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11-06-2009, 08:48 PM
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 Jebus, you Libs are delusional and
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11-06-2009, 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by richwig
John Boehner stands on the steps of the Capitol, ranting about public health option, waves his pocket copy of the Constitution, and then quotes from it -- only he's quoting the Declaration of Independence!
Not an innocent mistake during floor debate, either; prepared remarks for a staged rally!
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He doesn't have to know about the Constitution or the Declaration since he was born in the U.S. (I think) and so doesn't have to learn about them to stay as a Citizen.
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11-06-2009, 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Gotham_Spartan
Thomas Jefferson was a politician. In many respects, in the earliest years of the Republic, he was indeed one of the leading spokesmen for a limited federal government. Then he was elected president and, while holding the office, was presented with the opportunity for the Louisiana Purchase. It was pointed out by those on what had been his side of the issue that there was no authority in the Constitution to do any such thing. It was going to take too long to amend the Constitution, so Jefferson decided that he'd make the necessary philisophical shift, abandoned a strict reading of the Constitution of 1787, and thereby laid the essential foundation for what would become one of the largest nations and largest governments in history. He made the purchase. So much for a limited federal government. The party of which he was a member, the Democratic-Republicans, eventually became today's Democratic Party.
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I was waiting for someone to point out to our right wing wacho friends on this board that not only was Jeffererson a Democrat he was one of the founding generation of the Democratic Party and the first Democratic party member to become POTUS.
I guess facts don't matter much to the right wing wackos but then everyone including the right wing wackos admits this fact.
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11-07-2009, 12:45 AM
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Originally Posted by TrapperGus
I was waiting for someone to point out to our right wing wacho friends on this board that not only was Jeffererson a Democrat he was one of the founding generation of the Democratic Party and the first Democratic party member to become POTUS.
I guess facts don't matter much to the right wing wackos but then everyone including the right wing wackos admits this fact.
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I've also heard righties try to claim that JFK and Harry Truman would be Republicans today, as if today's Republican tent has become larger. The truth is, past Republican presidents like Teddy Roosevelt and Abraham Lincoln would find very little support in today's Limbaugh-led Republican party.
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11-07-2009, 01:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Gotham_Spartan
Thomas Jefferson was a politician. In many respects, in the earliest years of the Republic, he was indeed one of the leading spokesmen for a limited federal government. Then he was elected president and, while holding the office, was presented with the opportunity for the Louisiana Purchase. It was pointed out by those on what had been his side of the issue that there was no authority in the Constitution to do any such thing. It was going to take too long to amend the Constitution, so Jefferson decided that he'd make the necessary philisophical shift, abandoned a strict reading of the Constitution of 1787, and thereby laid the essential foundation for what would become one of the largest nations and largest governments in history. He made the purchase. So much for a limited federal government. The party of which he was a member, the Democratic-Republicans, eventually became today's Democratic Party.
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Thomas Jefferson is easily the most over-rated POTUS in the history of our great nation.
Not arguing with the arguments you laid out, but for all his greatness in breaking with England, the dude was a terrible President....horrific...
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11-07-2009, 01:02 AM
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Oh yeah...forgot to add...Boehner is an intellectual lightweight douche.
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11-07-2009, 01:03 AM
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This is just too pathetic. Please vote all of these ass clowns out of office. They all suck.
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11-07-2009, 01:26 AM
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Oh yeah...forgot to add...Boehner is an intellectual lightweight douche. 
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I knew if we both posted on this board long enough, we'd find some common ground.
It's not just Boehner, though. When I look at these rallies, I don't see any of the Republican politicians leading. They're following a talk radio movement, and trying to harness anger that they don't really feel themselves.
To be considered conservative these days seems to mean that you have to be outraged. You have to be mad about ACORN, mad about government spending, mad about the size of bills, mad about socialism, and - most importantly - mad at President Obama, no matter what he does. These rally-monkey Republicans are just acting, and they're not even good at that.
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11-07-2009, 01:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Jacks Smirking Revenge
I knew if we both posted on this board long enough, we'd find some common ground.
It's not just Boehner, though. When I look at these rallies, I don't see any of the Republican politicians leading. They're following a talk radio movement, and trying to harness anger that they don't really feel themselves.
To be considered conservative these days seems to mean that you have to be outraged. You have to be mad about ACORN, mad about government spending, mad about the size of bills, mad about socialism, and - most importantly - mad at President Obama, no matter what he does. These rally-monkey Republicans are just acting, and they're not even good at that.
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Not sure I agree with you in whole.
Yes, I find a lot of the arguments from the right to be emotion-based nonsense. And if you've noticed, I've mainly stayed above the fray about Obama. I've attacked morans here that prop Obama up as some sort of demi-god, but I've kept my powder somewhat dry as to his actual performance. I'm still watching....
That being said, the results from Tuesday night are fascinating. I don't view them as a direct rejection of Obama's performance/ideology. But there was a message somewhere in the chaos.
Like I've said before, I hope BHO is a great POTUS and fixes the economy and bears fruit through his version of foreign policy that I completely disagree with.
I don't view the guy as an illegitimate POTUS (birther nonsense), nor do I think he is an intentionally malignant figure out to destroy America's standing in the world.
What I'm starting to realize, which was formerly only a gut feeling, is that he is woefully unprepared to be POTUS. But to be fair, I think McCain would be in the exact same position....maybe worse...
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