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11-05-2009, 02:03 PM
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Dems hold a seat and pick up 1 seat in the House so Pelosi saying "We Won" is spin?  
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11-05-2009, 02:07 PM
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The congressional race was a THIRD party candidate with a last minute pull out for the republican. Do you know how hard it is to win as a third party?? It happens rarely...the fact that he was soo close should make you worried. You wont see this across the country in 2010.
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Talk about SPIN. The "third party candidate" was a conservative right wing republican installed by the party as the original candidate wasn't wacky enough for them. It's not like the third candidate was Ross Perot or Ron Paul. The party killed themselves in this race. OMG.
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11-05-2009, 03:01 PM
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dude.. I read the article...
the mainstream media is what controls the minds of the intellectually vulnerable people at home eating pork rinds and watching American Idol..
they only know what the mainstream media tells them because they either a) don't have intellectual curiosity or b) the intellectual capacity to determine otherwise on their own.
if you keep comparing Pelosi to me, she's gonna get really pissed off.. no human deserves that kind of abuse.
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Damn  I'm trying to offend you by comparing you to Pelosi, and instead you feel sorry for her?
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11-05-2009, 03:23 PM
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two governor races
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meanwhile, Pelosi and the DCCC went 2 for 2, getting a more liberal replacement in California and, of course, stole NY23, which had been held by the GOP since before the Civil War, with a liberal. 
Sounds like a big win for Speaker Pelosi.
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11-05-2009, 06:12 PM
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The combined populations of NY-23 and CA-10 : roughly 1.3 million.
The combined populations of NJ and VA: roughly 16.7 million.
Wow, what a win for the Socialists...
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11-05-2009, 06:49 PM
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this is like michigan celebrating some three star basketball recruit
the democrats are still Michigan State
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I sure hope not because that would mean Michigan State isn't winning ANY games right now. The sucess of last year was nice but that's all it is, it was last year. It's time to live in the present and the present is quickly sliding away from the Democratic party.
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11-05-2009, 07:15 PM
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I sure hope not because that would mean Michigan State isn't winning ANY games right now. The sucess of last year was nice but that's all it is, it was last year. It's time to live in the present and the present is quickly sliding away from the Democratic party.
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keep telling yourself that
you might even believe it one of these days
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11-05-2009, 08:18 PM
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The combined populations of NY-23 and CA-10 : roughly 1.3 million.
The combined populations of NJ and VA: roughly 16.7 million.
Wow, what a win for the Socialists...
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Wow
You just don't get Congressional voting. All politics are local in those races.
Deeds was run out of town. Poorly run campaign and he refused to listen to other Democrats until it was too late. But even then givein its been 1977 that VA elects a governor thats in the same party as the sitting president.
NJ had a very unpopular Corzine lose by 4% to the GOP candidate. That was a close race and the new governor has to address the NJ property tax issue or he'll be gone after one term too.
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11-06-2009, 12:35 AM
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Talk about SPIN. The "third party candidate" was a conservative right wing republican installed by the party as the original candidate wasn't wacky enough for them. It's not like the third candidate was Ross Perot or Ron Paul. The party killed themselves in this race. OMG.
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Yes he was third party and he came into the race late. Besides the republican who dropped out ENDORSED the Demm. So at least a few % of voters went with her endorsement and fell off the rep/conservative vote. Had that not happened and the conservative been picked in the primary its likely the repub would have won. This was not a typical election and frankly its remarkable that the third party candidiate made it so close within in few % points of winning. Had he been the republican primary pick he surely would have gotten the few % of voters who peeled off due to the formerly republican pick endorsing the demm.
It wont be so messy come 2010 and you will see that if the liberal agenda continues that people are going to swing back big time in the conservative direction. The mood is angry right now. Demms are going to pay a price for moving out of the mainstream.
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11-06-2009, 10:04 AM
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I love reading these posts. republicans are like children."WE WON WE WON! You can see we won right guys." The fact is you lost two congressional seats and Obama's position is actually stronger then it was before but if two Governors races in notoriously fickle states makes you think you're party is not on the verge of disintegrating then by all means get comfortable.
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11-06-2009, 10:31 AM
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If you look at the reasons why the democrats lost the gubenatorial races, they had little to do with any national agenda. In fact, amongst voters who listed health care as their top issue, Deeds won 51-49. Corzine lost largely on New Jersey issues - if property taxes were the top concern, those voters broke heavily for the republican. Voters citing health care and other national issues went largely to Corzine.
I think that's where Pelosi is declaring victory. When the republicans tried to make the NY-23 race about national politics, they lost handily. Corzine and Deeds were victorious amongst voters who cited health care as their top concern, and Corzine won voters who cited the economy and jobs as the top concern. Wherever the republicans tried to make the elections a referendum on Obama and the democrats, they largely failed.
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11-06-2009, 10:32 AM
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I love reading these posts. republicans are like children."WE WON WE WON! You can see we won right guys." The fact is you lost two congressional seats and Obama's position is actually stronger then it was before but if two Governors races in notoriously fickle states makes you think you're party is not on the verge of disintegrating then by all means get comfortable.
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only in the mind of a conservative can losing two House seats mean "we won"... 
though they did do well in the state-level races, as I mentioned in another thread, both of those races were won by republican candidates who didn't push the right wing religious/social nut agenda.
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11-06-2009, 12:47 PM
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If you look at the reasons why the democrats lost the gubenatorial races, they had little to do with any national agenda. In fact, amongst voters who listed health care as their top issue, Deeds won 51-49. Corzine lost largely on New Jersey issues - if property taxes were the top concern, those voters broke heavily for the republican. Voters citing health care and other national issues went largely to Corzine.
I think that's where Pelosi is declaring victory. When the republicans tried to make the NY-23 race about national politics, they lost handily. Corzine and Deeds were victorious amongst voters who cited health care as their top concern, and Corzine won voters who cited the economy and jobs as the top concern. Wherever the republicans tried to make the elections a referendum on Obama and the democrats, they largely failed.
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Are the Spin Doctors your favorite group?
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11-06-2009, 12:49 PM
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irish mick can't be wrong
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11-06-2009, 12:55 PM
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Actually that would technically be "Little Miss Irish Mick Can't Be Wrong"
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11-06-2009, 12:58 PM
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Actually that would technically be "Little Miss Irish Mick Can't Be Wrong" |
I went with the spirit of lyrical syncopation..
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11-06-2009, 01:11 PM
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Yes he was third party and he came into the race late. Besides the republican who dropped out ENDORSED the Demm. So at least a few % of voters went with her endorsement and fell off the rep/conservative vote. Had that not happened and the conservative been picked in the primary its likely the repub would have won. This was not a typical election and frankly its remarkable that the third party candidiate made it so close within in few % points of winning. Had he been the republican primary pick he surely would have gotten the few % of voters who peeled off due to the formerly republican pick endorsing the demm.
It wont be so messy come 2010 and you will see that if the liberal agenda continues that people are going to swing back big time in the conservative direction. The mood is angry right now. Demms are going to pay a price for moving out of the mainstream.
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 You do realize that Scozzafava dropped out because she was bitch slapped by her own party. And she obviously won the primary so any other point you make is worthless.
The real truth is the Republican party is so far out of the mainstream that they are failing to be the party most republican voters want it to be.
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11-06-2009, 01:15 PM
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You do realize that Scozzafava dropped out because she was bitch slapped by her own party. And she obviously won the primary so any other point you make is worthless.
The real truth is the Republican party is so far out of the mainstream that they are failing to be the party most republican voters want it to be. |
There was no primary. A committee of Republican party leaders chose her as the candidate.
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11-06-2009, 01:22 PM
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I went with the spirit of lyrical syncopation.. |
More fiber should help you with that. 
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but I can post at WH if I'm in the bathroom..
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11-06-2009, 01:47 PM
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11-06-2009, 02:46 PM
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There was no primary. A committee of Republican party leaders chose her as the candidate.
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Thanks for the info. This makes it all the worse that the national republican party derailed her candidacy and totally failed in reaching their goal. It's laughable how they've lost sight of reality.
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11-06-2009, 11:36 PM
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Thanks for the info. This makes it all the worse that the national republican party derailed her candidacy and totally failed in reaching their goal. It's laughable how they've lost sight of reality.
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The Republicians lost sight of reality in 1979 and haven't seen it since but the MSM hasn't noticed yet.
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