The truth about McCain's motivation to suspend the debate

[Bruce Banner Ad]

Many have speculated that McCain didn't want to have the first debate under circumstances that favor Obama, or that he's trying to eliminate one debate, or stall for time for Palin.

On the other side of the political divide, republicans are now feverously working to spin it like McCain had a brilliant master plan; like he was just trying to draw more attention to the foreign policy debate, which is his area of strength, or that he was trying to make Obama look like a follower to his uniter.

Here's the truth: The guy's utterly clueless. He doesn't have a plan at all. Nothing devious, nothing brilliant, he's just flailing.

That is all.

[jjsparty]

HOW ABOUT....
*****There is a potential financial mess like we have never seen. It needs to be done right now.
*****McCain is DOING his job not just talking about his job like Barry.
What is so complicated?

[New User]

If you are an Obama person you will see it as, the old geezer is stalling and does not want to square off with barak when there is bad news. Barak has been preparing for this ever since saddleback. So McMaverick is stalling a pissing obama off, trying to make Obama look bad.


If you are a McCain person, you wil see this as McCain taking leadership, and taking care of business before campaigning. Trying to paint Obama is a guy who is only working on getting elected, not what is best for america. Obama first, not country.

Its a no win situation for Obama, he complains that he wants one- McCain will call him out for not putting the needs of the country first. McCain wants to control the tempo of this election.

[LA_Spartan]

Originally Posted by jjsparty

HOW ABOUT....
*****There is a potential financial mess like we have never seen. It needs to be done right now.
*****McCain is DOING his job not just talking about his job like Barry.
What is so complicated?

The crap hit the fan last week. If it was so important, why wasn't he in Washington last week? Why did he wait until yesterday to dive into the fray? (and why did he stop in NY to speak with Katie Couric and speak at Clinton' Global Initiative conference on Wed night and Thurs a.m. before getting to DC?)

Better questions are why hadn't he read the 4 page Paulson Plan and why haven't his staff been involved in the discussions?

The answer is that even if there were no presidential campaign, McCain wouldn't have been involved because banking is not his issue. This issue is not before his committees. Even the Republicans don't want him involved:

But lawmakers on Capitol Hill are not enthusiastic about the presidential candidates injecting themselves. Time’s Jay Newton-Small reported last night that “leaders from the left and the right rejected the idea of McCain and Obama taking over the talks”:

But leaders from the left and the right rejected the idea of McCain and Obama taking over the talks. When asked by reporters if he wanted McCain sitting in blow-by-blow negotiations Rep. Adam Putnam, the No. 3 House Republican, simply smirked, mute for ten seconds as reporters laughed. Democrats were more voiciferous in their rejection of McCain-Obama negotiations; New York Senator Chuck Schumer and Rep. Jim Clyburn, the No. 3 House Dem, both said if McCain had really cared where have he — and his staff — been in the negotiations thus far.

Putnam told Politico that “McCain and Obama were most valuable in speaking to the need for action rather than getting into the legislative details.” Rep. Spencer Bachus (R-AL), the ranking Republican on the House Financial Services Committee, indicated he didn’t want McCain’s help, pointing “McCain away from the House and toward the Senate.” House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-MD) said the candidates return would “not be particularly helpful.”
House Financial Services Committee Chairman Barney Frank (D-MA), who is one of the chief negotiators of the bailout proposal, derided McCain’s “late entry into the negotiations“:

"McCain is Andy Kaufman in his Mighty Mouse costume - 'Here I Come to Save the Day,'" Frank said as he left a Thursday morning caucus meeting with House Democrats, saying the Republican presidential candidate’s decision to enter the mix “is not helpful.”
"He hasn't been involved," Frank said, "He doesn't know anything about it."

Frank also mocked the idea that McCain could help with the details, quipping, “I guess if I wanted expertise there, I’d ask Sarah Palin.” One anonymous Republican ridiculed McCain’s plan to jump into negotiations, telling the Washington Post’s Dana Milbank, “Daddy’s coming home.”
UpdateAccording to Politico's Ryan Grim, "'nobody mentioned McCain' during the several-hour-long meeting on the $700 billion market rescue plan, other than Frank and that his Republican colleagues 'winced' when he did."

Think Progress » Lawmakers Would Prefer McCain Butt Out Of Their Bailout Negotiations

[InTenSity]

I love TDS lol

[wingfanjim]

Originally Posted by jjsparty

HOW ABOUT....
*****There is a potential financial mess like we have never seen. It needs to be done right now.
*****McCain is DOING his job not just talking about his job like Barry.
What is so complicated?

That's an interesting way to put it, except he shows up and the current plan they were negotiating suddenly gets blown out of the water and they have to start from scratch. If he really was going to Washington to make sure something gets "done right now", why did he side with House Republicans in breaking down any agreements that were previously made?

[Spartytruth]

This plan has to pass - McCain should take charge and describe to America how it is designed to ensure that we main streeters can get money for houses, cars and college.

McCain looked like a deer in the headlights at that meeting - the first candidate to explain this plan in simple terms to the people is the winner.

I truly feel it has to go through.

[Cuchulainn]

Originally Posted by Bruce Banner Ad

Many have speculated that McCain didn't want to have the first debate under circumstances that favor Obama, or that he's trying to eliminate one debate, or stall for time for Palin.

On the other side of the political divide, republicans are now feverously working to spin it like McCain had a brilliant master plan; like he was just trying to draw more attention to the foreign policy debate, which is his area of strength, or that he was trying to make Obama look like a follower to his uniter.

Here's the truth: The guy's utterly clueless. He doesn't have a plan at all. Nothing devious, nothing brilliant, he's just flailing.

That is all.

Don't forget that it was McCain who wanted 10 town hall debates. Obama backed out.
McCain, Obama Debate Debate Deals - The Caucus Blog - NYTimes.com

[ninowesco]

he is trying to duck the debates because it's a lot harder to lie to people face to face

he prefers it when his campaign people and the rest of the party just spread the lies through their controlled media outlets

Americans are stupid but they can still tell when they are being lied to directly.

Without lies mcsame has nothing.

[AvgMSUJoe]

Originally Posted by jjsparty

HOW ABOUT....
*****There is a potential financial mess like we have never seen. It needs to be done right now.
*****McCain is DOING his job not just talking about his job like Barry.
What is so complicated?

You are delusional if you believe this BS.

The only thing McCain is bringing to this serious negotiation is the "lipstick on a pig" type presidential politics which will more than likely **** up the economy indefinitely.

If McCain was really doing the right thing, why can't Palin carry the torch for his campaign? She's is running to be the person a heart beat away from the presidency, she should be able to make some speaches and take a couple interviews.

[irishmick79]

Originally Posted by jjsparty

HOW ABOUT....
*****There is a potential financial mess like we have never seen. It needs to be done right now.
*****McCain is DOING his job not just talking about his job like Barry.
What is so complicated?

Yes, because McCain is on the committees that are negotiating the bill....oh wait, he's not! And the guy in charge of the committee, Chris Dodd, isn't going to give McCain the time of day, nevermind a role in writing the bailout bill. So basically McCain is going to Washington to be a cheerleader for the congressional republicans who are acutally doing the negotiating and heavy lifting.

Yep, smooth play on his part to dodge a debate where he could more effectively articulate his views on the bailout so he could pretty much be relegated to the sidelines in congress. Good plan.

[Bob Sakimano]

Originally Posted by InTenSity

I love TDS lol

it is absolutely tragic when you have to rely on Comedy Central for what the mainstream media should be doing...

McCain is just clueless...

[AvgMSUJoe]

Originally Posted by Cuchulainn

Don't forget that it was McCain who wanted 10 town hall debates. Obama backed out.
McCain, Obama Debate Debate Deals - The Caucus Blog - NYTimes.com

Negotiating on the type of debates they will have <> backing out... Did you read the article?

They agreed on this format. McCain IS bailing on agreed debates because his handlers are scared. Obama never agreed to McCain's "invitation for town hall appearances" whatever the **** that is supposed to mean. I believe the rationale for McCain is, "town hall" means dip**** average Americans tossing out softball questions vs politically savvy journalist holding their feet to the fire in a real debate.

[caspper69]

Originally Posted by AvgMSUJoe

Negotiating on the type of debates they will have <> backing out... Did you read the article?

They agreed on this format. McCain IS bailing on agreed debates because his handlers are scared. Obama never agreed to McCain's "invitation for town hall appearances" whatever the **** that is supposed to mean. I believe the rationale for McCain is, "town hall" means dip**** average Americans tossing out softball questions vs politically savvy journalist holding their feet to the fire in a real debate.

Exactly, Chalupa seems to not understand that "town hall debate" is an oxymoron. Either you have a town hall, where the idiot public asks idiot partisan questions (guns, bible, abortion, global warming, gay marriage, taxes), and a debate is where you have *actual* points and actual issues asked by people with relevant knowledge in each field.

[GRR Spartan]

McCain would love to have this become a "town hall" aka American Idol style format where he and Palin can extol their "personality" and guarantee at least 50% of the questions would be 16 inch softballs.

[sarcyspice]

Originally Posted by jjsparty

HOW ABOUT....
*****There is a potential financial mess like we have never seen. It needs to be done right now.
*****McCain is DOING his job not just talking about his job like Barry.
What is so complicated?

excuses excuses from the McCain camp

and do these senators normally work on a friday evening then?

its not like they both couldn't go down to mississippi for a night and the whole thing would grind to a halt now would it or are they that important in the process... jeez

[maxemus]

Originally Posted by Cuchulainn

Don't forget that it was McCain who wanted 10 town hall debates. Obama backed out.
McCain, Obama Debate Debate Deals - The Caucus Blog - NYTimes.com

Bill Clinton confirmed on the today show

Must really want obama apollo to lose