So let me get this straight; the GOP is excited about a guy who couldn't beat Bush? - SpartanTailgate.com

Leonidas · 09-05-2008, 03:14 PM

Leonidas · 09-05-2008, 03:20 PM

Apparently, if you can't beat them...add one to the ticket.

SpartanStu · 09-05-2008, 03:22 PM

McCain got swiftboated by his own party.

Vlad_the_Impaler · 09-05-2008, 03:22 PM

Good point.

It's like the Republicans are trying their best to get enthusiastic about this ticket, but it's just not quite working. Palin gave them a little woody for a bit, but as woodies go, it didn't last long.

Lochgelly · 09-05-2008, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by SpartanStu

McCain got swiftboated by his own party.

Correct.

In 2000, McCain was leading and then all of a sudden ...out of nowhere...as if by magic....a 4th or 5th place Bush skyrockets out of nowhere and wins the Iowa Cauceses.

Nothing mattered after that...Bush had the momentum...and even when McCain won the Michigan primary a few weeks later...it didn't matter.

The media had their orders and they followed them....no one had a chance after that....it was a really weird time in Republican politics that was largely forgotton.

Funny...4 years later Kerry did the same thing.....this time on the Democrat side...

There was only one thing in common with those two regarding the Iowa Caucuses...$

ninowesco · 09-05-2008, 04:06 PM

sacrificial lamb

just like dole

they know they have no chance

hence the laughable vp selection

Vlad_the_Impaler · 09-05-2008, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by SpartanStu

McCain got swiftboated by his own party.

He got more than swiftboated. Dumbya's ads called his wife a drug adict (somewhat true) and even made fun of his adopted daughter.

Feckweed · 09-05-2008, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Leonidas

I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure Bush went on to win 2 Presidential elections...no shame whatsoever in losing to the Champion

It's kinda like the AFC Championship game 2 years ago....the patriots lost to Indy, but there's little doubt they would have crushed Da Bears if they represented the AFC instead of Indy

ninowesco · 09-05-2008, 05:40 PM

mcsame gave up all of his maverick principles and fell in line behind the machine

Brock F@%ing Samson · 09-05-2008, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by SpartanStu

McCain got swiftboated by his own party.

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Originally Posted by Lochgelly

Correct.

In 2000, McCain was leading and then all of a sudden ...out of nowhere...as if by magic....a 4th or 5th place Bush skyrockets out of nowhere and wins the Iowa Cauceses.

Nothing mattered after that...Bush had the momentum...and even when McCain won the Michigan primary a few weeks later...it didn't matter.

The media had their orders and they followed them....no one had a chance after that....it was a really weird time in Republican politics that was largely forgotton.

Funny...4 years later Kerry did the same thing.....this time on the Democrat side...

There was only one thing in common with those two regarding the Iowa Caucuses...$

In 2000 a proxy-organization of Jim Baker and the Bush campaign released fliers in South Carolina accusing McCain of fathering "a black baby" out of wedlock.

It was their rescued baby from Bangladesh.

See what the country is forced to deal with?

Leonidas · 09-05-2008, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Feckweed

I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure Bush went on to win 2 Presidential elections...no shame whatsoever in losing to the Champion

Have you seen Bush's ratings, yeap, McSame lost to a president with a whopping 33% support for a job well done

Bush: Job Ratings

Feckweed · 09-05-2008, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Leonidas

Have you seen Bush's ratings, only 67% disaprove of his job...so I guess he's got that going for him

Bush: Job Ratings

The idea is to win.....I don't think many people outside of New England like the Red Sox either

Leonidas · 09-05-2008, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Feckweed

The idea is to win.....I don't think many people outside of New England like the Red Sox either

So the idea is for the president to win and than piss off 67% of the people?

That's the GOP model?

Feckweed · 09-05-2008, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Leonidas

So the idea is for the president to win and than piss off 67% of the people?

That's the GOP model?

I don't think McCain ran in 04....so if you want to accurately use your comparison you need to use his rating at the end of his first administration...I'll help you out, it was 63%, the highest rating of any Presindent since 1963

Leonidas · 09-05-2008, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Feckweed

I don't think McCain ran in 04

What was McSame's excuse in 2000?

Bush was a virtual unknown going up against the "original" maverick?

Spartan Fan1 · 09-05-2008, 06:15 PM

So let me get this straight; the Dems are excited about a guy who couldn't beat Bobby Rush in the 2000 primary for the 1st congressional district in Illinois?

In fact, he lost that race by a whopping 29%.

Sawtooth Spartan · 09-05-2008, 07:53 PM

I'm guessing Bobby Rush has done more for the country in Illinois than 'W' in eight years.

Spartan Fan1 · 09-05-2008, 10:20 PM

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I'm guessing Bobby Rush has done more for the country in Illinois than 'W' in eight years.

Of course you would believe that...Bobby Rush was a founder of the Illinois branch of the Black Panthers in the late 60's...In 1968, was sentenced to 6 months in jail for an illegal weapons conviction. In 1971, the black panthers in Illinois were still describing him as the "Deputy Minister of Defense".

He strongly supports reparations for descendants of African-American slaves and is a supporter of the National Coalition of Blacks for Reparations, which wants taxpayers to pay $8 trillion to black Americans. He even told a congressional hearing that "The future of race relations will be determined by reparations for slavery."

Rush is also among the biggest supporters of gun control in Congress. He proposed legislation that would regulate the sale and purchase of bullets. "Ultimately, I would like to see the manufacture and possession of handguns banned," said Rush, "…that's the endgame."

In 1999, his 29-year-old son Huey Rich was shot and killed. "My son's death was a senseless death," he told supporters the following day at Operation PUSH headquarters, blaming the gun rather than the criminal who pulled the trigger. "We've got to rid our communities of guns."

In 2002, his nephew was arrested and charged with murder in a case involving a South Side drug deal. 2 years earlier Rush had proposed a government study of the decriminalization of illicit drugs as a way to reduce the violent gang "turf battle over drugs."

In 2007,his son Jeffrey, was fired from his job as assistant supervisor of security at Fox Valley Transition Center in Aurora, IL for for having sex with female inmates.