Ignorant Morons in OH approve Issue #2

ChicagoMark · 11-04-2009, 01:21 PM

It appears factory farming and agribusiness has won again in the backward state of OH. Our toxic food supply is about to get more toxic.

http://www.dispatchpolitics.com/live...litics&sid=101

Ohio voters agreed yesterday to create a state board to protect the state's $93 billion-a-year agribusiness industry

Protect it from what? Healthy Organic alternatives to the toxic waste you call food.

The Issue 2 vote was a big victory for farmers and business interests -- along with Gov. Ted Strickland -- who campaigned hard for it in hopes of blocking liberal animal-care reforms advocated by the Humane Society of the United States.

John Lumpe, executive director of the Ohio Soybean Association and president of Ohioans for Livestock Care, said the vote represented "Ohio taking care of Ohio."

Ohio Agriculture Director Robert Boggs, who will be chairman of the new board, promised it will "serve Ohio's citizens in a way that will be transparent and open." It was a setback for the Humane Society, which came to Ohio this year hoping to work out compromise legislation calling for new "confinement standards" for breeding pigs, egg-laying hens and veal calves. Instead, agribusiness leaders moved quickly to persuade the legislature to put the constitutional issue on the ballot.

More like OH taking care of OH big business at the expense of small healthy alternatives. This is REALLY smart! Let's block the whole idea of raising healthy animals who graze in open fields on natural grass, who don't get pumped full of growth hormones and anti-biotics. Yeah...let's keep them all confined in pens eating chicken ****, loaded on drugs so we can make more money. Healthy food for the people...HA! Let them eat cake!!!

Wayne Pacelle, president and chief executive officer of the national Humane Society, said he expected to lose but reaffirmed what he'd said before: They'll be back.

"We just needed to see this issue resolved before we launch reform efforts in Ohio to phase out the confinement of animals on factory farms," he said. "We haven't made the final decision to do that, but it's very likely."

Strickland would oppose such a move.

That idiot governor and all his family should be forced to eat only the crap that comes from those factory farms. My god....what a complete moron!!

Organic and sustainable farming has now been thrown under the bus. Big money farms can now legally eliminate healthy food competition. In OH people can now eat beef/chicken/pork that is loaded with drugs, fed chicken **** and forced to live in mass confinement. I'm glad I don't live in that pathetic, mindless state.

Money over health. Another PERFECT example of the decline and fall of the US. Let the rich get richer and the rest can eat crap. We know who runs this county and if you think it is The People, you're as ignorant as the morons in OH.

When is the Revolution!!!! How much more of this are we going to take? Jesus Christ!!

Rant over.....for now.

Dr. Strangelove · 11-04-2009, 01:23 PM

It's "moran"

I.B. Fine · 11-04-2009, 01:31 PM

This was actually a constitutional amendment, I got robocalled by the governor and Senator George Voinovich telling me how wonderful this issue was
Whenever they want to change the constitution for something that should be basic legislation, you know it stinks.

SBSpartan · 11-04-2009, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by I.B. Fine

This was actually a constitutional amendment, I got robocalled by the governor and Senator George Voinovich telling me how wonderful this issue was
Whenever they want to change the constitution for something that should be basic legislation, you know it stinks.

Wasn't there just a big study about how organic food is BS?

ChicagoMark · 11-04-2009, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by SBSpartan

Wasn't there just a big study about how organic food is BS?

Perhaps. Funded by Conagra and Monsanto.

ninowesco · 11-04-2009, 02:47 PM

so, they created a state board???

that's all it did?

where's the beef?

Green Cheesiest™ · 11-04-2009, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by I.B. Fine

This was actually a constitutional amendment, I got robocalled by the governor and Senator George Voinovich telling me how wonderful this issue was
Whenever they want to change the constitution for something that should be basic legislation, you know it stinks.

Ding ding ding.

I voted no....its going to hurt small farms. I love how the industry makes up the board/committee.

SBSpartan · 11-04-2009, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ChicagoMark

Perhaps. Funded by Conagra and Monsanto.

Or The University of Copenhagen and was published by, the Journal of the Science of Food and Agriculture.

Basically said there isn't a difference between organic and regular food.

ninowesco · 11-04-2009, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by SBSpartan

Or The University of Copenhagen and was published by, the Journal of the Science of Food and Agriculture.

Basically said there isn't a difference between organic and regular food.

well it's wrong

regular food is shot to **** with steriods and who knows what else

SBSpartan · 11-04-2009, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ninowesco

well it's wrong

regular food is shot to **** with steriods and who knows what else

Well the study by the experts would say differently now wouldn't it?

ChicagoMark · 11-04-2009, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by SBSpartan

Or The University of Copenhagen and was published by, the Journal of the Science of Food and Agriculture.

Basically said there isn't a difference between organic and regular food.

It is just plain stupid to say that there is no difference. Organic food AVOIDS all herbicides, pesticides, growth hormones, anti-biotics, genetically modified organisms and man-made chemicals of all kinds. There are many other differences in how plants and animals are raised.

Personally, I prefer to NOT ingest chemicals with my food. Call me crazy...

SBSpartan · 11-04-2009, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ChicagoMark

It is just plain stupid to say that there is no difference. Organic food AVOIDS all herbicides, pesticides, growth hormones, anti-biotics, genetically modified organisms and man-made chemicals of all kinds. There are many other differences in how plants and animals are raised.

Personally, I prefer to NOT ingest chemicals with my food. Call me crazy...

Again, the extensive study says differently.

ConQueso™ · 11-04-2009, 05:10 PM

If you don't live in Ohio then why the **** do you care?

I voted against this...but I really doubt it will change the way food is currently produced.

ninowesco · 11-04-2009, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by SBSpartan

Again, the extensive study says differently.

Again, the study is wrong.

ming · 11-04-2009, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by SBSpartan

Well the study by the experts would say differently now wouldn't it?

Why not post the link then?

Did the study conclude that there is no difference at all between local organic produce and mass produced agri-business produce? Or is it something like this...

Organic food no more nutritious than conventionally grown, review finds | Booster Shots | Los Angeles Times

Yes. Organic methods of food production do not magically add nutrients to food.

SBSpartan · 11-05-2009, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by ming

Why not post the link then?

Did the study conclude that there is no difference at all between local organic produce and mass produced agri-business produce? Or is it something like this...

Organic food no more nutritious than conventionally grown, review finds | Booster Shots | Los Angeles Times

Yes. Organic methods of food production do not magically add nutrients to food.

Did I say at all?

mattricide · 11-05-2009, 01:11 AM

This is the same state that wants to stop teaching US History to the k-12 public schoolers. Way to go, buckeyes.

WixomSpartan · 11-05-2009, 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by ninowesco

Again, the study is wrong.

but...but...but...it was published in a journal!

agribusiness denier! agribusiness denier!

What's next? Do you also doubt evolution and global warming?

SBSpartan · 11-05-2009, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by WixomSpartan

but...but...but...it was published in a journal!

agribusiness denier! agribusiness denier!

What's next? Do you also doubt evolution and global warming?

Ah the beauty and open-minds of WH. Attacked for a point of view. You guys are fantastic.

If you have a problem with the study, why don't you write the people who conducted the study instead of jumping in my direction for pointing it out?

ninowesco · 11-05-2009, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by WixomSpartan

but...but...but...it was published in a journal!

agribusiness denier! agribusiness denier!

What's next? Do you also doubt evolution and global warming?

I doubt your ability to comprehend what you read

rob · 11-05-2009, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ChicagoMark

It appears factory farming and agribusiness has won again in the backward state of OH. Our toxic food supply is about to get more toxic.

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Ohio voters agreed yesterday to create a state board to protect the state's $93 billion-a-year agribusiness industry

Protect it from what? Healthy Organic alternatives to the toxic waste you call food.

If ours foods are so toxic, why are people living longer????

If you honestly believe that the world population can be fed with organic foods you are either:

1. Incredibly Naive

or

2. Very Ignorant

Duffy2 · 11-05-2009, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Strangelove

It's "moran"

I don't think we should say bad things about the Mormons. They seem real nice and are real polite.

ninowesco · 11-06-2009, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by rob

If ours foods are so toxic, why are people living longer????

If you honestly believe that the world population can be fed with organic foods you are either:

1. Incredibly Naive

or

2. Very Ignorant

let the poors eat it

I'd rather eat stuff that's grown naturally

Seth Galifianakis · 11-06-2009, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by SBSpartan

Ah the beauty and open-minds of WH. Attacked for a point of view. You guys are fantastic.

If you have a problem with the study, why don't you write the people who conducted the study instead of jumping in my direction for pointing it out?

That would probably be a lot easier if you actually provided a link to the study you're talking about, instead of just a vague summary of its supposed conclusions.

ChicagoMark · 11-09-2009, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by rob

If ours foods are so toxic, why are people living longer????

If you honestly believe that the world population can be fed with organic foods you are either:

1. Incredibly Naive

or

2. Very Ignorant

How about a third choice

3. Very enlightened

It isn't that hard. However, many more people would be required to work in the Ag business to make it happen. Organic farming is more labor intensive.