Fortuantely the war in Iraq has a purpose.

[SpartanStu]

Is this Rick Warren's "The Purpose Driven Life"?

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Originally Posted by SpartyOnInChitown
Fortunately the war in Iraq has a purpose.

4000 x value of human life

American lives!!!!!!!!!!

Dont forget replacemen value of American soldiers who lost limbs, need continual medical coverage, and the Permenently Destroyed Families.

Now think of how many Iraqi lives have been destroyed. Those human lives in the hundreds of thousands.

And Afghani citizens.

You figure it out. I dont dare. The total is too sinister.

Its Ungodly, Im sure.

Oh F I forgot the HALF A TRILLION DOLLARS we spent to eliminate them in the FIRST PLACE.

Its offensive. We started the war with Iraq. ...scratch that. We started the war with Afghanistan because we said we were going after Bin Ladin. We got one failed attempt or as far as I remember it was someone elses army that failed to get him. So we set up a base of operations for live training operation and diverted our remaining forces to start an unprovoked war on the other side of Iran. In Iraq.

Saddam probably ****ed us over and thats why we want to strike him.

So its all very probable isn't it?

What am I missing?

We've known where OBL is for years, or so we are told. He's in Pakistan. Mind you we were tight with Pakistan, until Musahrif got ousted.

I've gotten away from my orginal thought.

Thats a hell of a lot of MONEY!!!!

Then I look at the motive behind our retaliation on Osama Bin Ladin.

Why is he so pissed off at us?

We were giving him MONEY and GUNS to begin with so he would do **** for our government. When Im pissed off with some one, I want to strike them. I dont, but I want to. So I figure some where along the line we ****ed him over bad enough so he did strike us.

I also figure that once you get involved with the CIA you dont truly become uninvolved, until they out you and destroy you. So what if all that money and guns...we also trained him....didn't we? Tell me no....what if we payed him forward? We could if we were sinister.
We gave Saddam MONEY and GUNS too. Didn't we? Was that thru the CIA too?

So then I follow the MONEY. Who made it? All that "value of human life" Banks make money. My government teacher in 10th grade told me that.

Tell me if I'm wrong. Banks make money in time of war don't they?

Banks don't make money when there is a housing bubble....but they did before the credit bubble. And so with a war they cover the loss.

One bank makes a TON of MONEY on the interest,we paid for them to print it. The main bank we borrow from it.

There is no gold standard, so this bank that lends our government money... out of virtually nothing. ...there are the materials. cotton, paper, various common metals in costs for production.

Oh, and the labor costs of the bank too we can't forget them. ...Those investors who we are now bailing out!

Sorry for the long winded response...

I meant to say

QFT!

[SpartanStu]

Well, since no one else could wrap their mind around the ungodly amount of money...

Value of Human Life= $1,540,000

~4,000 US casualties x VHL = $6,160,000,000

estimated 100,000 Iraqi and Afghani x VHL = $154,000,000,000

$500,000,000,000 spent on the war
$154,000,000,000 non American lives
$6,160,000,000 American lives


$660,160,000,000.00 on the money spent for war and value of extinguished lives.

Is it worth it, I mean really, what have we gotten? We took out a dictator and still havent come close to getting OBL.

Think back to the day we declared war on Iraq. Would anyone except defense contractors, financers, investors, oil barrons and the devil be on board with this?

I think it speeks to the point that money is the reason anything gets done.

Now how do you sell this number to the American public to justify going to war....

[MichState04]

You had to bump your own rant

I think Strangelove needs to make an official Iraq War rant thread and merge these all into it. We have a voluntary military and these soldiers have died serving their country and tracking down the people that attacked us on 9/11. Some of you terds can whine all day long that Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11, but the bottom line is we drew AQ into Iraq to fight and our service men and women kicked their asses and killed their leader.

[Nommad]

Originally Posted by MichState04

You had to bump your own rant

I think Strangelove needs to make an official Iraq War rant thread and merge these all into it. We have a voluntary military and these soldiers have died serving their country and tracking down the people that attacked us on 9/11. Some of you terds can whine all day long that Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11, but the bottom line is we drew AQ into Iraq to fight and our service men and women kicked their asses and killed their leader.

Really? When was Bin Laden killed? I missed that headline...

FAIL.

[MichState04]

Originally Posted by Nommad

Really? When was Bin Laden killed? I missed that headline...

FAIL.

I am pretty sure that Bin Laden was not AQ's leader in Iraq...but Zarqawi was...and is dead.

[SpartanStu]

Originally Posted by MichState04

I am pretty sure that Bin Laden was not AQ's leader in Iraq...but Zarqawi was...and is dead.

So the war has usefully killed ~3,000 AQ out of ~100,000 uninvolved.
Great ratio

Hell, lets say the AQ dead are 10,000

Thats $66 million a piece for them! Awesome.

[MichState04]

Originally Posted by SpartanStu

So the war has usefully killed ~3,000 AQ out of ~100,000 uninvolved.
Great ratio

Hell, lets say the AQ dead are 10,000

Thats $66 million a piece for them! Awesome.

How many of those 100k do you think were killed by AQ? I am not going to hold the US Gov't/Military responsible for the deaths committed by AQ.

There are reasons we started winning the war in Iraq and one of those reasons was we started winning over Iraqis...ones that were fighting against us in the first place...because they realized that their interests would be better served if we beat the AQ. Something tells me that AQ is not going to be recruiting much in Iraq any time soon. The middle east is f'ed up and there is going to be a lot of bloodshed out there for years to come because the vicious leaders that run those countries are not going to give up their power without a fight. Thankfully Iraq has been added to the column of moderate middle east gov'ts.

[SpartanStu]

Originally Posted by MichState04

How many of those 100k do you think were killed by AQ? I am not going to hold the US Gov't/Military responsible for the deaths committed by AQ.

There are reasons we started winning the war in Iraq and one of those reasons was we started winning over Iraqis...ones that were fighting against us in the first place...because they realized that their interests would be better served if we beat the AQ. Something tells me that AQ is not going to be recruiting much in Iraq any time soon. The middle east is f'ed up and there is going to be a lot of bloodshed out there for years to come because the vicious leaders that run those countries are not going to give up their power without a fight. Thankfully Iraq has been added to the column of moderate middle east gov'ts.

I have not directly implicated anyone in the collateral damage of war. I only pointed out the monetary value of the lives lost, and pondered who made money.

Lets say that all the civilian deaths in Iraq were atributed to AQ. Would those deaths still have happened if we didn't leave Afghanistan for Iraq?

Who do you think made money off of W's war?