It's really only a matter of time now - Obama is dead in the water.

[McflyMSU]

Originally Posted by msuferd

I hope you realized that the poll numbers will go back & forth all the way to November.

And as we've realized, they dont' really even matter. Only the votes in a few states do. If Obama pulls ahead in Ohio, or Florida, or (fill in the blank), that's all that really matters.

Obama won't pull ahead in either of those states, that's the problem. Ohio = too many ignorant people, Florida = too many racist old people. #1 hit the nail on the head. Republcians are excellent bull**** artists. They can just throw up lie after lie under the guise of waving American flags and shouting patroitism. I hope I'm wrong, but I have a sick feeling we will be calling McBush "Mr. President" on 1/20/09.

[tjmania]

Originally Posted by McflyMSU

Obama won't pull ahead in either of those states, that's the problem. Ohio = too many ignorant people, Florida = too many racist old people. #1 hit the nail on the head. Republcians are excellent bull**** artists. They can just throw up lie after lie under the guise of waving American flags and shouting patroitism. I hope I'm wrong, but I have a sick feeling we will be calling McBush "Mr. President" on 1/20/09.

[AndrewA]

Originally Posted by IGGcitable

ROFL. Everyone will get tired of looking at Palin's tits after about a week (by far her most captivating feature), she'll say a bunch of stupid things, McCain will continue tangling himself up with Bush and that will be all she wrote.

And Hillary will jump back in the fray and open up a can of whoop-ass on Palin (as well as McCain). Nothing enrages ball-busting feminists like Hillary and her true disciples more than a giggling girly-girl cheerleader-type getting promoted up the ladder lightning-fast while they get left behind.

The Hillary feminists have vented their frustration at Obama, but as the election draws clearer, they'll sober up and think, "Holy $#$#, am I really that mad I wanna see ole Grandpaw McCain in office taking orders from Rove/Cheney for 8 more years, plus about a 43% chance that pom-pom shaking b$#$# gets elevated into the White House? F that noise."

Quite Frankly, I think Palin will hammer Biden in the debates

[McflyMSU]

Originally Posted by AndrewA

Quite Frankly, I think Palin will hammer Biden in the debates

Only because her American Flag lapel pin will be bigger and shinier than Biden's.

[VP Sarah Palin]

Originally Posted by AndrewA

Quite Frankly, I think Palin will hammer Biden in the debates

"You ma'am, are lit-erally a bitch."

[GRR Spartan]

Originally Posted by #1

"You ma'am, are lit-erally a bitch."

Palin will play the mommy card and the sex card, will be acting on how to look into the camera and smile as she makes claims designed to raise Biden's ire and look sympathetic when her script is challenged.

I just don't think hiding her until she "debates" Biden is a great idea. If I were running the campaign I would rather have her screw up in Oklahoma surrounded by a friendly crowd and regain her bearings than look like a deer in the headlights her second time in front of a national audience.

[Brock F@%ing Samson]

Originally Posted by #1

McCain managed to close Obama's entire convention bounce with one day to spare. With only 60 days left to go, we're entering 30 second soundbyte territory and Obama can't afford to spend 10 minutes on a point. McCain and Palin will absolutely bury him.

Link?

[Brock F@%ing Samson]

Originally Posted by #1

McCain officially began his divorce from Bush tonight. If McCain starts throwing him under the bus the "can't afford more of the same" argument goes out the window. Obama still doesn't have an effective counter to the celebrity or taxman charges. I would love to be the rosy eyed Democrat I really am, but my party has never come up with a good counter to the elitist / taxman / liberal / baby killer.

For example, home stretch coming up, all McCain has to do in a debate is pound his hands on the podium and say "life begins at conception, I am pro life." Obama has to go down the "well, we don't know if life begins at conception, it's not really murder, woman's right to choose" road which is longer.

McCain can pound his fist on the desk and say "no new taxes" while Obama has to get into a lengthy "those making under 250,000 / yr will see a modest decrease..."

McCain can tear into Obama's "San Francisco Values," and what's Obama's retort?? Phoenix, AZ values? Nashville, TN values?

Cling to guns and religion
Tax and Spend
Liberal
Elitist
Wine sipping
Arugula
$400 haircut

The right has always had a better command of the English language too. Which sounds more appealing to a voter? "Record Oil Profits Tax" or "Windfall Profits." Which sounds more appealing? "No Child Left Behind" or "Educational Reform Act of 2001?"

McCain's end game is to stick to the talking points and level absolute lies against Obama. Obama will have to either ignore the negative ads (see swiftboat 2004) or spend most of his money buying ad time to rebut him.

He can say all he wants, but when Americans look at what he has done it's pretty appalling. (And no, I'm not talking about his ****ing POW experience. I am so tired of that being the only thing they are running on. When your campaign manager says "this election is not about the issues" you have to hope no one else gets tired of it.)

[Tag]

Originally Posted by Brock F@%ing Samson

Link?

Inside the presidential race: Candidate polling map - Election Center 2008 from CNN.com

[Barney_Greengrass]

Originally Posted by IGGcitable

ROFL. Everyone will get tired of looking at Palin's tits after about a week (by far her most captivating feature), she'll say a bunch of stupid things, McCain will continue tangling himself up with Bush and that will be all she wrote.

And Hillary will jump back in the fray and open up a can of whoop-ass on Palin (as well as McCain). Nothing enrages ball-busting feminists like Hillary and her true disciples more than a giggling girly-girl cheerleader-type getting promoted up the ladder lightning-fast while they get left behind.

The Hillary feminists have vented their frustration at Obama, but as the election draws clearer, they'll sober up and think, "Holy $#$#, am I really that mad I wanna see ole Grandpaw McCain in office taking orders from Rove/Cheney for 8 more years, plus about a 43% chance that pom-pom shaking b$#$# gets elevated into the White House? F that noise."

Keep snorting the Hopium dude. For Hillary to stay relevant, Barry has to go down. She is not waiting 8 years to get back into the ring. When it comes time to pull the lever, most level headed Americans will not vote for guy who has reformed NADA in his own state or city, but claims he will do it in DC. And guess who will be standing by to pick up the pieces? Hillary.

[Fritzdude]

Originally Posted by IGGcitable

ROFL. Everyone will get tired of looking at Palin's tits after about a week (by far her most captivating feature), she'll say a bunch of stupid things, McCain will continue tangling himself up with Bush and that will be all she wrote.

And Hillary will jump back in the fray and open up a can of whoop-ass on Palin (as well as McCain). Nothing enrages ball-busting feminists like Hillary and her true disciples more than a giggling girly-girl cheerleader-type getting promoted up the ladder lightning-fast while they get left behind.

The Hillary feminists have vented their frustration at Obama, but as the election draws clearer, they'll sober up and think, "Holy $#$#, am I really that mad I wanna see ole Grandpaw McCain in office taking orders from Rove/Cheney for 8 more years, plus about a 43% chance that pom-pom shaking b$#$# gets elevated into the White House? F that noise."

Nailed it.

BTW - an interesting point about Palin is that although she may have rev'd up the Christian Right Wing with her rhetoric, she also energized the Left in opposition. The result was Obama receiving the largest ever contribution ($10M) within 24 hours of her speech. If Palin was looking to divide and conquer, well... she's half way there. People either love her or hate her.

[Tag]

Originally Posted by Fritzdude

If Palin was looking to divide and conquer, well... she's half way there. People either love her or hate her.

Current opinion polls indicate more of the former than the latter.

[MasonDelhiGuy]

Originally Posted by IGGcitable

ROFL. Everyone will get tired of looking at Palin's tits after about a week (by far her most captivating feature), she'll say a bunch of stupid things, McCain will continue tangling himself up with Bush and that will be all she wrote.

And Hillary will jump back in the fray and open up a can of whoop-ass on Palin (as well as McCain). Nothing enrages ball-busting feminists like Hillary and her true disciples more than a giggling girly-girl cheerleader-type getting promoted up the ladder lightning-fast while they get left behind.

The Hillary feminists have vented their frustration at Obama, but as the election draws clearer, they'll sober up and think, "Holy $#$#, am I really that mad I wanna see ole Grandpaw McCain in office taking orders from Rove/Cheney for 8 more years, plus about a 43% chance that pom-pom shaking b$#$# gets elevated into the White House? F that noise."

Palin is a giggling girly-girl cheerleader-type with brains and brawn and an attitude. Fems have NEVER figured out how to beat that. All their sniping, whining, catty crap will slowly disappear. Tell me when any of you have witnessed it otherwise!?! As liberal as our society is, no one embraced Hillary until she started to act more like Palin. Time for "soft'ndry".

[StatsETC]

Originally Posted by #1

To win the election Obama needs to win one of four packages. Assuming he takes Iowa and all Kerry States.

1) Nevada AND Colorado AND New Mexico (Obama is losing to McCain in NV, tied in CO)
2) Ohio (Obama is E)
3) Virginia (Obama is E)
4) Florida (Obama is -2)

His best chance to win the election is going to be Virginia or Ohio.

Obama did terrible in Appalachia, an area where Hillary would have helped. Virginia is a wild card but lies in both the deep south and Appala-guns and religion-cia.

The tax, liberal, elite, guns, religion, abortion, black labels (I believe) are good for at least a McCain +2 (Bradley Effect) in each of those states.

How many is New Hampshire worth? You've got NH listed in McCain's line of your sig but not mentioned in this post, and NH is probably the most likely of those you list for McCain to ulitimately end up blue.

[VP Sarah Palin]

Originally Posted by #1

McCain's end game is to stick to the talking points and level absolute lies against Obama. Obama will have to either ignore the negative ads (see swiftboat 2004) or spend most of his money buying ad time to rebut him.

And off we go...

YouTube - Temple

[LoneWolfSparty®]

Originally Posted by #1

And off we go...

YouTube - Temple

AWESOME!

[VP Sarah Palin]

Originally Posted by StatsETC

How many is New Hampshire worth? You've got NH listed in McCain's line of your sig but not mentioned in this post, and NH is probably the most likely of those you list for McCain to ulitimately end up blue.

New Hampshire polling just about even right now, and I expect some serious campaigning by Lieberman to begin. That folksy NE independent streak might sway some votes.

NV/CO/NM: Obama still wins the election (274)
OH: Obama still wins the election (275)
FL: Obama still wins (282)
VA: Obama falls short (268), so Obama would have to win NH or steal a mountain state.

Originally Posted by Brock F@%ing Samson

Link?

Pollster.com: US: McCain 42, Obama 42 (CBS-9/1-3)

[SpartanStu]

Oh I thought the title said Osama! Damn it!

[LoneWolfSparty®]

Originally Posted by SpartanStu

Oh I thought the title said Osama! Damn it!

[SpartanStu]

Originally Posted by LoneWolfSparty®

Feel free to comment on my new thread.