Question for the Rs re: Palin

[Jaheab]

Originally Posted by RQA

GRR's strawman was that white males support legacy. They don't, they support merit..

That is a sweeping generalization of white males.

Are you sure ALL of them support merit-based admissions?

[Enrico Palazzo]

Originally Posted by Jaheab

That is a sweeping generalization of white males.

Are you sure ALL of them support merit-based admissions?

RQA is beyond clueless once again. In related news, the sun came up.

The Boards of Trustees of the elite schools are not elected like public schools - they are appointed based on power and wealth and they continue an agenda to make sure the children of their peers remain in that position. They even allow legacy students to be on a seperate grading scale from the rest of the student they a lot like the US Senate - old, white men. This to ensure the funds keep rolling in after graduation so the schools can continue to grow their endowments.

The Ivys and other elite schools (i.e. Duke) hold up to 1/3 of their entering classes for legacies as well as fame and wealth. For example, Duke admitted Dylan Lauren, the daughter of Ralph Lauren, based on her name and money alone. The Dean of Admissions was rewarded with a plum job on the Board of Directors of Ralph Lauren's company. She gets in over a qualified minority because it's about money and power for these schools.

I would think a pretend lawyer like RQA would be familar with Grutter and Gratz where the anti AA conservative plaintiffs argued that admissions should not be influenced by skin color or minority status, but it was ok to give even greater preference for legacy status.

Legacy admits preserve the status quo within society and futher concentrate wealth, widening the gap between rich and poor; and that's what conservativism is all about.

[spartanMF]

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[RQA]

Originally Posted by Jaheab

That is a sweeping generalization of white males.

Are you sure ALL of them support merit-based admissions?

In post 59 it was GRR that claimed that white males support legacy:

Originally Posted by GRR

Affirmative action excuse. The cries of frightened middle aged white men.
Of course the same folks see nothing wrong with the good ole boys "legacy" avenue to higher ed.

Given polling data on affirmative action (anti-merit) I would say it is fair to say that at least a majority of white males support merit-based admissions

[RQA]

Originally Posted by Enrico Palazzo

RQA is beyond clueless once again. In related news, the sun came up.

Pretty strong words from one who thinks the South revolted because of the Emancipation Proclimation!

The Boards of Trustees of the elite schools are not elected like public schools - they are appointed based on power and wealth and they continue an agenda to make sure the children of their peers remain in that position. They even allow legacy students to be on a seperate grading scale from the rest of the student they a lot like the US Senate - old, white men. This to ensure the funds keep rolling in after graduation so the schools can continue to grow their endowments.

First of all all "elite" schools are not private. Second of all, are you trying to claim that the elite Ivys are controlled by old white men (conservative, no doubt)?

The Ivys and other elite schools (i.e. Duke) hold up to 1/3 of their entering classes for legacies as well as fame and wealth. For example, Duke admitted Dylan Lauren, the daughter of Ralph Lauren, based on her name and money alone. The Dean of Admissions was rewarded with a plum job on the Board of Directors of Ralph Lauren's company. She gets in over a qualified minority because it's about money and power for these schools.

Coming strong with the lies, Rico. Keep in mind, I am against legacy admits, but Ivys at most hold 10 -15% for legacy admits.

I would think a pretend lawyer like RQA would be familar with Grutter and Gratz where the anti AA conservative plaintiffs argued that admissions should not be influenced by skin color or minority status, but it was ok to give even greater preference for legacy status.

Legacy admits preserve the status quo within society and futher concentrate wealth, widening the gap between rich and poor; and that's what conservativism is all about.

I think the issues (AA and legacy) are different and one can be for one and against the other or for both or against both. For the record I am against AA and against legacy.

[GRR Spartan]

RQA is in the Thank you sir may I have another phase.

[IGGcitable]

OK, I've been notified by Big Daddy (his helper anyway) it will no longer be permiTITTed to discuss Princess Palin's physical qualifications for higher office on this site.

We'll have to discuss her intellectual qualfications instead.