04 AM
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Originally Posted by lars
Again, listening to CNN today (in the car on Satellite). I hear this new slogan being spouted off by a demm spokesperson. The demm slogan is 'Turn your pain against McCain" I can't help but think this shows how demms view things..always invested in misery and anger. Where the hope? Where's the love? Anger and getting handouts are what they are about.
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08-27-2008, 12:06 AM
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We should always trust corporations to govern themselves.
The GOP loves those bootstrap stories but they really don't want too many folks to have boots.
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Whilst the Demms pull out a few anecdotes of abuse and think it is all-encompassing reality.
How's the depression that we are in - is it threatening to through the world into a meltdown, yet? Or, perhaps, we are already in a global meltdown, too?
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08-27-2008, 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted by G Norm Oosdyk
How's the depression that we are in - is it threatening to through the world into a meltdown, yet? Or, perhaps, we are already in a global meltdown, too? 
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You tell us. How is the world economy at the moment?
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08-27-2008, 12:09 AM
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You tell us. How is the world economy at the moment?
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Growing. Not in depression.
What's your take?
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08-27-2008, 12:11 AM
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Growing. Not in depression.
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My financial guy said its not. Asked him recently, as the US dollar has been so weak, I figured Euros must be doing well... not the case he says, the world economy is struggling.
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08-27-2008, 12:29 AM
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My financial guy said its not. Asked him recently, as the US dollar has been so weak, I figured Euros must be doing well... not the case he says, the world economy is struggling.
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Really. So.... not performing at its world record best = depression?
Think about it. Oil prices surged due to political instability. How do you think that countries will fare? At record levels? We are in a time of transition from a time when the U.S. carried the growing economies on its back. We are now transitioning into a more sustainable global economy, i.e. one in which the U.S. gets some of its manufacturing back due to a lower currency.
Europe is now struggling with carrying its fair share of the world economy load with it strengthened currency.
I'd say that struggling - let alone depression - is too strong of a word.
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08-27-2008, 12:44 AM
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My financial guy said its not. Asked him recently, as the US dollar has been so weak, I figured Euros must be doing well... not the case he says, the world economy is struggling.
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Don't tell China or India.  And to some US businesses, a weaker dollar means they have a competitive advantage in selling to overseas markets.
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08-27-2008, 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by lars
Again, listening to CNN today (in the car on Satellite). I hear this new slogan being spouted off by a demm spokesperson. The demm slogan is 'Turn your pain against McCain" I can't help but think this shows how demms view things..always invested in misery and anger. Where the hope? Where's the love? Anger is what they are about.
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After 8 years of bu$h mismanagment and bungling, many people should be angry. If you're not, you're either a rightie lemming, or one of the 20% who still approve of the job Dumbya is doing.
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I swear, the worst thing about religion is that it gives ordinarily good people an excuse to do bad things because they can simply shrug their shoulders and pin the blame on God.
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08-27-2008, 02:19 PM
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After 8 years of bu$h mismanagment and bungling, many people should be angry. If you're not, you're either a rightie lemming, or one of the 20% who still approve of the job Dumbya is doing. 
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And to think we could have opted for Kerry bungling and John Edwards porking amateur documentary film makers.
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08-27-2008, 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Ocens11
My financial guy said its not. Asked him recently, as the US dollar has been so weak, I figured Euros must be doing well... not the case he says, the world economy is struggling.
Don't tell China or India.  And to some US businesses, a weaker dollar means they have a competitive advantage in selling to overseas markets.
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This is a typical Demm world, i.e. there are not winners and losers, just losers and bigger losers.
Sort of like Hillary and Obama and the Eeyore.
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08-27-2008, 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by G Norm Oosdyk
This is a typical Demm world, i.e. there are not winners and losers, just losers and bigger losers.
Sort of like Hillary and Obama and the Eeyore.

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I swear, the worst thing about religion is that it gives ordinarily good people an excuse to do bad things because they can simply shrug their shoulders and pin the blame on God.
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08-28-2008, 12:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Nommad
After 8 years of bu$h mismanagment and bungling, many people should be angry. If you're not, you're either a rightie lemming, or one of the 20% who still approve of the job Dumbya is doing. 
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What do I have to be angry at Bush for? In the last eight years is he responsible for completing my degree at MSU? For landing a job right out of school? Earning a decent wage? Investing that wage? Making above average returns? Mortgaging the next 30 years at a fixed rate for property well within my means? Is he responsible for my current economic position which is strong and growing? Is he responsible for my charitable giving which granted could be more? Should he make me pay more taxes?
While I don't like the guy that much, I have no ill will towards him either.
Please let me know why as a Demm I should be angry?
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08-28-2008, 01:17 AM
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Originally Posted by lars
Again, listening to CNN today (in the car on Satellite). I hear this new slogan being spouted off by a demm spokesperson. The demm slogan is 'Turn your pain against McCain" I can't help but think this shows how demms view things..always invested in misery and anger. Where the hope? Where's the love? Anger is what they are about.
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Republicans have a monopoly on hope and love.
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08-28-2008, 01:20 AM
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He is a very loving husband, father and man.
Your blinded by hate filled politics.
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Republicans have a monopoly on hope and love.
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08-28-2008, 01:25 AM
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He is a very loving husband, father and man.
Your blinded by hate filled politics.
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08-28-2008, 01:49 AM
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What do I have to be angry at Bush for? In the last eight years is he responsible for completing my degree at MSU? For landing a job right out of school? Earning a decent wage? Investing that wage? Making above average returns? Mortgaging the next 30 years at a fixed rate for property well within my means? Is he responsible for my current economic position which is strong and growing? Is he responsible for my charitable giving which granted could be more? Should he make me pay more taxes?
While I don't like the guy that much, I have no ill will towards him either.
Please let me know why as a Demm I should be angry? 
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His policies have fallen short of nirvana. Therefore anger, not being proud of America, and hate are the appropriate emotions.
P.S. It's not like we can deliver nirvana - or really deliver anything except payouts to voting niche groups - but that is beside the point.
Signed,
The Demms
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08-28-2008, 01:52 AM
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08-28-2008, 10:41 AM
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