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Old 10-30-2009, 04:41 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Why Conservatives Say They Are Happier Than Liberals

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the mainstream media says a lot of things that people believe..
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the mainstream media says a lot of things that people believe..
The title was interesting in that Conservatives "Say" they are happier.

If the findings were reversed the title would have been "Why Liberals ARE Happier then Conservatives."
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Wow, a conservative columnist with an agenda to push conservativism and piss on liberalism wrote a book that said that in his opinion conservatives are happier than liberals. What next, the Coke people saying people prefer the taste of Coke to Pepsi?

However, I think there may be some merit to conservative being so happy. Living in a delusional fantasy land not having to do any actual thinking while be so far detatched from reality as is required to be a conservative today would tend to make those individuals rather giddy.
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Wow, a conservative columnist with an agenda to push conservativism and piss on liberalism wrote a book that said that in his opinion conservatives are happier than liberals. What next, the Coke people saying people prefer the taste of Coke to Pepsi?

However, I think there may be some merit to conservative being so happy. Living in a delusional fantasy land not having to do any actual thinking while be so far detatched from reality as is required to be a conservative today would tend to make those individuals rather giddy.
Those are not happy comments.
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Those are not happy comments.
I actually have a big smile on my face thinking of you and your fellow cons sitting on your couch, empty eyed and drooling while being told what to think and who to hate by people like Beckkk, Limbaugh, Hannity, et al. It further reinforces how much better my life is than yours. Have a nice weekend. I hope you won't be celebrating Halloween since the right is against such displays supporting demons and evil.
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I actually have a big smile on my face thinking of you and your fellow cons sitting on your couch, empty eyed and drooling while being told what to think and who to hate by people like Beckkk, Limbaugh, Hannity, et al. It further reinforces how much better my life is than yours. Have a nice weekend. I hope you won't be celebrating Halloween since the right is against such displays supporting demons and evil.
You mean I have to take back my Pelosi costume?
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I wouldn't say all of those listeners are conservatives. Hell, I've listened to Limbaugh from time to time....I don't know why. I know the guy is a giant windbag, I know I'm probably going to get angry after listening to his rant, yet sometimes I tune in anyways. As much as I hate the guy, I have to give him credit for being good at what he does. I think a lot of people are looking to get angry about something when it comes to politics, and Limbaugh aptly provides that outlet for both sides.

The one that I don't understand is Sean Hannity. As far as conservative talk show hosts go, he's an especially dim bulb and if you want to listen to conservative radio, you can find plenty of other options who aren't nearly as idiotic. I mean, the guy was getting slapped around by Michael Moore. If you're a conservative, you don't have to watch your guy go through that.
Good points. Limbaugh is really good at what he does as the front man for the right side of the propaganda matrix.

Hannity gets 16 million listeners from riding Rush's coattails. He is like the Billy Carter of conservative talk radio. A dumb **** bootlicker who couldn't debate his way out of a wet paper sack. I'd love to have seen him in a nightly face off on Fox against a real political mind - such as a Webster Tarpley or a Thom Hartmann - instead of that inbred tomato can stooge Alan Combs.

Savage and Levin are both immensely smarter than Hannity, and while I often disagree with them, they at least bring some intellect to the table. Laura Ingraham, while bright, has always struck me as a bit too self-righteous. And like many conservatives, seems way too fixated on the "pornification" of the culture.

The real rising star though is Beck. He is much like Limbaugh in the early days because he mixes a lot of satire (like Limbaugh used to do) and self-deprecating humor into his message. He is also the most dangerous, IMO, for the same reasons.
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and Fox News and the USCOC.

Unfortunately for BO as a result of that FNC's ratings are probably up and USCOC's membership/donations are probably up. Either BO's administration screwed up or they were looking to help these two institutions.
IMO, this whole issue about "the fairness doctrine" is manure. There is no way the power brokers want to silence talk radio and television. It is too powerful a tool to divide and conquer the masses. And in reality, the folks that control the flow of information are just beginning to harness it's power.

Now, putting an end to the free-for-all internet is another story.
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Did it ever occur to you that people were listening to these radio shows while they were WORKING?
Well, that would explain workplace violence. Listening to conservative talk radio is bound to make any uneducated man go postal.
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Limbaugh is kind of funny in some ways.. I feel bad for someone that hates America as much as he does, though..
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IMO, this whole issue about "the fairness doctrine" is manure. There is no way the power brokers want to silence talk radio and television. It is too powerful a tool to divide and conquer the masses. And in reality, the folks that control the flow of information are just beginning to harness it's power.

Now, putting an end to the free-for-all internet is another story.
Well BO only cares about himself and his issues. Fox News and USCOC stand in the way of his goals which pisses him off so he is trying to marginalize them. Now unfortunately for news outlets like MSNBC, CNN, etc are going to be around long after the BO administration so while they may be carrying the water for his policies, they don't want to assist him in destroying Fox News because they know when a GOP prez moves into the White House, it could be them next. If I am missing something please let me know, but please give examples of anytime during the Bush administration where the Bush White House went out and attacked MSNBC which we all agree is the liberal version of Fox News.
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Bob is right......er, correct....Limbaugh is hilarious. I do sometimes get tired of him disagreeing with Obama on EVERYTHING, but that’s just his schtick. Most Limbaugh listeners are able to agree with him on some things and disagree on some things. I probably agree with him 80% of the time thus I enjoy the show. His show is designed to provide entertainment mixed with political commentary.
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If you leftie looney toons want an example of a right wing hate mogerer, it's not Rush or Sean, it's Savage.
Word. Some of Savage's rants are downright frightening. He makes Limbaugh look like a lovable puppy at times.
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Oh, wait...you're not joking...
A couple of smilies...no substance...Bullwrinkle, is that you?
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It's interesting to look through that list - it looks like talk radio is for people who have problems. Dave Ramsey is for people with financial problems, Dr. Laura is for people with relationship problems, and the others on the list are for people with mental problems.
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Word. Some of Savage's rants are downright frightening. He makes Limbaugh look like a lovable puppy at times.
Agree, but I like his show the best. He speaks the truth. As frightening and sometimes scary as he comes across he is I think pretty truthfull. Hannity is unlistenable-can't stand his schtick. Limbaugh is very good at what he does but I don't agree with him most of the time. If you really lsiten to his ideals they are not conservative but far far right. He is way off base.

Beck is good. I know people on here hate him but I think he's pretty funny.

Overall I would take Savage hands down. he isn't afraid to speak his mnd and doesn't kiss a**
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Limbaugh is really good at coating radical positions in enough folksy and reasonable sounding rhetoric about personal responsibility, that it's really easy to forget just how radical his ideas actually are. He's the best in the business at doing this, and it's why he's been so effective - he's got sharper political instincts then the rest of the lot.
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Limbaugh is really good at coating radical positions in enough folksy and reasonable sounding rhetoric about personal responsibility, that it's really easy to forget just how radical his ideas actually are. He's the best in the business at doing this, and it's why he's been so effective - he's got sharper political instincts then the rest of the lot.
Exactly what ideas does Limbaugh have that you find so radical
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Exactly what ideas does Limbaugh have that you find so radical
You really have to ask?

Well, for one the guy didn't exactly discourage the birther idiots. He's not afraid to stretch the truth or outright ignore facts to suit his rant of the day. His descriptions of democrats are a cartoonish caricature, his description of foreign policy events are just flat out distortions.

Quite frankly the man wouldn't know what true statesmanship was if it came up and slapped him in the ass. I for one would like to see him wind up in the House of Representatives someday - his brand of conservatism would fit into that body, and having actual political experience under his belt would probably do him good.
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Well, for one the guy didn't exactly discourage the birther idiots. He's not afraid to stretch the truth or outright ignore facts to suit his rant of the day. His descriptions of democrats are a cartoonish caricature, his description of foreign policy events are just flat out distortions.

Quite frankly the man wouldn't know what true statesmanship was if it came up and slapped him in the ass. I for one would like to see him wind up in the House of Representatives someday - his brand of conservatism would fit into that body, and having actual political experience under his belt would probably do him good.
You have said absolutely nothing that is a radical position, nor have you shown any direct quotes of your claimed radical positions. How about you play a clip of him stretching the truth or ignoring facts? Play a clip of him saying something radical.

If I told you that there are radicals in the white house, I could easily play clips from Van Jones talking about redistributing wealth, I could play clips of Holdren discussing sterilents in drinking water, I could show Anita Dunn saying that she turns to Mao politically.

If you say Rush is so radical, then show us something concrete. Don't just drink the kool aid, back your statements up with something radical. I want to see Rush saying crazy radical things. Support your beliefs Mick. You can do it. I have confidence in you.
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You have said absolutely nothing that is a radical position, nor have you shown any direct quotes of your claimed radical positions. How about you play a clip of him stretching the truth or ignoring facts? Play a clip of him saying something radical.

If I told you that there are radicals in the white house, I could easily play clips from Van Jones talking about redistributing wealth, I could play clips of Holdren discussing sterilents in drinking water, I could show Anita Dunn saying that she turns to Mao politically.

If you say Rush is so radical, then show us something concrete. Don't just drink the kool aid, back your statements up with something radical. I want to see Rush saying crazy radical things. Support your beliefs Mick. You can do it. I have confidence in you.
Eff off. You know Rush has said some insane things in his time, and I shouldn't have to spoon feed it to you like a child. It's part of his deal. Everybody knows that.
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And here are some quotes on racism (that are actually sourced and verified)


"Look, let me put it to you this way: the NFL all too often looks like a game between the Bloods and the Crips without any weapons. There, I said it."

"I think the media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well. They’re interested in black coaches and black quarterbacks doing well. I think there’s a little hope invested in McNabb and he got a lot of credit for the performance of his team that he really didn’t deserve."

"Have you ever noticed how all composite pictures of wanted criminals resemble Jesse Jackson?"

The man once told a black listener in Pittsburgh to "take that bone out of your nose and call me back." And he continually characterizes Obama as a 'halfrican'. If you don't get how that's racist, I don't know what to tell you, really. The guy is basically shock radio for politics.
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"Look, let me put it to you this way: the NFL all too often looks like a game between the Bloods and the Crips without any weapons. There, I said it."

"I think the media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well. They’re interested in black coaches and black quarterbacks doing well. I think there’s a little hope invested in McNabb and he got a lot of credit for the performance of his team that he really didn’t deserve."

"Have you ever noticed how all composite pictures of wanted criminals resemble Jesse Jackson?"

The man once told a black listener in Pittsburgh to "take that bone out of your nose and call me back." And he continually characterizes Obama as a 'halfrican'. If you don't get how that's racist, I don't know what to tell you, really. The guy is basically shock radio for politics.
I'm glad you were able to scour the internet and find some quotes that support the beliefs you already decided you had. Good job.

However, most of those quotes aren't "radical" positions. This is a radical position

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The Supreme Court never ventured into the issues of redistribution of wealth and sort of more basic issues of political and economic justice in this society. And to that extent, as radical as I think people tried to characterize the Warren Court, it wasn't that radical. It didn't break free from the essential constraints that were placed by the founding fathers in the Constitution, as least as it's been interpreted, and Warren Court interpreted in the same way that, generally, the Constitution is a charter of negative liberties, says what the states can't do to you, says what the federal government can't do to you, but it doesn't say what the federal government or the state government must do on your behalf. And that hasn’t shifted."
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one of the, I think, the tragedies of the civil rights movement, was because the civil rights movement became so court focused, I think that there was a tendency to lose track of the political and community organizing activities on the ground that are able to put together the actual coalitions of power through which you bring about redistributive change, and in some ways, we still stuffer from that."
Quotes from our President, Barack Obama

Now THAT is a radical.
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