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03-11-2009, 08:26 PM
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We need tax dollars. If weed = tax dollars, and even a decrease in crime, we'd be stupid not to legalize it tomorrow. I say this is a non smoker.
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03-11-2009, 09:01 PM
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No one will EVER convince me sucking hot smoke of any substance into my lungs is harmless and will have little or no effect on my health.
If pot is legalized in the U.S. no matter what public opinion of the time would be I'd still be embarrssed that the number one cash crop in the country is a weed that effs you up.
I can see the trade issues now. U.S. Pot growers lobby Congress for tariffs on Mexican and Columbian weed. Meanwhile the terrorists set up cells in the U.S. using their new front as importers of Lebanese blond hashish. Just great.
Now I'd have to dodge drunks AND the new influx of stoners on the road. Far-out maann.
If any stoner plows into me in traffic I swear, if physically able, to get out and shove that bong so far up your...........
And of course.....Tommy Chong, Surgeon General.
Just my 2 cents ...or nickel bag....or whatever.
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03-11-2009, 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by JINMAN81
No one will EVER convince me sucking hot smoke of any substance into my lungs is harmless and will have little or no effect on my health.
If pot is legalized in the U.S. no matter what public opinion of the time would be I'd still be embarrssed that the number one cash crop in the country is a weed that effs you up.
I can see the trade issues now. U.S. Pot growers lobby Congress for tariffs on Mexican and Columbian weed. Meanwhile the terrorists set up cells in the U.S. using their new front as importers of Lebanese blond hashish. Just great.
Now I'd have to dodge drunks AND the new influx of stoners on the road. Far-out maann.
If any stoner plows into me in traffic I swear, if physically able, to get out and shove that bong so far up your...........
And of course.....Tommy Chong, Surgeon General.
Just my 2 cents ...or nickel bag....or whatever.
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Well this might make you red in the face: It already is the number one cash crop.
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03-11-2009, 09:17 PM
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Smoking weed leads to harder drug use. Stupid. And it makes you stupid.
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03-11-2009, 09:20 PM
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Smoking weed leads to harder drug use. Stupid. And it makes you stupid.
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And it makes Negroes play jazz. Stupid.
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03-11-2009, 09:24 PM
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Smoking weed leads to harder drug use. Stupid. And it makes you stupid.
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And Asians are good at math!
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03-11-2009, 09:46 PM
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Asians are good at math. Because they work hard at it.
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03-11-2009, 09:47 PM
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Asians are good at math. Because they work hard at it.
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03-11-2009, 09:48 PM
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Asians are good at math. Because they work hard at it.
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But Negroes still play jazz because of the devil's weed, right?
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03-11-2009, 09:50 PM
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It will never happen as long as we have Jenny G (glorified cheerleader, I couldn't get out of a paper bag) ex attorney general as gov in Michigan.
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Funny that as a far right wackjob as some have called me in Wells I think we should legalize pot tax it and take the stigma off of pot. That would take the power out of the hispanic gangs. I would pardon all non-violent criminals and close not a few prisons. The government would really need to prove the constitutional basis for this.
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03-11-2009, 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Toolman
Funny that as a far right wackjob as some have called me in Wells I think we should legalize pot tax it and take the stigma off of pot. That would take the power out of the hispanic gangs. I would pardon all non-violent criminals and close not a few prisons. The government would really need to prove the constitutional basis for this.
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Why does being a far-right whackjob make it funny that you think it should be legalized? Only because that's what the media tells you. True conservatism and strict Constitutionalism would favor legalization, but lets keep this away from Wells.
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03-11-2009, 09:57 PM
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You are not going to drag me in to a conversation about what you call Negroes. Its pretty simple, smoke weed and chances are higher that you will do harder drugs. It also prevents people from meeting their goals in life and reaching their potential. But hey you know what legalize it, that justs mean there will be less hard working young adults that will take my job when I am olders. Americans will just get dumber than they already are. Hell lets blame the education system. its the system man!!
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03-11-2009, 10:04 PM
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Its pretty simple, smoke weed and chances are higher that you will do harder drugs.
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It sounds like you read the pamphlet.
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03-11-2009, 10:06 PM
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No, just common statistics.
Can't imagine some of you idealists would be happy if your son or daughter was walking around the house smoking a blunt.
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03-11-2009, 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by spartanMF
You are not going to drag me in to a conversation about what you call Negroes. Its pretty simple, smoke weed and chances are higher that you will do harder drugs. It also prevents people from meeting their goals in life and reaching their potential. But hey you know what legalize it, that justs mean there will be less hard working young adults that will take my job when I am olders. Americans will just get dumber than they already are. Hell lets blame the education system. its the system man!! 
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I used the term Negroes in a satirical sense, mocking the Reefer Madness-era propaganda of which you still believe.
No, it does not increase the chances you will do hard drugs.
And on to your third point, had they not smoked herb, what greater potential do you think the current and last two Presidents could have had? Emperor of the World? I think Steve Jobs (Apple Computers) has done A-OK. Same with Ted Turner (CNN). Plenty of lawyers/doctors/engineers have smoked/do smoke. You are wrong.
Please, read the rest of the thread and watch the video posted earlier in it.
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03-11-2009, 10:15 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spartanMF
You are not going to drag me in to a conversation about what you call Negroes. Its pretty simple, smoke weed and chances are higher that you will do harder drugs. It also prevents people from meeting their goals in life and reaching their potential. But hey you know what legalize it, that justs mean there will be less hard working young adults that will take my job when I am olders. Americans will just get dumber than they already are. Hell lets blame the education system. its the system man!! 
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I'd love to you to point to a study that concludes that pot use - even heavy long-term sustained use has permanent detrimental effects on the brain. Good luck finding one. It has been shown that such use can exacerbate conditions for people with genetic predispositions to schizophrenia, as does use of virtually any other [legal or illegal] mind-altering substance for those people.
In many ways mature, responsible pot smokers are our own worst enemy. We keep a low profile, don't talk openly about our habit, go to school, hold jobs, are willing to laugh at ourselves [example: stoner movies], don't act out in public and most people would never suspect that we indulge.
That is part of the reason people like spartanMF are able to hold onto dated stereotypes, they don't realize that many of the people they interact with [even respect  ] on a daily basis like to relax with cannabis occasionally.
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03-11-2009, 10:26 PM
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I voted no, and please don't argue with me, because my argument isn't very good. So please do not waste your time.
I just think we have one dangerous thing legalized, which is alcohol. I think it being legal encourages a lot more people to do it. I think pot being legalized would encourage a lot more pot smokers. So I think this would further increase drug-related traffic accidents and things like that. Yes, a lot of people do it already, and people who really want to do it will do it. But a lot more people will be encouraged to try it because it's no longer "bad" and get hooked.
Like I said my argument sucks because I drink. But I think alcohol does enough damage to us. Adding another thing would just increase the negative effects of drugs. If we legalize marijuana we'll eventually legalize everything.
Please, don't bother arguing. Seriously. It's not worth the effort. I don't care.
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03-11-2009, 10:32 PM
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I voted no, and please don't argue with me, because my argument isn't very good. So please do not waste your time.
I just think we have one dangerous thing legalized, which is alcohol. I think it being legal encourages a lot more people to do it. I think pot being legalized would encourage a lot more pot smokers. So I think this would further increase drug-related traffic accidents and things like that. Yes, a lot of people do it already, and people who really want to do it will do it. But a lot more people will be encouraged to try it because it's no longer "bad" and get hooked.
Like I said my argument sucks because I drink. But I think alcohol does enough damage to us. Adding another thing would just increase the negative effects of drugs. If we legalize marijuana we'll eventually legalize everything.
Please, don't bother arguing. Seriously. It's not worth the effort. I don't care.
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Everyone is entitled to an opinion. I don't think your concerns are backed up by the facts but they are obviously held by enough people to keep pot illegal. To me the issue simply being discussed at this length and with the respect exhibited in this thread (for the most part) is a step in the right direction.
Eventually, I think reason will win out, but I am not holding my breath (unless I am zeroing out a bong rip   ).
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03-11-2009, 10:59 PM
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I never said smoking dope will lead to harder drugs for everyone. I smoked dope and never did hard drugs. You picked out Steve Jobs and couple of other people?
If dope is legalized, what becomes "cool" to do? The answer is harder drugs.
They used to say that one doobie = 13 cigarettes when it comes to the affect on your lungs. Why would anyone want to support something that will increase healthcare costs? Now I am sure the government would not exactly legalize California Redhair Sensamelia.
Geez if you want to smoke weed just ask around you can probably get a bag in one hour.
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03-11-2009, 11:09 PM
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No, just common statistics.
Can't imagine some of you idealists would be happy if your son or daughter was walking around the house smoking a blunt.
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And imagine if they could waltz around the house guzzling booze, like we see all the time with legal alcohol.
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03-11-2009, 11:12 PM
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I never said smoking dope will lead to harder drugs for everyone. I smoked dope and never did hard drugs. You picked out Steve Jobs and couple of other people?
If dope is legalized, what becomes "cool" to do? The answer is harder drugs.
They used to say that one doobie = 13 cigarettes when it comes to the affect on your lungs. Why would anyone want to support something that will increase healthcare costs? Now I am sure the government would not exactly legalize California Redhair Sensamelia.
Geez if you want to smoke weed just ask around you can probably get a bag in one hour.
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I used to think you were ignorant. Now I know you're just an idiot. But I digress, enough with the name calling.
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03-11-2009, 11:14 PM
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Care to elaborate?
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03-11-2009, 11:16 PM
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i agree with the tax dollars thing, barry O is gonna need the cash income to keep up with his incredulous spending.
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03-11-2009, 11:19 PM
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Alcohol is infinitely more damaging than weed. It's ridiculous that pot is illegal in the first place. I don't smoke anymore because I have grown out of it but if people want to smoke, let them smoke in peace.
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03-11-2009, 11:19 PM
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Sure. Follow along.
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Smoking weed leads to harder drug use. Stupid. And it makes you stupid.
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At this point I thought you were ignorant.
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Originally Posted by spartanMF
You are not going to drag me in to a conversation about what you call Negroes. Its pretty simple, smoke weed and chances are higher that you will do harder drugs. It also prevents people from meeting their goals in life and reaching their potential. But hey you know what legalize it, that justs mean there will be less hard working young adults that will take my job when I am olders. Americans will just get dumber than they already are. Hell lets blame the education system. its the system man!! 
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No, just common statistics.
Can't imagine some of you idealists would be happy if your son or daughter was walking around the house smoking a blunt.
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By now I still thought you were just ignorant.
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Originally Posted by spartanMF
I never said smoking dope will lead to harder drugs for everyone. I smoked dope and never did hard drugs. You picked out Steve Jobs and couple of other people?
If dope is legalized, what becomes "cool" to do? The answer is harder drugs.
They used to say that one doobie = 13 cigarettes when it comes to the affect on your lungs. Why would anyone want to support something that will increase healthcare costs? Now I am sure the government would not exactly legalize California Redhair Sensamelia.
Geez if you want to smoke weed just ask around you can probably get a bag in one hour.
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This is when I knew you were an idiot.
And now I'm done with you.
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