Legalize It?

[mentalstate]

Do keep in mind, Marijuana used to be everywhere, and William Randolph Hearst owned the paper mills and paper, and Marijuana/Hemp was a major threat to his business... so he single-handily did it in. Ran the "reefer madness" stories. Used his influence and power to get the government to form a certain new agency and go after pot. Turned perhaps the most important plant in human history into something evil, and it has been bought hook, line and sinker for decades.

Also keep in mind Mexico is on the literal verge of civil war, funded by american pot smokers and fueled by american guns. The Mexican cartels are kidnapping and executing people in cities such as Atlanta. And The cartels have waged war on our National Parks, and are planting and aggressively guarding huge plots in parks nationwide.

Make weed legal, re-organize our stressed out and under-manned police forces. Turn focus to murderers, rapists, pedophiles, and oh, say, white collar criminals.

[TTTenor]

I am old enough to realize that the "war on drugs" is a bunch of government propaganda. Somehow, people have been brainwashed to think that cannabis is evil.

It's a plant! If I can grow it in my yard, it shouldn't be illegal. I don't even agree with the "legalize it and tax it" people, unless there is a provision for home grown stuff, like the 200 gallon (or whatever it is now) allowance on home brewed beer.

As for the other plant derived drugs, I'm not interested, but I don't care if other people want to endanger their health by using them. People complain about the nanny state, but trying to limit drugs is silly, when there are a gazillion other ways to kill yourself, if you are so inclined.

[Jaheab]

Originally Posted by GoStateNate

Yeah, this "evil" plant turns all who may come into contact with it into pagans, heathens or godless communists.

Originally Posted by No excuses, but...

And worst of all, causes crazed negroes to cast their gazes upon white women!

[GoStateNate]

Originally Posted by mentalstate

Do keep in mind, Marijuana used to be everywhere, and William Randolph Hearst owned the paper mills and paper, and Marijuana/Hemp was a major threat to his business... so he single-handily did it in. Ran the "reefer madness" stories. Used his influence and power to get the government to form a certain new agency and go after pot. Turned perhaps the most important plant in human history into something evil, and it has been bought hook, line and sinker for decades.

Also keep in mind Mexico is on the literal verge of civil war, funded by american pot smokers and fueled by american guns. The Mexican cartels are kidnapping and executing people in cities such as Atlanta. And The cartels have waged war on our National Parks, and are planting and aggressively guarding huge plots in parks nationwide.

Make weed legal, re-organize our stressed out and under-manned police forces. Turn focus to murderers, rapists, pedophiles, and oh, say, white collar criminals.

This. Hearst knew he couldn't compete with hemp, so he leaned on all his editors to demonize it over and over and over again.

It's a goddamn shame that one man with that much influence was able to destroy this wonderful plant.

[No excuses, but...]

Originally Posted by GoStateNate

It's a goddamn shame that one man with that much influence was able to destroy this wonderful plant.

We can bring it back though. Could you imagine, instead of everyone throwing out their seeds they held on to them until spring and just planted them everywhere?

[No excuses, but...]

I'm trying to post this video without embedding it but whenever I put in the link it automatically embeds.

Anyways, go to Google Video and just search for "The Union: The Business Behind Getting High". Everyone should watch it. Everyone.

[GoStateNate]

Originally Posted by No excuses, but...

We can bring it back though. Could you imagine, instead of everyone throwing out their seeds they held on to them until spring and just planted them everywhere?

You shouldn't ever come into contact with seeds, dude.

[Venice Spartan]

Originally Posted by Jaheab

Going to an on campus showing was like going to a Cheech and Chong concert only smokier

[No excuses, but...]

Originally Posted by GoStateNate

You shouldn't ever come into contact with seeds, dude.

Every now and then you do come across a seed in some chronic. Not everybody is smoking sensimilla though.

[Jaheab]

Originally Posted by No excuses, but...

We can bring it back though. Could you imagine, instead of everyone throwing out their seeds they held on to them until spring and just planted them everywhere?

IIRC one of the new deal programs hired people to find and distroy wild plants as pot-prohibition started because it thrived all over on roadsides.

Some friends and I tried that a couple of years ago (when we were all still smoking mids). We called it the "Johnny Potseed Project." We collected plenty (2 mason jars) but very few made it to maturity. The deer that roam the red ceder river apparently have a taste for bud.

Originally Posted by GoStateNate

You shouldn't ever come into contact with seeds, dude.

Troof. If feel a little for No excuses, but...

[No excuses, but...]

Originally Posted by Jaheab

Troof. If feel a little for No excuses, but...

I appreciate the sympathy, but don't worry, no stems and no seeds for me. Ideally though, I'd really love to be able to have homegrown bud.

But anyways, back to the topic at hand. In the words of Cypress Hill: Legalize it and I will advertise it!

[MikeJohnson]

Originally Posted by No excuses, but...

I appreciate the sympathy, but don't worry, no stems and no seeds for me. Ideally though, I'd really love to be able to have homegrown bud.

But anyways, back to the topic at hand. In the words of Cypress Hill: Legalize it and I will advertise it!

Those stems and seeds are just no es bueno. Man I remember back in the day when I smoked weed 1998-2000, you would get an 8th of decent quality bud for $30. It was not chronic but it got you high and for $30 you really couldn't beat that price. For $50 back then you got good quality kush, but now a days, my friends who still smoke tell me that great kush can set you back $80. Once I graudated from HS and went to college I stoped smoking weed.

[Just1Spartan]

* Tenth Amendment – Powers of states and people.

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.

Bottom line, according to the constitution, which some prohibitionists may not care about, the federal government does not have the right to prohibit the use of any drug, period.

Personally, I am pro State's rights and feel that the Federal government has become far more powerful than ever intended. Why shouldn't Mississippi, Michigan, and California, all have different laws? Does anyone dispute that the make up of all populations are wildly different?

It would be a boon to both the government and economy as a whole to any state that legalizes and taxes marijuana.

Oh yea, and if there is in fact a gateway drug, it is alcohol, period.

[MikeJohnson]

Originally Posted by Just1Spartan

* Tenth Amendment – Powers of states and people.

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.

Bottom line, according to the constitution, which some prohibitionists may not care about, the federal government does not have the right to prohibit the use of any drug, period.

Personally, I am pro State's rights and feel that the Federal government has become far more powerful than ever intended. Why shouldn't Mississippi, Michigan, and California, all have different laws? Does anyone dispute that the make up of all populations are wildly different?

It would be a boon to both the government and economy as a whole to any state that legalizes and taxes marijuana.

Oh yea, and if there is in fact a gateway drug, it is alcohol, period.

I can tell you that alchool is way more addictive than weed. I never did any other "drug" besides smoking weed and it did not lead me to other harder drugs. This is the argument that people who don't want to see marijuana legal use, but it makes me so mad when they try to feed us this crap.

If you ask me cigarettes and chewing tobacco should be illegal before marijuana. It's really a joke nobody from my research died because they smoked too much weed.

[No excuses, but...]

Originally Posted by Just1Spartan

Oh yea, and if there is in fact a gateway drug, it is alcohol, period.

DING DING DING!!!! WE HAVE A WINNER

[No excuses, but...]

Originally Posted by MikeJohnson

I can tell you that alchool is way more addictive than weed. I never did any other "drug" besides smoking weed and it did not lead me to other harder drugs. This is the argument that people who don't want to see marijuana legal use, but it makes me so mad when they try to feed us this crap.

If you ask me cigarettes and chewing tobacco should be illegal before marijuana. It's really a joke nobody from my research died because they smoked too much weed.

Less than 1 in 100 people who smoke pot will use cocaine and even fewer will use heroin, but all they say is that most people who use those used weed first. Sure, I bet that's true. Hell, 100% of them could have used weed first and it still doesn't make the gateway drug theory true; its all a bunch of horse hockey. I bet they all drank coffee and took Tylenol first too.

[MikeJohnson]

Originally Posted by No excuses, but...

Less than 1 in 100 people who smoke pot will use cocaine and even fewer will use heroin, but all they say is that most people who use those used weed first. Sure, I bet that's true. Hell, 100% of them could have used weed first and it still doesn't make the gateway drug theory true; its all a bunch of horse hockey. I bet they all drank coffee and took Tylenol first too.

Exactly! The thing is they use this propaganda BS to brainwash the uneducated people. I'm sure as you said the people who have used the harder drugs started with weed but as you pointed out that's 1/100 for cocaine and less than that for heroine. Think of all the revenue we can generate by legalizing it, and think how less crowded our prisons will be? I don't know the stats but many people are there just for marijuana possession. That is absolutely ridiculous and everyone always cries about how overcrowded our prisons are in this country. If you want to have an economic stimulus package, just legalize it and we will get so much more revenue.

Personally I think when the baby boom generation politicans retire and we get some Gen X folks in there this will be a thing of the past. That's why the older people have a much different perception about marijuana because of those propoganda films like reefer madness they watched back in school. Once they are out of the picture things will change.

[GoStateNate]

Originally Posted by SpartanStu

You mean, you're not doing this already??

Doing what?

[No excuses, but...]

Originally Posted by MikeJohnson

Personally I think when the baby boom generation politicans retire and we get some Gen X folks in there this will be a thing of the past. That's why the older people have a much different perception about marijuana because of those propoganda films like reefer madness they watched back in school. Once they are out of the picture things will change.

Isn't it a shame that they literally have to die off before anything changes?

[MikeJohnson]

Originally Posted by No excuses, but...

Isn't it a shame that they literally have to die off before anything changes?

It really is but that is the reality in which we live in my friend. Hoepfully this will change soon but we might just need to be patient and wait for them to just kick the bucket. It sucks to say this but this kind of backwards thinking is what's currently wrong with our conutry dude and it's not just with the marijuana issue.

[No excuses, but...]

Originally Posted by MikeJohnson

It really is but that is the reality in which we live in my friend. Hoepfully this will change soon but we might just need to be patient and wait for them to just kick the bucket. It sucks to say this but this kind of backwards thinking is what's currently wrong with our country dude and it's not just with the marijuana issue.

I'd say ignorance and sheer stupidity are, but I guess that would explain a lot of the backward thinking.

[MikeJohnson]

Originally Posted by No excuses, but...

I'd say ignorance and sheer stupidity are, but I guess that would explain a lot of the backward thinking.

The thing is part of the ignorance is not their fault because this is what they were taught from day 1 that marijuana is just evil and wrong. However, despite this an educated person will do his or her own research and come up with a logical conclusion. Only the weak minded, uneducated, and back wards thinking people just swallow whatever BS you feed them. This is the problem and you really can't teach an old dog new tricks, so they are always going to think this way. Once they kick the bucket and we get our guys the Gen X guys and gals into office I promise you all of this will change my friend.

Hey I don't smoke anymore but blaze one up on my behalf.

Oh and BTW one of my favorite songs by Afrom Man just to set the mood.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=305vRNoofr8

[AASpartan]

This got decidedly one sided in a hurry.

[No excuses, but...]

Originally Posted by MikeJohnson

Hey I don't smoke anymore but blaze one up on my behalf.

Here's to you MikeJohnson, a true gentleman and scholar

[GoStateNate]

Originally Posted by AASpartan

This got decidedly one sided in a hurry.

All you have to do is look at the poll. Spartan1998 was a man standing alone on an island from the beginning anyway.