The failed Obama presidency tanked at an unprecedented ludicrous speed.

[gpage232]

Originally Posted by IGGcitable

Disasters caused by the bungling of the Bush Sith Empire:
Bunch of grunts in Gitmo with no plan of what to do with them...yes
Government healthcare system f$#$#ed up......yes
Entangled in morass in Iraq ......yes
International image in the $#$tter ....yes
No transparency in administration (anyone ever hear of Halliburton).... yes
Blown off millions of jobs........yes
Sent the economy into the tank...... yes
Had a beer with a professor and a cop.......no

It's getting really old having Bush still being used as the scapegoat for all the nations problems. I'm no Obama hater, but to blame Bush for Obama not accomplishing his goals for the 1st year of his presidency is ridiculous.

[Enrico Palazzo]

Originally Posted by Redwingenator

Close Gitmo...in the process but 240 prisoners he needs to find a place for - PolitiFact | Close the Guantanamo Bay Detention Center - Obama promise No. 177:
Government healthcare......almost there
Get out of Iraq.......drawing back based on his timeline - PolitiFact | Begin removing combat brigades from Iraq - Obama promise No. 126:
Repair international image.....HELL YES!
Have a transparent administration....improvement of past administration, could be better
Created jobs..........1 million jobs created and saved thanks to the Stimulus (read NYT) http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/31/us/31stimulus.html
Saved the economy.........yep, turning around, highest GDP growth in years last quarter. And my stock portfolio is doing pretty damn well in this economy. GDP report: Economy up 3.5%, topping expectations - Oct. 29, 2009
Had a beer with a professor and a cop.......yes

Let's see, he's been in office for 10 months now. Considering the disaster of the last 8 years one can only do so much so fast. He's done some things he promised, I wish he'd done more, but he's too insistant on reaching out and being bipartisan.

So far, a 7 out of 10. At this point in the Bush administration, over 3000 American had died and the economy was starting to crumble.

So, which Red Wings are you trying to emulate with your post? Game 6 or Game 7?

[GreenSpartan]

Originally Posted by Redwingenator

I can see where you get your news, you should try to learn the truth about these things.
Gitmo is not going anywhere for awhile.
The US will be in Iraq for the next 10 years
The Obama administration has been more secretive about their legislation then any administration in history.
The data they generated their saved jobs include a places like a daycare that reported 250 jobs created, when they actually reduced employees.
Lets see how the economy does in the next quarter.

What a great rebuttal. See Enrico's post for more documentation of the truth rather than your unsupported assertions.

[lars]

Originally Posted by Enrico Palazzo

Let's see, he's been in office for 10 months now. Considering the disaster of the last 8 years one can only do so much so fast. He's done some things he promised, I wish he'd done more, but he's too insistant on reaching out and being bipartisan.

So far, a 7 out of 10. At this point in the Bush administration, over 3000 American had died and the economy was starting to crumble.

So, which Red Wings are you trying to emulate with your post? Game 6 or Game 7?

I see you got the party line down pat. Blame bush.
Libs are starting to live in a fantasy world. Keep going because reality will set in soon. Starting in 2010

[Bob Sakimano]

Originally Posted by lars

I see you got the party line down pat. Blame bush.
Libs are starting to live in a fantasy world. Keep going because reality will set in soon. Starting in 2010

yeah.. how crazy is it to blame the previous president for something.. someone who was in office for 8 years...

I prefer we blame the current president for everything.

[Krazykyle]

Well regardless, if you never supported some of the things he is doing in the first place it sort of makes it a moot point.

[danb]

Originally Posted by lars

I see you got the party line down pat. Blame bush.
Libs are starting to live in a fantasy world. Keep going because reality will set in soon. Starting in 2010

Bush is the Blame Czar

[MSU '73]

Originally Posted by lars

I see you got the party line down pat. Blame bush.
Libs are starting to live in a fantasy world. Keep going because reality will set in soon. Starting in 2010

Wow.

What a "scathing" indictment from someone who buried his head in the partisan sand for 8 years between 2000 and 2008.

[Enrico Palazzo]

Originally Posted by lars

I see you got the party line down pat. Blame bush.
Libs are starting to live in a fantasy world. Keep going because reality will set in soon. Starting in 2010

Originally Posted by danb

Bush is the Blame Czar

actually, that position was established by the GOP on 9/11/01, during the multiple market collapses in 2002 and 2008, during the bursting of the housing bubble in 2008, during the meltdown of the banking industry in 2008 which you all blamed on Bill Clinton.

So, let's see, after 8 years all of the things that happened in 2008 were not the fault of the sitting President, but after 10 months they are.

Well, in the case, 9/11 was the fault of George W. Bush and the cons here have admitted it. Thanks for clarifying that.

[ninowesco]

just a disgusting display by republican trash in this thread

[RQA]

Originally Posted by GRR Spartan

Not as fast as this thread

34 posts later...I guess not

[RQA]

Originally Posted by IGGcitable

Disasters caused by the bungling of the Bush Sith Empire:
Bunch of grunts in Gitmo with no plan of what to do with them...yes
Government healthcare system f$#$#ed up......yes
Entangled in morass in Iraq ......yes
International image in the $#$tter ....yes
No transparency in administration (anyone ever hear of Halliburton).... yes
Blown off millions of jobs........yes
Sent the economy into the tank...... yes
Had a beer with a professor and a cop.......no

Halliburton!!!!

[IGGcitable]

Originally Posted by Enrico Palazzo

actually, that position was established by the GOP on 9/11/01, during the multiple market collapses in 2002 and 2008, during the bursting of the housing bubble in 2008, during the meltdown of the banking industry in 2008 which you all blamed on Bill Clinton.

So, let's see, after 8 years all of the things that happened in 2008 were not the fault of the sitting President, but after 10 months they are.

Well, in the case, 9/11 was the fault of George W. Bush and the cons here have admitted it. Thanks for clarifying that.

Hell, the Reaganauts were blaming Jimmy Carter for $#$# that went wrong as late as 1987-88 (Iran-Contra happened because "Carter had left the Mideast region in such a mess" and the 1987 Wall Street meltdown happened because "the market was still weak after Carter's disasters," the Reagan slappies assured us).

Under that rationale, Obama can keep blaming $#$# on Bush until about 2015.

[ChicagoMark]

As someone who somewhat enthusiastically voted for Obama, I grade him at a D- so far. Very close to fail, which I fully expect unless he radically changes his path. He is getting run over by the DC power brokers. It is laughable.

[SpartyOnInChitown]

Originally Posted by gpage232

It's getting really old having Bush still being used as the scapegoat for all the nations problems. I'm no Obama hater, but to blame Bush for Obama not accomplishing his goals for the 1st year of his presidency is ridiculous.

This is fairly accurate. I know there are a lot of people on this board that love to scream "it's Bush's fault" at every waking turn and the reality is that he is to blame for a lot of our current problems. There is no getting around that. However, we also have to look at the amount of progress being made by Obama. Nobody expected Obama to create a miracle turnaround, but it is fair to evaluate him based on the amount of progress being made. As I said awhile back, when evaluating Obama, people are going to be asking: How much progress has Obama made? Is progress being made at a fast enough pace? It's the pace that people will be looking at.

At the same time, there are also a lot of people that need to manage their irrational expectations. There are a lot of people who expect too much in too little time. For example, about 2 months into Obama's presidency, a gay and lesbian group already started complaining about when DOMA was going to be eliminated and when benefits were going to be available to same sex couples. Nevermind the fact that the economy was teetering on collapse, among other issues of higher priority, they wanted it NOW.

[GRR Spartan]

Just remember Lars is in the health care business and does very well with public employees using private insurance. Why would he want to rock the boat?

[Negotiator]

Wouldn't it be failing? I mean, barring death, impeachment or resignation the assignment ain't due until January 2012, and even then he might get an extension.

Anyway, only four Presidents have left office with a higher approval raving than when they entered: Ronald Reagan, Bill Clinton, George HW Bush, and FDR, Reagan, Clinton and FDR to an appreciable degree, Bush nominally so. More impoprtantly, the only two Presidents who saw their approval ratings go up in the first year and a half are George HW Bush and George W Bush (and that was primarily due to 9/11). What is far more telling is what happens after those 20 months. Reagan, Clinton and FDR all made some substantial gains after that 20-month point, whereas GWB, Carter, LBJ all continued to drift lower.

[kaiserpete]

Originally Posted by Bob Sakimano

yeah.. how crazy is it to blame the previous president for something.. someone who was in office for 8 years...

I prefer we blame the current president for everything.

This is what is fascinating about Wells. You lefties would complain every time WJC was brought up when W was in office..."there you go bringing Clinton up again blah blah blah". The left is using the same playbook the right did in defending W at all costs. And sure as hell, the right is currently using the left's playbook from the W years.

Not sayin' everyone is doing it here...but around 90% are.

[IGGcitable]

Thing is, even the Bushies rarely if ever tried to blame Clinton for things that were actually going wrong with the nation (perhaps because there weren't that many). It was always screaming about Monica and cigars and BJs and how Hillary murdered Vince Foster with her bare hands, etc etc.

Oh yeah, the wing-nuts loved to mutter ominous things about terrorism, implying 9/11 was all Clinton's fault, and that things really changed when the Biggest F$#$#ing Hero In The World GWB took office.

[Negotiator]

Originally Posted by IGGcitable

Thing is, even the Bushies rarely if ever tried to blame Clinton for things that were actually going wrong with the nation (perhaps because there weren't that many). It was always screaming about Monica and cigars and BJs and how Hillary murdered Vince Foster with her bare hands, etc etc.

I think the reason we so much animosity towards GWB, even nearly a year after he's out of office, is two-fold. One, he had much further to fall, and given the circumstances of his approval rating shooting up to 85% it was only natural for him to take a hit. On 9/12/01 he was still pretty much the same guy he was on 9/10/01, so you have to figure he was going to take at least a 30% hit sooner or later. Two, he was the first president whose approval rating steadily declined since Jimmy Carter back in the 70s. Most everyone has had their ups and downs, but you could almost time your watch to these guys. 6 years of a trend, in this case a downward trend, is going to leave a lasting impression,