Question for the Rs re: Palin

[Dr. Strangelove]

Originally Posted by TorontoSpartan87

W only went to an Ivy because of his daddy. I doubt he had the grades to get in on his own, unlike Mr Obama who is a self-made man.

He was editor of the Harvard Law Review! Do you even know what that means? Futher, he taught constitutional law at the University of Chicago!

So, yes, he is respected as a scholar.

Which of Palin's 6 college stops did she distinguish herself at? She earned a journalism degree, right? Has she ever even had an article published?

What is Palin respected for anyway?

So let me get this right.....Affirmative Action Obama of private schools is a selfmade man but Sarah Palin who saved and scraped her way through college on her own is something to be laughed at?

Just checking.

[Dr. Strangelove]

Originally Posted by TorontoSpartan87

You don't like Biden because he's a career politician and he's trying to build something for his children?

What the heck has Palin ever done outside the world of politics? Has she ever had a job? Isn't she cashing in her own political blind luck to build a family fortune for her children's future?

Holy crap, new definition of hypocrite = YOU!

Trying to build something for his kids? Enjoy your autocracy. Just a pet peeve of mine I don't think elected poltiical offices should be willed to family members.

Do a bit of reading on Palin - yes she did work in the private sector including as a reporter. Hell, she did TV sports (poorly) for awhile.

For a political party that likes to tout itself as the voice of the common people they sure do display their elitist attitudes with their line of attacks on Palin.

[RQA]

Originally Posted by TorontoSpartan87

W only went to an Ivy because of his daddy. I doubt he had the grades to get in on his own

Yet his grades in college were better than both Gore and Kerry

She earned a journalism degree, right?

And never perjured herself in the process, unlike Biden.

[IGGcitable]

Sarah Palin's sizzling academic career:

Sarah Palin's college daze. - By Timothy Noah - Slate Magazine

[TorontoSpartan87]

Originally Posted by Dr. Strangelove

So let me get this right.....Affirmative Action Obama of private schools is a selfmade man but Sarah Palin who saved and scraped her way through college on her own is something to be laughed at?

Just checking.

OH? She scraped by? Going to two different schools in Hawaii does not sound like she is scraping by. If things were so tight, why did she go to a school so far away? Pay out of state tuition? Have to by airline tickets just to come home for Christmas? Oh, yeah, she was really scraping by.

Obama went to private school on a scholarship. He has earned everything he's gotten.

[TorontoSpartan87]

Originally Posted by Dr. Strangelove

Trying to build something for his kids? Enjoy your autocracy. Just a pet peeve of mine I don't think elected poltiical offices should be willed to family members.

Do a bit of reading on Palin - yes she did work in the private sector including as a reporter. Hell, she did TV sports (poorly) for awhile.

For a political party that likes to tout itself as the voice of the common people they sure do display their elitist attitudes with their line of attacks on Palin.

It's not being elitist to believe that some one is not smart enough to hold a powerful position such as VP. Palin is clearly not an intellectual of any standing and I don't think this country can stand having another goofball like GW in the Whitehouse.

[RQA]

Originally Posted by IGGcitable

Sarah Palin's sizzling academic career:

Sarah Palin's college daze. - By Timothy Noah - Slate Magazine

There was nothing mention in your link about perjury but it did contain this little nugget!

in a guy (Biden)who's been known to brag fatuously about his IQ and to embellish his own academic record.

[RQA]

Originally Posted by TorontoSpartan87

OH? She scraped by? Going to two different schools in Hawaii does not sound like she is scraping by. If things were so tight, why did she go to a school so far away? Pay out of state tuition? Have to by airline tickets just to come home for Christmas? Oh, yeah, she was really scraping by.

Obama went to private school on a scholarship. He has earned everything he's gotten.

So that is why Obama thinks other people should pay for everything.

[GRR Spartan]

Affirmative action excuse. The cries of frightened middle aged white men.
Of course the same folks see nothing wrong with the good ole boys "legacy" avenue to higher ed.

If nothing else anyone with a clue should find it troubling that outside of her HS teachers no one that's NO ONE member of any faculty at any of the six schools she attended before getting her journalism degree can remember her.

I went to MSU and had political science profs who remembered every former student who got elected to state office. I'm talking guys like Dick Posthumus when he he was a rookie GOP legislator. Yet Palin was so ordinary, so average that no one can remember her. When you can't remember a person who gets elected governor of a state means she wasflying under the radar.

Nothing says more about a candle in the wind as your book being discounted to $9.00 on Amazon before its forst release.

[RQA]

Originally Posted by TorontoSpartan87

It's not being elitist to believe that some one is not smart enough to hold a powerful position such as VP. Palin is clearly not an intellectual of any standing and I don't think this country can stand having another goofball like GW in the Whitehouse.

Your seething hatred and stereotypes blinds you to the fact that GW actually had a better academic record than Gore, Kerry and Biden.

How do you define "intellectual" and why do you think that makes for a good president?

[RQA]

Originally Posted by GRR Spartan

Affirmative action excuse. The cries of frightened middle aged white men. Of course the same folks see nothing wrong with the good ole boys "legacy avenue to higher ed.

Yet another GRR strawman.

Middle-aged conservative white men favor college admission by merit. Legacy programs have been set up by the liberal administrations of elite academically competitive universities. If you don't like legacy admissions complain to the Mary Sue Colemans of the world.

[GRR Spartan]

RQA please vote for the GOP version of the village idiot. You and the rest of the 20% base lemmings who think Palin is some GOP Joan of Arc will be forgotten as she fades away with the millions that dopey "conservative"religious/pro family wing of GOP tosses her way.

Folks like yourself are so easily manipulated by this fraud just as the 20% far left wing of the Democrats were hanging on every word Jessie Jackson said 25 years ago. The Democrats got smart and so will the GOP. The GOP has a future but Palin isn't going to be a meaningful part of it.

[RQA]

Originally Posted by GRR Spartan

RQA please vote for the GOP version of the village idiot. You and the rest of the 20% base lemmings who think Palin is some GOP Joan of Arc will be forgotten as she fades away with the millions that dopey "conservative"religious/pro family wing of GOP tosses her way.

Folks like yourself are so easily manipulated by this fraud just as the 20% far left wing of the Democrats were hanging on every word Jessie Jackson said 25 years ago. The Democrats got smart and so will the GOP. The GOP has a future but Palin isn't going to be a meaningful part of it.

GRR you are onto your next misconception. I am not particularly a Palin fan. She will not be my #1 choice for the GOP ticket in 2012. However, I will continue to point out when she is treated unfairly by the liberal hate machine. Can you imagine if Palin said there were 57 states or that FDR spoke on TV in 1929??

[GRR Spartan]

If she had released her college transcripts to show what schools she attended for her 4 year degree inover 6 years that would have been a start.

Put it this way, if I need a partner for Jeopardy I'm taking a person who was editor of the law review at an Ivy League Law school before the person who won't divulge transcripts only because I know the law review editor's educational past has be examined.

Please support Sarah Palin. I'm telling you she is the Jesse Jackson of today's GOP, won't help the party nationally and can inflict long term damage just as Jackson did.

[Enrico Palazzo]

Originally Posted by GRR Spartan

Affirmative action excuse. The cries of frightened middle aged white men.
Of course the same folks see nothing wrong with the good ole boys "legacy" avenue to higher ed.

If nothing else anyone with a clue should find it troubling that outside of her HS teachers no one that's NO ONE member of any faculty at any of the six schools she attended before getting her journalism degree can remember her.

I went to MSU and had political science profs who remembered every former student who got elected to state office. I'm talking guys like Dick Posthumus when he he was a rookie GOP legislator. Yet Palin was so ordinary, so average that no one can remember her. When you can't remember a person who gets elected governor of a state means she wasflying under the radar.

Nothing says more about a candle in the wind as your book being discounted to $9.00 on Amazon before its forst release. .

RQA refuses to believe a minority can accomplish and succeed at the highest levels on their own merits, so he starts the cries of Affirmative Action. There is no Affirmative Action in law school grading (it's blind) and no Affirmative Action in electing the editor of the Law Review (it's based on grades and writing produced in the previous year). But then again, anyone who believes Palin did "just fine during the debates" is clearly living in a state of oblivion.

And to try and claim the legacy admits are a liberal invention, how stupid can he be? It's the invention of the powerful elites in this country (you know, capitalists) who want to continue to concentrate power and wealth in the hands of fewer and fewer people and do their best to prevent those outside of their social hierarchy from being able to move into their realm. You know; conservatives. State schools were the product of liberalism - the people who wanted to provide an avenue for higher education to the masses, to the middle class.

BTW, GRR, W was rejected from law school at U of Texas, even as the son of elites, because his grades and scores were so bad. But, daddy got him into the MBA program at Harvard:

In 1973, "making the bar [at Harvard] was 98% meritocracy," says Michael Porter, now one of the B-school's most well-known professors and an expert in international competitive strategy. Bush's application landed at Harvard while his dad, George H. W. Bush, was chairman of the Republican National Committee. One year later, Poppy would become the top U.S. diplomat to China.
http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/feb2001/nf20010215_777.htm\

His grades were better than Gore and Kerry? They should be, he was a legacy, and legacies are on a different grading scale than non legacy students. Legacies at Yale today rarely get below a B - professors have to argue their case to the Dean to give a legacy less than a B and one prof I know said he's never won that argument, even if the student never came to class.

[RQA]

Originally Posted by Enrico Palazzo

RQA refuses to believe a minority can accomplish and succeed at the highest levels on their own merits, so he starts the cries of Affirmative Action. There is no Affirmative Action in law school grading (it's blind) and no Affirmative Action in electing the editor of the Law Review (it's based on grades and writing produced in the previous year). But then again, anyone who believes Palin did "just fine during the debates" is clearly living in a state of oblivion.

Uncle Rico making stuff up again. I never once in this tread said anything about affirmative action. But you have figured out that I am an overt racist who does not believe a minority can make it

And to try and claim the legacy admits are a liberal invention, how stupid can he be? It's the invention of the powerful elites in this country (you know, capitalists) who want to continue to concentrate power and wealth in the hands of fewer and fewer people and do their best to prevent those outside of their social hierarchy from being able to move into their realm. You know; conservatives. State schools were the product of liberalism - the people who wanted to provide an avenue for higher education to the masses, to the middle class.

Our elite universities are currently in the control of liberals and democrats. Are you denying this? At our good old u of m are you saying Mary Sue is a conservative? Do the Republicans control the Regents? Next you will be telling me Fox News controls the Ivys

His grades were better than Gore and Kerry? l

His SAT scores were likely better than Kerry's too!

[TorontoSpartan87]

Originally Posted by RQA

So that is why Obama thinks other people should pay for everything.

No, that's why he is sane and compassionate and believes that everyone should have equal access to health care.

[TorontoSpartan87]

Originally Posted by RQA

Your seething hatred and stereotypes blinds you to the fact that GW actually had a better academic record than Gore, Kerry and Biden.

How do you define "intellectual" and why do you think that makes for a good president?

I don't hate. I leave that to you righties. You got that department covered.

I just want a president who thinks. Clearly, GW is not known for doing a whole lot of thinking. Great, I'm glad he did well in school, but his overall record is one of a frat house party boy who was often bailed out by his parents and has never had to earn a thing on his own, ever.

[Gary in Bradenton]

I'll take a stab at this. I'm a Republican who pretty much ALWAYS votes Republican. That said, I would have an exceptionally hard time voting for Sarah Palin to run this country. It just boggles my mind that she resigned as Governor of Alaska. I don't get how she thought that was a good idea at all. When she first came on the scene I have to say I have to say I was excited about the possibilities. Forget about qualifications and experience. I don't think she has the mental and emotional makeup to be POTUS and it has nothing to do with being a woman and all to do with the things she has done since November in particular.

[Mike Ockisard]

Originally Posted by Mr. Tanfan

Do you actually believe she is qualified to be President? Seriously? Would you vote for her just because she has an R next to her name?

Just like millions of people voted for Obama because he is black and/or has a D next to his name?

[Dr. X]

She is qualified to lap up white-hot spunk like a thirsty nymphomaniac kitty.

But not to be President.

[IGGcitable]

Originally Posted by Mike Ockisard

Just like millions of people voted for Obama because he is black and/or has a D next to his name?

A lot more people voted for him because he was not associated with the band of buffoons and crooks who had been running the show the previous eight years.

And a fairly decent number of people, who might well have voted for McCain, probably voted for him after thinking, "holy $#$#, I could vote for McCain, I think most of his ideas are good, but for God's sake, he is 72 years old with a shaky health history and he just nominated a ditzy bimbo with an IQ about equal to her bra size as VP, if Angry John kicks off, I don't want a ding-a-ling like that with her finger on the button."

[Mike Ockisard]

Originally Posted by IGGcitable

A lot more people voted for him because he was not associated with the band of buffoons and crooks who had been running the show the previous eight years.

And a fairly decent number of people, who might well have voted for McCain, probably voted for him after thinking, "holy $#$#, I could vote for McCain, I think most of his ideas are good, but for God's sake, he is 72 years old with a shaky health history and he just nominated a ditzy bimbo with an IQ about equal to her bra size as VP, if Angry John kicks off, I don't want a ding-a-ling like that with her finger on the button."

And now we have a brand new band of buffoons and crooks....congratulations

[gpage232]

Hell no I would not vote for her. I would say she is unqualified, and the same argument could easily be made for Mr. Obama..

[danb]

Originally Posted by RQA

Your seething hatred and stereotypes blinds you to the fact that GW actually had a better academic record than Gore, Kerry and Biden.

How do you define "intellectual" and why do you think that makes for a good president?

I would submit that he probably has a better academic record than man-child Obama as well, but we'll never know because Mr. Transparent won't release any details of his academic life.