Heard an Interesting Quote Today, Need Some Input

[South Carolina Spartan]

"Today's Liberals Are Tommorow's Conservatives"

I suppose that in the time of the revolution, that overthrowing the king and waging war against england was pretty "liberal". those freedoms we won and established are what today's "conservaties" say they are fighting to protect.

Look at medicare and medicade. Conservatives are fighting the medicare and medicade cuts in the health care reform plan, arguing thet should not be cut, as they will harm seniors and people who benefit from it. But wasn't the establishment of Medicare and Medicade, pretty "liberal" when it was established? Would that have been opposed by many who were "conservative"

Is there any merit to this quote? What say you Wells Hall


since this is my first post over here, I am what I suppose is called a "Moderate" feeling no political obligation in one way or another

[GRR Spartan]

I think that's along the same line as liberals become conservative when their earning grow.

Based on the way the current batch of strong right wing conservatives are tracking its going to give birth to a very large moderate block whose party affiliation is more determined by geography and reduce the effects of block voting at the national legislative level.

[ninowesco]

that quote is over used

and generally wrong

[lars]

Originally Posted by South Carolina Spartan

"Today's Liberals Are Tommorow's Conservatives"

I suppose that in the time of the revolution, that overthrowing the king and waging war against england was pretty "liberal". those freedoms we won and established are what today's "conservaties" say they are fighting to protect.

Look at medicare and medicade. Conservatives are fighting the medicare and medicade cuts in the health care reform plan, arguing thet should not be cut, as they will harm seniors and people who benefit from it. But wasn't the establishment of Medicare and Medicade, pretty "liberal" when it was established? Would that have been opposed by many who were "conservative"

Is there any merit to this quote? What say you Wells Hall


since this is my first post over here, I am what I suppose is called a "Moderate" feeling no political obligation in one way or another

I think people grow into becoming conservative. Believe it or not, as a college student I was a liberal. Voted for Mondale for my first vote. Basically, Liberalism is all about childish, feel-good beliefs. So many people in their youth skew liberal. But once they mature and begin to earn a living and have a better understanding of the world people tend to move to being more conservative..(especially when it comes to things like fiscal responsibility, taxes, govt spending). When people see what happens with our money they tend to become disgusted by how liberals just want to spend and spend and spend and think you will just keep paying and paying and paying more. They also see how liberal view dependence on govt as a good thing. Those who earn a living and work hard for their families and want a better life for their children get pretty angry over that view. As a youngster..you don't think about these things.

[Nommad]

Wrong. Many people are turning away from the repubs since they became the party of god and guns. I went from conservative to liberal when the repub party reinvented itself.

[GRR Spartan]

[QUOTE=lars;6287823]I think people grow into becoming conservative. Believe it or not, as a college student I was a liberal. Voted for Mondale for my first vote. Basically, Liberalism is all about childish, feel-good beliefs. So many people in their youth skew liberal. But once they mature and begin to earn a living and have a better understanding of the world people tend to move to being more conservative..(especially when it comes to things like fiscal responsibility, taxes, govt spending). When people see what happens with our money they tend to become disgusted by how liberals just want to spend and spend and spend and think you will just keep paying and paying and paying more. They also see how liberal view dependence on govt as a good thing. Those who earn a living and work hard for their families and want a better life for their children get pretty angry over that view. As a youngster..you don't think about these things.[/QUOTE]


Lars pretty well sums it up and is exhibit A in why there will be a major growth in moderates while the conservatives have an ideological purge.

[richwig]

Well there's always the old saw attributed to Churchill:

"If you aren't liberal when you're young, you don't have a heart. If you aren't conservative when you are old, you don't have a brain."

[Cym Jim]

Originally Posted by lars

I think people grow into becoming conservative. Believe it or not, as a college student I was a liberal. Voted for Mondale for my first vote. Basically, Liberalism is all about childish, feel-good beliefs. So many people in their youth skew liberal. But once they mature and begin to earn a living and have a better understanding of the world people tend to move to being more conservative..(especially when it comes to things like fiscal responsibility, taxes, govt spending). When people see what happens with our money they tend to become disgusted by how liberals just want to spend and spend and spend and think you will just keep paying and paying and paying more. They also see how liberal view dependence on govt as a good thing. Those who earn a living and work hard for their families and want a better life for their children get pretty angry over that view. As a youngster..you don't think about these things.

That is hexydes-level awesome

[Bob Sakimano]

my redneck, racist, brother-in-law told me about 15-18 years ago that once I got a job and started paying taxes that I would become a conservative...

instead, I've actually become more of a socialist...

[Bob Sakimano]

Originally Posted by lars

I think people grow into becoming conservative. Believe it or not, as a college student I was a liberal. Voted for Mondale for my first vote. Basically, Liberalism is all about childish, feel-good beliefs. So many people in their youth skew liberal. But once they mature and begin to earn a living and have a better understanding of the world people tend to move to being more conservative..(especially when it comes to things like fiscal responsibility, taxes, govt spending). When people see what happens with our money they tend to become disgusted by how liberals just want to spend and spend and spend and think you will just keep paying and paying and paying more. They also see how liberal view dependence on govt as a good thing. Those who earn a living and work hard for their families and want a better life for their children get pretty angry over that view. As a youngster..you don't think about these things.

I think that's the road that my redneck, racist, brother-in-law (see previous post) was going down.

[Bullwrinkle]

Originally Posted by Bob Sakimano

my redneck, racist, brother-in-law told me about 15-18 years ago that once I got a job and started paying taxes that I would become a conservative...

instead, I've actually become more of a socialist...

There is another saying - "with age, comes wisdom". Of course there is an exception to every rule.

[Bullwrinkle]

Originally Posted by Nommad

Wrong. Many people are turning away from the repubs since they became the party of god and guns. I went from conservative to liberal when the repub party reinvented itself.

If what the Republicans do or don't do, changed your views - then you were never a conservative to start with.

[tuff bob]

"The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money [to spend]."

[Vlad_the_Impaler]

I think I'm becoming increasing liberal as I grow older and make more money. In fact, I'm even using some of that money to support my liberal causes.

[Vlad_the_Impaler]

Originally Posted by South Carolina Spartan

I suppose that in the time of the revolution, that overthrowing the king and waging war against england was pretty "liberal". those freedoms we won and established are what today's "conservaties" say they are fighting to protect.

Just wanted to highlight the key word above. I take it that you also realize that conservatives aren't really fighting to protect those freedoms. They just "say" that they are.

I'm pretty sure that they're just fighting to preserve white supremacy.

[Booyah]

Yesterday's conservatives are today's independents. 20% of the electorate are willing to admit they are conservatives.

[MSchott]

Originally Posted by lars

I think people grow into becoming conservative. Believe it or not, as a college student I was a liberal. Voted for Mondale for my first vote. Basically, Liberalism is all about childish, feel-good beliefs. So many people in their youth skew liberal. But once they mature and begin to earn a living and have a better understanding of the world people tend to move to being more conservative..(especially when it comes to things like fiscal responsibility, taxes, govt spending). When people see what happens with our money they tend to become disgusted by how liberals just want to spend and spend and spend and think you will just keep paying and paying and paying more. They also see how liberal view dependence on govt as a good thing. Those who earn a living and work hard for their families and want a better life for their children get pretty angry over that view. As a youngster..you don't think about these things.

That's one way to look at it. Personally I say that when people get older and start to make more money they get greedy and selfish which leads them to Republican beliefs. Liberals on the other hand see that there are people suffering and as they get older and wealthier are better able to contribute to those who need help.

[arcticfrank13]

Originally Posted by lars

I think people grow into becoming conservative. Believe it or not, as a college student I was a liberal. Voted for Mondale for my first vote. Basically, Liberalism is all about childish, feel-good beliefs. So many people in their youth skew liberal. But once they mature and begin to earn a living and have a better understanding of the world people tend to move to being more conservative..(especially when it comes to things like fiscal responsibility, taxes, govt spending). When people see what happens with our money they tend to become disgusted by how liberals just want to spend and spend and spend and think you will just keep paying and paying and paying more. They also see how liberal view dependence on govt as a good thing. Those who earn a living and work hard for their families and want a better life for their children get pretty angry over that view. As a youngster..you don't think about these things.

I think people just get greedy with age. Once people make money it corrupts the ideas they held in the past.

[Bullwrinkle]

Originally Posted by MSchott

That's one way to look at it. Personally I say that when people get older and start to make more money they get greedy and selfish which leads them to Republican beliefs. Liberals on the other hand see that there are people suffering and as they get older and wealthier are better able to contribute to those who need help.

Really? That must explain those massive charitable contributions that Al Gore and Joe Biden listed on their tax returns.

Where else but WH can you read drivel like this?

[GreenSpartan]

Originally Posted by South Carolina Spartan

since this is my first post over here, I am what I suppose is called a "Moderate" feeling no political obligation in one way or another

[TrapperGus]

Originally Posted by Bullwrinkle

There is another saying - "with age, comes wisdom". Of course there is an exception to every rule.

Yes and you are the example of that exception.

sorry but that was too easy, even for me.

[TrapperGus]

Originally Posted by tuff bob

"The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money [to spend]."

The funny thing about this quote is that it completely missrepresents what socialism is all about.

[TrapperGus]

Originally Posted by Bullwrinkle

Really? That must explain those massive charitable contributions that Al Gore and Joe Biden listed on their tax returns.

Where else but WH can you read drivel like this?

Anywhere that Bullwrinkle is typing.

[TrapperGus]

Originally Posted by arcticfrank13

I think people just get greedy with age. Once people make money it corrupts the ideas they held in the past.

There are two types of people. One group are greedy me me me types who in their youth are liberial becuase they think they will get something for themselfs from it and then they become conserative when they get something and refuse to share. The send group are community minded people who understaend that everyone is in this world together and ther we all are our brother's keeper. They start out liberial and remain liberial throughout thier lives becuase they understand that to be liberial is a higher moral position than to be conserative.

[langmick]

They start out liberial and remain liberial throughout thier lives becuase they understand that to be liberial is a higher moral position than to be conserative.

LOL, at least they aren't too full of themselves.

Why are people you described usually such *******s and liars?