Almost time for Obama to bring the thunder

[Super Nintendo Chalmers]

Am I wrong in thinking you're going to see the same show a week from now?

[LA_Spartan]

Originally Posted by PRStoetzer

This is just your typical left wing bull****. McCain can compete with this by actually discussing real, practical solutions to issues.

Especially when he talks about the real, practical solutions that he's proposed in his 26 years in DC.

[PRStoetzer]

Originally Posted by Cym Jim

This speech actually finally got me pissed off about Obama.

No way I want this jackass in the White House. I don't really like McCain and wasn't really going to do all that much to help him out other than vote if he doesn't pick Romney, but now he can pick Lieberman or even Hillary Clinton and I'll be down at the phone banks making calls.

**** Barack Obama.

[ErnieMcCracken]

Fireworks!

[Negotiator]

Originally Posted by PRStoetzer

This is just your typical left wing bull****. McCain can compete with this by actually discussing real, practical solutions to issues.

Wait, wait wait.... Politicians discuss real, practical solutions to things?

[caspper69]

Originally Posted by Negotiator

Did he just say 10 years to get off foreign oil dependency? McCain could knock him off balance with one word: "How?"

Notice he didn't say foreign oil. He said Middle Eastern oil. Smart.

[Floyd Robertson]

Originally Posted by Super Nintendo Chalmers

Am I wrong in thinking you're going to see the same show a week from now?

None whatsoever. I'm well on my way to believing it no longer matters who occupies the White House.

[Cym Jim]

Originally Posted by Super Nintendo Chalmers

Am I wrong in thinking you're going to see the same show a week from now?

Similar, but much more bland, fatigued, and uninspiring.

[Negotiator]

Originally Posted by caspper69

Notice he didn't say foreign oil. He said Middle Eastern oil. Smart.

I was wondering if I got that one right. For that matter, did he say "get us off of M.E. oil" or just end dependence on it? I mean, yes, right now, we're dependent on it. But what about not being crack-addict-dependent on it but still use some of it?

It will be interesting to overanalyze the GOP convention now, I'm fairly OD'ed on the DNC. This taking turns thing is boring.

[Mitch C.]

Originally Posted by Enrico Palazzo

My friends, wait until we see 10 minutes of John McCain as a POW if you want thick. My friends, you do realize he is a POW.

That was almost 40 years ago. I think he has been paid back with respect and votes enough over the years to more than pay him back for his service. What he endured doesn't give him the right to the Presidency or anyones vote.

You are an old school thinker, that stuff doesn't matter anymore to a voter with a brain.

[Super Nintendo Chalmers]

It really doesn't matter what any of you say, there's enough people in this country that won't vote for him because he's black, and that's all that matters

[caspper69]

Originally Posted by Negotiator

I was wondering if I got that one right. For that matter, did he say "get us off of M.E. oil" or just end dependence on it? I mean, yes, right now, we're dependent on it. But what about not being crack-addict-dependent on it but still use some of it?

It will be interesting to overanalyze the GOP convention now, I'm fairly OD'ed on the DNC. This taking turns thing is boring.

He said end dependence. Also just heard that the McCain camp has already released a point-by-point rebuttal. How predictable. Only took 5 minutes.

[Enrico Palazzo]

Originally Posted by Cym Jim

Similar, but much more bland, fatigued, and uninspiring.

Well, they just lost one night's theme with part, definitely the most dynamite part of the speech - a true knock out blow to the "with us or against us" GOP.

The times are too serious, the stakes are too high for this same partisan playbook. So let us agree that patriotism has no party. I love this country, and so do you, and so does John McCain. The men and women who serve in our battlefields may be Democrats and Republicans and Independents, but they have fought together and bled together and some died together under the same proud flag. They have not served a Red America or a Blue America - they have served the United States of America.
So I've got news for you, John McCain. We all put our country first.

[Mitch C.]

Originally Posted by Floyd Robertson

None whatsoever. I'm well on my way to believing it no longer matters who occupies the White House.

Never has. The President is a figurehead who can't enact a single law, the biggest impact the President has on the shape of this nation on his own is the Supreme Court, and that still has to get by the House and Senate.

[Cym Jim]

Originally Posted by Enrico Palazzo

Well, they just lost one night's theme with part, definitely the most dynamite part of the speech - a true knock out blow to the "with us or against us" GOP.

The times are too serious, the stakes are too high for this same partisan playbook. So let us agree that patriotism has no party. I love this country, and so do you, and so does John McCain. The men and women who serve in our battlefields may be Democrats and Republicans and Independents, but they have fought together and bled together and some died together under the same proud flag. They have not served a Red America or a Blue America - they have served the United States of America.
So I've got news for you, John McCain. We all put our country first.

[Cym Jim]

Come on danb - your Fox News hacks are reluctantly admitting that this was an amazing performance - look to the NRO for help, you must find some Ctrl-C worthy fodder here:

ELECTION 2008
Dems in Denver



THE EDITORS: Obama muzzles the media. “Barack Obama, Aspiring Commissar” 08/28 12:00 PM

KATHRYN JEAN LOPEZ: To appeal to dames, the Dems choose divisiveness and redistribution. “Aggrieved-Girl Power” 08/28 1:40 PM

DAVID BELLAVIA: This is a party whose leadership, for the first time in American history, is unified to stop a war in the midst of the fight. “Virtual Patriotism” 08/28 11:20 AM

DAVID FREDDOSO: Tonight, Obama will appeal to the moderates he threw under the bus five years ago. “Obama Repudiates the Moderates” 08/28 10:00 AM

WARD CONNERLY: Sen. Obama does not fully embrace the complete fulfillment of MLK’s dream “Senator Obama, You’re No King” 08/28 7:00 AM

RAMESH PONNURU: Obama’s champions just seem to have a hard time, for some reason, coming up with Obama accomplishments to brag about. “Mission Accomplishment” 08/28 8:00 AM

M. Z. HEMINGWAY: The Democrats’ 2008 platform debate might give an indication of how difficult it is to be pro-life in the party. “No Pro-life Party” 08/28 7:00 AM

JIM GERAGHTY: Are the convention speeches really helping Obama? “Sharp, Well-Delivered, and Yet No Help At All” 08/28 7:30 AM

MARK HEMINGWAY: Did Bill Clinton endorse Barack Obama? “That’s Bill!” 08/28 7:30 AM

BYRON YORK: Will Obama go for style or substance at Invesco? “Obama's Oratorical Trap” 08/27 12:23 PM

LOPEZ: Liberal activists are desperate to tighten their grip on the Supreme Court. “Wrestling over Judges” 08/27 11:30 AM

SHAWN MACOMBER: Republicans camp out in Denver. “Operation Thorn-in-Side” 08/27 7:30 AM

LOPEZ: Senator Casey provides shameful cover to a party that doesn’t have room for life leaders. “Like Father, Not Like Son” 08/27 10:30 AM

NRO at the DNC: Full Archive

[Floyd Robertson]

Originally Posted by Mitch C.

Never has. The President is a figurehead who can't enact a single law, the biggest impact the President has on the shape of this nation on his own is the Supreme Court, and that still has to get by the House and Senate.

Reagan had a huge impact on the world stage and it made a difference.

[Negotiator]

Originally Posted by Mitch C.

That was almost 40 years ago. I think he has been paid back with respect and votes enough over the years to more than pay him back for his service. What he endured doesn't give him the right to the Presidency or anyones vote.

You are an old school thinker, that stuff doesn't matter anymore to a voter with a brain.

Oh I think it certainly can matter. But in an odd sense it can feel like his campaign is guilt-tripping people into voting for him via that like it has been argued by some that Obama's campaign is guilt-tripping people via race.

I think the sticking point comes in when someone uses McCain's time as a POW to demonstrate his character but simultaneously argues that his affair should be discounted. Yes, the affair happened a long time ago, and people can change. By the same token, he was a POW an even longer time ago. I'm missing the distinction where a person can say "forget the faults but remember the praises" and to me at least sounds hollow.

[Mitch C.]

Originally Posted by LA_Spartan

If we want to attract better people to teaching, don't we have to offer higher salaries?

Teachers make plenty of money, I work with them daily. They enjoy outstanding benefits and retirement programs to boot. They are more about self-entitlement that any UAW union you could ever run across.

I have no sympathy for a teacher making $90K a year with a 100% healthcare plan they pay nothing towards, retiree healthcare and an pension.

[SpartanStu]

What an amazing speech! My emotions were SO hyped. I even teared up. That was a better speech than I ever heard Clinton perform.

I wonder who directed the coverage from the floor. Whoever it was....That was an oscar winning....ok really emmy winning...performance!

This episode was better at hyping my emotions than all the Extreme Home Makeovers I ever saw!

And then I remembered the line in my signature...

[Cym Jim]

Originally Posted by Mitch C.

I have no sympathy for a teacher making $90K a year with a 100% healthcare plan they pay nothing towards, retiree healthcare and an pension.

[Mitch C.]

Originally Posted by PRStoetzer

This is just your typical left wing bull****. McCain can compete with this by actually discussing real, practical solutions to issues.

Like I don't know anything about the economy, or the economy is doing well?

McCain can't even write a check to pay his electric bill.

[Enrico Palazzo]

Originally Posted by Mitch C.

Teachers make plenty of money, I work with them daily. They enjoy outstanding benefits and retirement programs to boot. They are more about self-entitlement that any UAW union you could ever run across.

I have no sympathy for a teacher making $90K a year with a 100% healthcare plan they pay nothing towards, retiree healthcare and an pension.

teachers making $90K? Whatever.

My sister made under $30K in MI. My father-in-law, as school board president, was told to give early retirement to any teacher making over $55K so they could hire a bunch of new college grads for under $30K. That's reality as the GOP continues to gut education funding. Most college professors don't make $90K.