New GOP, Family Values hero Carrie Prejean is done - sex tape!!!

[Bob Sakimano]

Originally Posted by Venice Spartan

Like Calvin girls

was there back in the spring for The Hold Steady concert...

a lot of little "innocent" coeds walking around...

[SBSpartan]

Originally Posted by Seth Galifianakis

If they're supposedly opposing gay marriage on moral/religious grounds, pretty much everything. How is that not hypocritical?

It's not hypocritical because it's not hypocritical. We are talking about her stance on gay marriage. Her liking to be a freak has nothing to do with it.

By the way people, how the hell are you coming up with this "leader" nonsense? She was a main character in a controversy and got some pub because of it. Nothing more.

[Bob Sakimano]

Originally Posted by SBSpartan

It's not hypocritical because it's not hypocritical. We are talking about her stance on gay marriage. Her liking to be a freak has nothing to do with it.

By the way people, how the hell are you coming up with this "leader" nonsense? She was a main character in a controversy and got some pub because of it. Nothing more.

the nuts in the mainstream media used her as a beacon of morality...

I think she even guest hosted some Fox News show, didn't she?

I know I heard her on Hannity quite a bit, too...

[Seth Galifianakis]

Originally Posted by SBSpartan

It's not hypocritical because it's not hypocritical. We are talking about her stance on gay marriage. Her liking to be a freak has nothing to do with it.

By the way people, how the hell are you coming up with this "leader" nonsense? She was a main character in a controversy and got some pub because of it. Nothing more.

Well I'm going to go ahead and disagree with you. I think it's an extremely inconsistent stance to be against the gays on moral and religious grounds because it's not part of "God's plan" or whatever other nonsense she said, but then to turn around and be a slut. I thought it was supposed to be a sacred bond between a man and a woman, not between a woman and her vibrator.

[SBSpartan]

Originally Posted by Seth Galifianakis

If they're supposedly opposing gay marriage on moral/religious grounds, pretty much everything. How is that not hypocritical?

Originally Posted by Seth Galifianakis

Well I'm going to go ahead and disagree with you. I think it's an extremely inconsistent stance to be against the gays on moral and religious grounds because it's not part of "God's plan" or whatever other nonsense she said, but then to turn around and be a slut. I thought it was supposed to be a sacred bond between a man and a woman, not between a woman and her vibrator.

Making a tape (allegedly alone) does not make you a slut.

[Seth Galifianakis]

Originally Posted by SBSpartan

Making a tape (allegedly alone) does not make you a slut.

I'm no Biblical scholar, but I'll ask again, isn't the Bible's stance on masturbation about as clear as its stance on homosexuality? If her opposition to same sex marriage was truly about the Bible, as she has said, then how is this not hypocritical?

Nobody forced her to hold herself up as some family values leader, but you can't deny that she did just that, or at least accepted that role when it was offered to her. Doing that comes with consequences.

[SBSpartan]

Originally Posted by Seth Galifianakis

I'm no Biblical scholar, but I'll ask again, isn't the Bible's stance on masturbation about as clear as its stance on homosexuality? If her opposition to same sex marriage was truly about the Bible, as she has said, then how is this not hypocritical?

Nobody forced her to hold herself up as some family values leader, but you can't deny that she did just that, or at least accepted that role when it was offered to her. Doing that comes with consequences.

I have trouble with pegging someone down an ally because of one point of view on a specific topic. My guess is you hold beliefs that you could play this same game with.

Again, I don't see anything hypocritical with having a particular stance rooted in religion and another stance not rooted in religion. For me that is crazy.

Let's not forget another thing in the bible. She is human and will make mistakes. Also, she is a kid. God knows I have a lot of skeletons in my closet that my wife doesn't need to know about. Does that mean I am a hypocrite for taking my wedding vows seriously?

[TripleGreen]

Some guys are so f***ing sexist. It's not even funny.

Why is she a slut again?

Originally Posted by Seth Galifianakis

Well I'm going to go ahead and disagree with you. I think it's an extremely inconsistent stance to be against the gays on moral and religious grounds because it's not part of "God's plan" or whatever other nonsense she said, but then to turn around and be a slut. I thought it was supposed to be a sacred bond between a man and a woman, not between a woman and her vibrator.

[Dr. Strangelove]

Originally Posted by Seth Galifianakis

I'm no Biblical scholar, but I'll ask again, isn't the Bible's stance on masturbation about as clear as its stance on homosexuality? If her opposition to same sex marriage was truly about the Bible, as she has said, then how is this not hypocritical?

Nobody forced her to hold herself up as some family values leader, but you can't deny that she did just that, or at least accepted that role when it was offered to her. Doing that comes with consequences.

I don't think the Bible addresses female maturbation.

[Seth Galifianakis]

Originally Posted by TripleGreen

Some guys are so f***ing sexist. It's not even funny.

Why is she a slut again?

I think the exact same thing about guys who are homophobes and claim it's on moral grounds but see nothing wrong with picking up chicks at bars for random sex. I think that's just as hypocritical as what Miss Prejean is doing. Basically my stance is people need to lay TF off the gays and let them live their lives.

[TripleGreen]

Originally Posted by Seth Galifianakis

I think the exact same thing about guys who are homophobes and claim it's on moral grounds but see nothing wrong with picking up chicks at bars for random sex. I think that's just as hypocritical as what Miss Prejean is doing. Basically my stance is people need to lay TF off the gays and let them live their lives.

Just because you think the exact same thing about guys who are homophobes and have random sex...that doesn't make your original stance any less moronic and completely sexist. That's like some idiot saying that he believes that black people are lazy but it's okay for him to think that because he also thinks that southern white folks are lazy too. Completely nonsensical but hey, you're entitled to your opinion.

[Seth Galifianakis]

Originally Posted by TripleGreen

Just because you think the exact same thing about guys who are homophobes...that doesn't make your stance any less moronic and completely sexist.

Explain to me what's sexist about thinking it's hypocritical to hate tGays because the Bible says to, while simultaneously disregarding all sorts of other things the Bible says.

[SBSpartan]

Originally Posted by Seth Galifianakis

Explain to me what's sexist about thinking it's hypocritical to hate tGays because the Bible says to, while simultaneously disregarding all sorts of other things the Bible says.

I don't recall her saying anything about hating gay people. The only thing I remember her saying is not believing in gay marriage.

You can like gay people but not agree with gay marriage.

[ninowesco]

yea but you can't be for completely traditional missionary style sex for the purpose of creating children when you are making videos of you cramming a ***** in your vag

[Three Putt Par]

Originally Posted by SBSpartan

I don't recall her saying anything about hating gay people. The only thing I remember her saying is not believing in gay marriage.

You can like gay people but not agree with gay marriage.

Can you like black people but not agree with interracial marriage?

[SBSpartan]

Originally Posted by Three Putt Par

Can you like black people but not agree with interracial marriage?

How is that part of the discussion?

[Three Putt Par]

Originally Posted by SBSpartan

How is that part of the discussion?

I think the same logic applies to those two situations, unless someone is against gay marriage for religious reasons. If that's the case, then they need to realize not everyone has to follow their religion. It's ok to personally be against something without thinking the government should get involved.

[Rocinante]

This is all very interesting and I welcome the debate, but someone has claimed that his wife was in Playboy.

Enrico Palazzo at least give the year. or the decade and school?

[Seth Galifianakis]

Originally Posted by SBSpartan

I don't recall her saying anything about hating gay people. The only thing I remember her saying is not believing in gay marriage.

You can like gay people but not agree with gay marriage.

Do you think Carrie Prejean "likes gay people"?

[TripleGreen]

Originally Posted by Three Putt Par

Can you like black people but not agree with interracial marriage?

Nice strawman.

Or how about, can you like a Mormon person but not agree with polygamy?

[TripleGreen]

Originally Posted by ninowesco

yea but you can't be for completely traditional missionary style sex for the purpose of creating children when you are making videos of you cramming a ***** in your vag

What kind of lame son of a bitch is only down for traditional missionary style sex?

I bet Jesus Christ even enjoyed himself a little reverse cowgirl every now and then.

[Enrico Palazzo]

This leaves much to the imagination:

Carrie Prejean may be hot, but she just isn't worth the hassle.
E! News has confirmed the existence of Ms. Christian Values' X-rated sex tape—which reportedly prompted her abrupt settlement with Miss California Organization officials—but while the contents may be controversial, the peddlers behind the salacious video have had trouble finding any takers.
The tape actually began making the rounds several months ago and was offered as an exclusive to various websites for the bargain-basement price of $10,000.
But even blogger Nik Richie of the porn-purveying TheDirty.com didn't want anything to do with it.
"It was very graphic," Richie tells E! News, "and our lawyers wouldn't let us put it on the site."



Damn, that girl is a FREAK!!!

[Three Putt Par]

Originally Posted by TripleGreen

Nice strawman.

Or how about, can you like a Mormon person but not agree with polygamy?

I don't care what they do honestly. If it's voluntary and doesn't affect my life or yours, who cares?

[Dorian]

Alright - straight scope. Don't know if anyone will listen, but oh well...

1. Masturbation - Bible doesn't specifically address this issue, at least that I'm aware of. Not to say you should pound away at it though.
2. Sex outside of marriage is forbidden. Sorry dudes, not suppose to do that. However, my interpretation is adultery (cheating on spouse) is worse than fornication, (sex before marriage). Yes, there are different "levels of sin."
3. Sex within marriage - waaaay good to go. Kinky sex? Sure - bring it on. Must be between man and wife - not man, wife, and porn addiction.
4. Homosexuality is forbidden. Difficulty is this has been misconstrued to state - "God hates homosexuals!" Not true, but homosexuality is wrong.
5. Homosexual marriage - not specifically addressed in the Bible, except that it is a covenant between a man and wife. Seeing as how homosexuality is wrong, endorsing their marriage may be worse.

It's interesting. If you read the Bible, you'll see sinners all over the place. It happens. I actually find it encouraging - lets me know I can screw up and there's still hope.

It's when the society as a whole ACCEPTS sin that there's trouble - i.e. wrath of God stuff. So this whole homosexuals-can-marry business is going down the wrong path.

This younger generation is soooo smart. Soooo together. Ya'll just can't wait to get all these old fogies out of here so you can start your new agenda. You have no idea what you're getting into.

[tenaciousb]

Originally Posted by Enrico Palazzo

This leaves much to the imagination:

Carrie Prejean may be hot, but she just isn't worth the hassle.
E! News has confirmed the existence of Ms. Christian Values' X-rated sex tape—which reportedly prompted her abrupt settlement with Miss California Organization officials—but while the contents may be controversial, the peddlers behind the salacious video have had trouble finding any takers.
The tape actually began making the rounds several months ago and was offered as an exclusive to various websites for the bargain-basement price of $10,000.
But even blogger Nik Richie of the porn-purveying TheDirty.com didn't want anything to do with it.
"It was very graphic," Richie tells E! News, "and our lawyers wouldn't let us put it on the site."



Damn, that girl is a FREAK!!!

the lawyer comment is likely bc it'd be damn near impossible without uploading software and changing the site's dynamics to verify age of visitors. since the video would be only for 18+, he would have to shift his site to an adult setting. hence why he blurs/covers naked girls pics that he puts up on the site