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Old 09-03-2008, 07:19 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Question McCain furious that the media is "out to destroy" Palin

You know something? I heard Republicans talk over and over about this like they were getting cheat sheets ever since the pick was made.

I've never heard one Dem step in and rake her through the mud.

Republicans are making people think the media is out to destroy her. It is a great argument, you can't blame them for wanting to spin all the negative press on her. But it's not like the Democrats knocked up Palin's daughter, or was the little devil on "The first dude's" shoulders telling him to drink and drive.

It is, plain and simple, another way of manipulating people. No one can blame the media simply because it was the McCain camp who started the "poor me." As loud as they are blaring it...I wouldn't doubt it if there wasn't some other revelation about to come out.

But on the point of trying to rally women to her defense...we keep seeing the right blame the media.

It's pretty predictable. Any criticism is simply spun and not owned up to.

In a pinch? Talk about nothing...or repeat your point over and over.

In a jam? Claim executive privilege and play like rules don't apply to you.




No ****ing way the media isn't going to report on something the campaign releases about someone they know nothing about. Republicans got served this steaming pile of goo from John b/c the far right wouldn't go for a Lieberman or a Ridge. (Which is too bad).

And now, before it even started, they start bitching about the media.

It's beginning to sound like the same old ****...

"Tax and Spend"
"Liberal"
"Media"
"Patriotism"


Blah blah blah blah


Listen right wing? When you want to give the media a "talking point" you might want to wait until it actually happens.

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Dems aren't stupid enough to just "rake her through the mud".

They'll belittle her and kick her off track in far more subtle but just as effective ways. Case in point, the leader of the party, Barack Obama comes out and sternly states that Palin's children should not be an issue whatsoever, to leave her kids out of it. So what do his pundits and the liberal media do for the next two or three days, they talk about whether or not PALIN'S PREGNANT DAUGHTER should be an issue and in the process they make it an issue.

-Should Palin's daughter be political fodder? CNN story at 11.
-Tonight on the Countdown...Teen pregnancy in America. Where did we go wrong?
-Should we be talking about Bristol Palin's pregnancy? Tune in at 8 and we'll talk about it right here on MSNBC.


Obama gets to keep his hands clean and Palin and the McCain campaign are forced to deal with her child being the focus of the pro-Obama media. From a Dem standpoint, that is mission accomplished. Well done sirs. It's so obvious and so pathetic, its ridiculous.
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Old 09-03-2008, 07:36 PM   #3 (permalink)
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So what do his pundits and the liberal media do for the next two or three days,
Liberal media

One of the headlines on foxnews.com right now:

Sarah Palin and the Double Standard: Should a mother with five children, one of them a pregnant teen and another an infant with special needs, be running for vice president?
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Old 09-03-2008, 07:36 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Dems aren't stupid enough to just "rake her through the mud".

They'll belittle her and kick her off track in far more subtle but just as effective ways. Case in point, the leader of the party, Barack Obama comes out and sternly states that Palin's children should not be an issue whatsoever, to leave her kids out of it. So what do his pundits and the liberal media do for the next two or three days, they talk about whether or not PALIN'S PREGNANT DAUGHTER should be an issue or not and in the process they make it an issue.

Should Palin's daughter be political fodder? CNN story at 11.
Should we be talking about Bristol Palin's pregnancy? Tune in at 8 and we'll talk about it right here on MSNBC.

It's so obvious, its ridiculous.


Wow...you sure make Obama sound like a CIA operative who has Mancurian-Candidated the entire news corp.

Post a clip you find on youtube of a Democratic party member making this an issue...

Your line of argument is pathetic. I can fly a 747 through that argument. If you think anyone "controls" media...man I would question your sanity. I've known a lot of news people in my time, and all they ever want to do is find **** out and be the first to tell you about it.

The REPUBLICAN PARTY released THE STATEMENT THAT SHE HAS A TEENAGE DAUGHTER WHO IS PREGNANT!

I guarantee you if the shoe was on the other foot you'd be falling over yourselves trying to make the point of "family values" and looking down your nose.
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Old 09-03-2008, 07:37 PM   #5 (permalink)
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You know something? I heard Republicans talk over and over about this like they were getting cheat sheets ever since the pick was made.

I've never heard one Dem step in and rake her through the mud.

Republicans are making people think the media is out to destroy her. It is a great argument, you can't blame them for wanting to spin all the negative press on her. But it's not like the Democrats knocked up Palin's daughter, or was the little devil on "The first dude's" shoulders telling him to drink and drive.

It is, plain and simple, another way of manipulating people. No one can blame the media simply because it was the McCain camp who started the "poor me." As loud as they are blaring it...I wouldn't doubt it if there wasn't some other revelation about to come out.

But on the point of trying to rally women to her defense...we keep seeing the right blame the media.

It's pretty predictable. Any criticism is simply spun and not owned up to.

In a pinch? Talk about nothing...or repeat your point over and over.

In a jam? Claim executive privilege and play like rules don't apply to you.




No ****ing way the media isn't going to report on something the campaign releases about someone they know nothing about. Republicans got served this steaming pile of goo from John b/c the far right wouldn't go for a Lieberman or a Ridge. (Which is too bad).

And now, before it even started, they start bitching about the media.

It's beginning to sound like the same old ****...

"Tax and Spend"
"Liberal"
"Media"
"Patriotism"


Blah blah blah blah


Listen right wing? When you want to give the media a "talking point" you might want to wait until it actually happens.

Its all manufacured drama. Its all deflection from the issues. Its all deception to make you miss the magic trick happening right in front of your face. Jaded rant over./
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Old 09-03-2008, 07:39 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I guess I'd like to know what the Obama campaign could have done that was "acceptable."

Say, "Eh?"
Encourage a thorough and prompt investigation of her so we can get all the nonsense over with and move on?
Go and pretend nothing ever happened?
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Wow...you sure make Obama sound like a CIA operative who has Mancurian-Candidated the entire news corp.
If you don't think political campaigns think that way, (ie. send the pundits to sling the dirt but keep the big guy away from the fray) then you are one naive Brock ****ing Sampson.
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The Palin threads on this board have to be approaching 200, it would be surprising if the dem's had anything to do with that count.
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Same thing happened when Bush 1 picked that ******* from Indiana, they actually got a bump because the liberal media was attacking that poor poor white man...
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If you don't think political campaigns think that way, (ie. send the pundits to sling the dirt but keep the big guy away from the fray) then you are one naive Brock ****ing Sampson.
if you really think that the media cares about one candidate over another then you're...well, you're not naive...but you're wrong.

all the media cares about is ratings and ad revenue. Journalism is a business plain and simple. the media will feast upon whatever story line is convenient and that they think will get the most ratings (or papers sold, or magazine covers, etc).

There are exceptions...(Hannity, Olberman) but the vast majority couldn't care less about the politics of the candidates.
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You numbskulls don't seem to see the difference between political operatives and the media... The media dosen't care what party... They see sensational they go with it... Brings in viewers, etc. (see even Fox news hitting on Palin's issues)

Political operatives like the swiftboaters bang the drum so they can not be ignored and put out nationally running commercials...

Two distinct different things. One is tha nature of being in the spotlight, the other is a conserted effort to be nasty.
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You pick trash for a running mate, expect the media to point out she is trashy...
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You numbskulls don't seem to see the difference between political operatives and the media... The media dosen't care what party... They see sensational they go with it... Brings in viewers, etc. (see even Fox news hitting on Palin's issues)

Political operatives like the swiftboaters bang the drum so they can not be ignored and put out nationally running commercials...

Two distinct different things. One is tha nature of being in the spotlight, the other is a conserted effort to be nasty.
I believe Fox jumping on board is a madated directive. The Idea is to offend the public so much at media sensationalism that they move their anger from the last 8 years over to the mercyless MSM. They are setting the press up to be the bully so that Americans can defend the pretty woman.
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Funny, but I remember ole Triple Green lapping up media reports, regardless of how truthful they were, when those reports agreed with his delusions.

Just like when he was shilling the Stephan Hayes book which "linked" Saddam Hussein to 9/11.

Strictly a fantasyland book, but ole Triple Green fell for it hook, line and sinker.

In the case of Stephan Hayes, we was out to destroy the truth about 9/11, but that didn't seem to bother ole Triple Green at all.
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