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Old 07-03-2009, 12:13 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Newspaper story Group of 70 scientists from a paleontology conference takes a field trip to the Creation Museum

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/30/sc...=1&ref=science

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PETERSBURG, Ky. — Tamaki Sato was confused by the dinosaur exhibit. The placards described the various dinosaurs as originating from different geological periods — the stegosaurus from the Upper Jurassic, the heterodontosaurus from the Lower Jurassic, the velociraptor from the Upper Cretaceous — yet in each case, the date of demise was the same: around 2348 B.C.

“I was just curious why,” said Dr. Sato, a professor of geology from Tokyo Gakugei University in Japan.

For paleontologists like Dr. Sato, layers of bedrock represent an accumulation over hundreds of millions of years, and the Lower Jurassic is much older than the Upper Cretaceous.

But here in the Creation Museum in northern Kentucky, Earth and the universe are just over 6,000 years old, created in six days by God. The museum preaches, “Same facts, different conclusions” and is unequivocal in viewing paleontological and geological data in light of a literal reading of the Bible.
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Ok...I'm a staunch evolutionist...but I'm not sure I want to be associated with those three guys...especially the one with the socks an sandles!

Couldn't they find some more "Indiana Jones" type paleontologists to use in the article?
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I've been there. Not saying they got everything right, but it does challenge the entrenched beliefs that we all just evolved over billions and billions and billions of years. No doubt the biggest wheelbarrow full of nonsense ever that ever duped mankind is the theory of evolution.
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I've been there. Not saying they got everything right, but it does challenge the entrenched beliefs that we all just evolved over billions and billions and billions of years. No doubt the biggest wheelbarrow full of nonsense ever that ever duped mankind is the theory of evolution.
Accepting evolution and 150 years of science does not mean rejecting God.
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The New York Times! Is that left wing rag of a newspaper still in business? I thought it went bankrupt.
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I've been there. Not saying they got everything right, but it does challenge the entrenched beliefs that we all just evolved over billions and billions and billions of years. No doubt the biggest wheelbarrow full of nonsense ever that ever duped mankind is the theory of evolution.
Well, that museum is not only an affront to biology, but also geology, paleontology, anthropology, astronomy, physics, and countless other scientific disciplines. Those scientists are all wrong, yet a 3000 year old book of fairy tales riddled with absurdities should be trusted as supreme?
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I've been there. Not saying they got everything right, but it does challenge the entrenched beliefs that we all just evolved over billions and billions and billions of years. No doubt the biggest wheelbarrow full of nonsense ever that ever duped mankind is the theory of evolution.
Why couldn't God have created man through evolution?
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I've been there. Not saying they got everything right, but it does challenge the entrenched beliefs that we all just evolved over billions and billions and billions of years. No doubt the biggest wheelbarrow full of nonsense ever that ever duped mankind is the theory of evolution.
This is all schtick, right?
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So you all honestly believe in evolution? So you think Darwin's right? What he preached is correct.

If you do, I have an interesting fact for y'all.
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how do people still doubt evolution?
Sorry, but the honest truth is it's garbage. Read my lips, I won't stutter, I won't flinch. It's pure garbage.

I know these on-line debates go nowhere, but I still feel it's worthwhile to let people know they've been duped. I feel sorta like Columbus telling people the world isn't flat. An idea, no matter how stupid, when it gets entrenched, just doesn't go away easily. Evolution is just that. A big hoax that won't go away.
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Sorry, but the honest truth is it's garbage. Read my lips, I won't stutter, I won't flinch. It's pure garbage.

I know these on-line debates go nowhere, but I still feel it's worthwhile to let people know they've been duped. I feel sorta like Columbus telling people the world isn't flat. An idea, no matter how stupid, when it gets entrenched, just doesn't go away easily. Evolution is just that. A big hoax that won't go away.
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I feel sorta like Columbus telling people the world isn't flat.
There is a lot of irony in this statement!
1) Using that example as a demonstration as an example of arguing against accepted science is completely backwards
2) Virtually all seafaring nations in the time of Columbus knew very well that the earth was a sphere...I seriously doubt Columbus spent much of his time trying to convince people the earth was not flat.

I'm curious....how old do you believe the earth is?
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Sorry, but the honest truth is it's garbage. Read my lips, I won't stutter, I won't flinch. It's pure garbage.

I know these on-line debates go nowhere, but I still feel it's worthwhile to let people know they've been duped. I feel sorta like Columbus telling people the world isn't flat. An idea, no matter how stupid, when it gets entrenched, just doesn't go away easily. Evolution is just that. A big hoax that won't go away.


and scientists created this hoax why ? I wonder why the scientific community is in overwhelming agreement that evolution is fact and you believe it is a hoax.
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Sorry, but the honest truth is it's garbage. Read my lips, I won't stutter, I won't flinch. It's pure garbage.

I know these on-line debates go nowhere, but I still feel it's worthwhile to let people know they've been duped. I feel sorta like Columbus telling people the world isn't flat. An idea, no matter how stupid, when it gets entrenched, just doesn't go away easily. Evolution is just that. A big hoax that won't go away.
So do you have any evidence of this big hoax?
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So you all honestly believe in evolution? So you think Darwin's right? What he preached is correct. If you do, I have an interesting fact for y'all.
Don't I wish. Don't I wish. Drop by my lab. I can show you E.coli that were supposed to make my protein evolve into little bastards that make all sorts of other **** before pissing me off

Like right in front of your eyes. I can show you the DNA gels of what they started as just like CSI. Then we can watch helpessly as crazy contaminants develop a resistance to the antibiotic, overpower the E.Coli, which sometimes lose their initial plasmid anyway, sucking off from the ones that kept the resistance, all sorts of crazy ****.

There's also a really nice paper out about how nitrogen fixing microbes rapidly adapted across just a decade to fix heavy metals under the ponds used to store uranium waste during refinement at Oak Ridge. I go to church every Sunday, but I see it as an extension, not detriment, to appreciating a wonderful world.
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Don't I wish. Don't I wish. Drop by my lab. I can show you E.coli that were supposed to make my protein evolve into little bastards that make all sorts of other **** before pissing me off

Like right in front of your eyes. I can show you the DNA gels of what they started as just like CSI. Then we can watch helpessly as crazy contaminants develop a resistance to the antibiotic, overpower the E.Coli, which sometimes lose their initial plasmid anyway, sucking off from the ones that kept the resistance, all sorts of crazy ****.

There's also a really nice paper out about how nitrogen fixing microbes rapidly adapted across just a decade to fix heavy metals under the ponds used to store uranium waste during refinement at Oak Ridge. I go to church every Sunday, but I see it as an extension, not detriment, to appreciating a wonderful world.
I'm interested in seeing the demo in which life is evolved from a rock.
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I'm interested in seeing the demo in which life is evolved from a rock.

And this is why conservatives do not deserve a seat at the table when making policy. They're simply willing to ignore 150+ yrs of science for ideological reasons.

Kaiser, this is your party. How can you ever make the right decisions given the ability ignore such a volume of data?
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