SpartanTailgate.com - Michigan State Spartans Athletics Forums   Home MSU Headlines Forums Spartan Tailgate Shop Donate Menu
 
Go Back   SpartanTailgate.com - Michigan State Spartans Athletics Forums > Other Forums > Wells Hall Off-topic Board

Notices

Wells Hall Off-topic Board Politics, Religion, and Social Issues. This board is your pulpit to preach to the masses (like the Wells Hall preacher) about everything from politics to religion. Please show RESPECT to your fellow Spartans.

Bookmark and Share
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 11-06-2009, 08:48 PM   #26 (permalink)
Walk-On

helmet
5,000+ posts
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Uranus

Posts: 6,089
Jebus, you Libs are delusional and
__________________
The Road to Good Intentions was paved by idiots with Harvard Law Degrees.
DeHannen is offline
 
Reply With Quote
(This ad and the ad on the right do not appear for SpartanTailgate Varsity Members)
Old 11-06-2009, 08:53 PM   #27 (permalink)
Walk-On

helmet
10,000+ posts
 
Join Date: Mar 2004

Posts: 11,334
Quote:
Originally Posted by richwig View Post
John Boehner stands on the steps of the Capitol, ranting about public health option, waves his pocket copy of the Constitution, and then quotes from it -- only he's quoting the Declaration of Independence!

Not an innocent mistake during floor debate, either; prepared remarks for a staged rally!
He doesn't have to know about the Constitution or the Declaration since he was born in the U.S. (I think) and so doesn't have to learn about them to stay as a Citizen.
greenjoker is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 11-06-2009, 09:18 PM   #28 (permalink)
Walk-On

helmet
2,500+ posts
 
Join Date: Feb 2005

Posts: 4,970
While I stand by what I said about Thomas Jefferson, that comment took the focus away from the subject of this thread: the hilarious antics of the Republican morons. Now, back to the topic...







Yeah, these people would fit right in with the founding fathers.
Jacks Smirking Revenge is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 11-06-2009, 09:28 PM   #29 (permalink)
Walk-On

helmet
10,000+ posts
 
Join Date: Mar 2004

Posts: 11,334
Unlike many Obama backers, Republicans can act like buffoons and still not lose many votes.
greenjoker is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 11-06-2009, 09:39 PM   #30 (permalink)
Walk-On

helmet
100+ posts
 
Join Date: Oct 2009

Posts: 207
Boehner says the healthcare bill will take away freedom as we know it, while both the AARP and the American Medical Association support the bill. Why don't the AARP and AMA believe in freedom?
Booyah is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 11-06-2009, 11:46 PM   #31 (permalink)
Walk-On

helmet
5,000+ posts
 
Join Date: Jun 2001

Posts: 6,588

My Spartan is
John T. Madden
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gotham_Spartan View Post
Thomas Jefferson was a politician. In many respects, in the earliest years of the Republic, he was indeed one of the leading spokesmen for a limited federal government. Then he was elected president and, while holding the office, was presented with the opportunity for the Louisiana Purchase. It was pointed out by those on what had been his side of the issue that there was no authority in the Constitution to do any such thing. It was going to take too long to amend the Constitution, so Jefferson decided that he'd make the necessary philisophical shift, abandoned a strict reading of the Constitution of 1787, and thereby laid the essential foundation for what would become one of the largest nations and largest governments in history. He made the purchase. So much for a limited federal government. The party of which he was a member, the Democratic-Republicans, eventually became today's Democratic Party.

Historically yours,

I was waiting for someone to point out to our right wing wacho friends on this board that not only was Jeffererson a Democrat he was one of the founding generation of the Democratic Party and the first Democratic party member to become POTUS.

I guess facts don't matter much to the right wing wackos but then everyone including the right wing wackos admits this fact.
__________________
"I'll stake my River City band against any other band in Iowa"
"What band?"
"I always think there's a band, son"

We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
TrapperGus is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 11-07-2009, 12:45 AM   #32 (permalink)
Walk-On

helmet
2,500+ posts
 
Join Date: Feb 2005

Posts: 4,970
Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapperGus View Post
I was waiting for someone to point out to our right wing wacho friends on this board that not only was Jeffererson a Democrat he was one of the founding generation of the Democratic Party and the first Democratic party member to become POTUS.

I guess facts don't matter much to the right wing wackos but then everyone including the right wing wackos admits this fact.
I've also heard righties try to claim that JFK and Harry Truman would be Republicans today, as if today's Republican tent has become larger. The truth is, past Republican presidents like Teddy Roosevelt and Abraham Lincoln would find very little support in today's Limbaugh-led Republican party.
Jacks Smirking Revenge is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 11-07-2009, 01:01 AM   #33 (permalink)


helmet
5,000+ posts
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Rochester Hills

Posts: 7,030

My Spartan is
Mark Hollis
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gotham_Spartan View Post
Thomas Jefferson was a politician. In many respects, in the earliest years of the Republic, he was indeed one of the leading spokesmen for a limited federal government. Then he was elected president and, while holding the office, was presented with the opportunity for the Louisiana Purchase. It was pointed out by those on what had been his side of the issue that there was no authority in the Constitution to do any such thing. It was going to take too long to amend the Constitution, so Jefferson decided that he'd make the necessary philisophical shift, abandoned a strict reading of the Constitution of 1787, and thereby laid the essential foundation for what would become one of the largest nations and largest governments in history. He made the purchase. So much for a limited federal government. The party of which he was a member, the Democratic-Republicans, eventually became today's Democratic Party.

Historically yours,

Thomas Jefferson is easily the most over-rated POTUS in the history of our great nation.

Not arguing with the arguments you laid out, but for all his greatness in breaking with England, the dude was a terrible President....horrific...
__________________
(In Europe) The coming decade will witness the war between the values of Islam and the secular “values” of the decadent, hedonistic post-Marxist Left. We have seen the assassinations of Pim Fortuyn and Theo van Gogh, last November’s prelude to the French civil war, the Danish cartoon case. This is just the beginning of the beginning. I do not consider myself a pessimist, merely a realist. It is quite clear who is going to lose – and whose fault that will be. - Paul Belien 022206
kaiserpete is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 11-07-2009, 01:02 AM   #34 (permalink)


helmet
5,000+ posts
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Rochester Hills

Posts: 7,030

My Spartan is
Mark Hollis
Oh yeah...forgot to add...Boehner is an intellectual lightweight douche.
__________________
(In Europe) The coming decade will witness the war between the values of Islam and the secular “values” of the decadent, hedonistic post-Marxist Left. We have seen the assassinations of Pim Fortuyn and Theo van Gogh, last November’s prelude to the French civil war, the Danish cartoon case. This is just the beginning of the beginning. I do not consider myself a pessimist, merely a realist. It is quite clear who is going to lose – and whose fault that will be. - Paul Belien 022206
kaiserpete is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 11-07-2009, 01:03 AM   #35 (permalink)


helmet
250+ posts
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Chicago, IL

Posts: 493

My Spartan is
#5 Johnny Adams
This is just too pathetic. Please vote all of these ass clowns out of office. They all suck.
Green and Tonic is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 11-07-2009, 01:26 AM   #36 (permalink)
Walk-On

helmet
2,500+ posts
 
Join Date: Feb 2005

Posts: 4,970
Quote:
Originally Posted by kaiserpete View Post
Oh yeah...forgot to add...Boehner is an intellectual lightweight douche.
I knew if we both posted on this board long enough, we'd find some common ground.

It's not just Boehner, though. When I look at these rallies, I don't see any of the Republican politicians leading. They're following a talk radio movement, and trying to harness anger that they don't really feel themselves.

To be considered conservative these days seems to mean that you have to be outraged. You have to be mad about ACORN, mad about government spending, mad about the size of bills, mad about socialism, and - most importantly - mad at President Obama, no matter what he does. These rally-monkey Republicans are just acting, and they're not even good at that.
Jacks Smirking Revenge is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 11-07-2009, 01:42 AM   #37 (permalink)


helmet
5,000+ posts
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Rochester Hills

Posts: 7,030

My Spartan is
Mark Hollis
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jacks Smirking Revenge View Post
I knew if we both posted on this board long enough, we'd find some common ground.

It's not just Boehner, though. When I look at these rallies, I don't see any of the Republican politicians leading. They're following a talk radio movement, and trying to harness anger that they don't really feel themselves.

To be considered conservative these days seems to mean that you have to be outraged. You have to be mad about ACORN, mad about government spending, mad about the size of bills, mad about socialism, and - most importantly - mad at President Obama, no matter what he does. These rally-monkey Republicans are just acting, and they're not even good at that.
Not sure I agree with you in whole.

Yes, I find a lot of the arguments from the right to be emotion-based nonsense. And if you've noticed, I've mainly stayed above the fray about Obama. I've attacked morans here that prop Obama up as some sort of demi-god, but I've kept my powder somewhat dry as to his actual performance. I'm still watching....

That being said, the results from Tuesday night are fascinating. I don't view them as a direct rejection of Obama's performance/ideology. But there was a message somewhere in the chaos.

Like I've said before, I hope BHO is a great POTUS and fixes the economy and bears fruit through his version of foreign policy that I completely disagree with.

I don't view the guy as an illegitimate POTUS (birther nonsense), nor do I think he is an intentionally malignant figure out to destroy America's standing in the world.

What I'm starting to realize, which was formerly only a gut feeling, is that he is woefully unprepared to be POTUS. But to be fair, I think McCain would be in the exact same position....maybe worse...
__________________
(In Europe) The coming decade will witness the war between the values of Islam and the secular “values” of the decadent, hedonistic post-Marxist Left. We have seen the assassinations of Pim Fortuyn and Theo van Gogh, last November’s prelude to the French civil war, the Danish cartoon case. This is just the beginning of the beginning. I do not consider myself a pessimist, merely a realist. It is quite clear who is going to lose – and whose fault that will be. - Paul Belien 022206
kaiserpete is offline
 
Reply With Quote

Go Back  SpartanTailgate.com - Michigan State Spartans Athletics Forums > Other Forums > Wells Hall Off-topic Board

Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On






All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:13 AM.

Bookmark and Share

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO 3.3.1
This MSU sports site is not affiliated with Michigan State University or the MSU Athletics Department
Copyright ©2009 Spartan Tailgate, LLC.
Page generated in 0.40840 seconds with 9 queries