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Old 12-16-2009, 08:17 PM   #1 (permalink)


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Source: White House threatening Sen. Nelson with military base closures in Neb.

According to a Senate aide, the White House is now threatening to put Nebraska's Offutt Air Force Base on the BRAC list if Nelson doesn't fall into line.

While the Democrats appease Senator Lieberman, they still have to worry about other recalcitrant Democrats including Nebraska Senator Ben Nelson. Though Lieberman has been out front in the fight against the public option and the Medicare buy-in, Nelson was critical of both. Now that those provisions appear to have been stripped from the bill, Lieberman may get on board, but Nelson's demand that taxpayer money not be used to fund abortion has still not been met.

Offutt Air Force Base employs some 10,000 military and federal employees in Southeastern Nebraska. As our source put it, this is a "naked effort by Rahm Emanuel and the White House to extort Nelson's vote." They are "threatening to close a base vital to national security for what?" asked the Senate staffer.

Indeed, Offutt is the headquarters for US Strategic Command, the successor to Strategic Air Command, and not by accident. STRATCOM was located in the middle of the country for strategic reasons. Its closure would be a massive blow to the economy of the state of Nebraska, but it would also be another example of this administration playing politics with our national security.
Source: White House threatening Sen. Nelson with military base closures in Neb. | Washington Examiner
Why not risk national security to play politics. This is sure change we can believe in

btw, isn't this basically treason?

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Wow. That is just slimy.
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Wow. That is just slimy.
This is truly something that should bother all of us....whether you are republican, democrat, or other.
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Get your butt down to the recruiting office so you can at least do your part in protecting the USA.
Yes commenting on national policy requires you to enlist.
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Omaha.com - The Omaha World-Herald: News - Nelson aide: Offutt claim false
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Nebraska's Offutt Air Force Base Isn't that where Dubya went to hide on 9/11

Context of '(10:45 a.m.) September 11, 2001: President Bush Heads for Louisiana on Air Force One, Following Warning from Cheney and Rice'

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Yes commenting on national policy requires you to enlist.
and be commanded by a chickenhawk traitor trying to destroy the country.
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This is just business as usual in the world of politics. I don't like it, but I can't say I'm surprised.
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Yes commenting on national policy requires you to enlist.

Never for this generation of war wimp hawks who are all national security alarmists.

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and be commanded by a chickenhawk traitor trying to destroy the country.
Cheney is no longer in office, and is no longer the supreme commander of our armed services.
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and be commanded by a chickenhawk traitor trying to destroy the country.
So danb, I was a medic, when did a great American like yourself serve?

In Viet Nam, Lebanon, Sarajevo? I'll be you were a sniper. You know, all decked out in camo sitting still for hours for the right shot. Or were you teaching school?
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actually, he isn't, just more Limbaugh, Beckkk and Hannity lies. Of course, a schtick like the OP will believe whatever he's told and run to post what those idiots say as being the truth:

White House Hits Back Against Right-Wing Rumor-Mongering | TPM LiveWire

Meanwhile, both Nelson and the White House have denied the report. A Nelson aide said "the rumor is not true." He continued: "This misinformation is coming from inside-the-Beltway partisans who only want to derail health care reform."
The White House released its own statement, which said:
Proving that they will leave no stone unturned in their efforts to undermine health reform, some blogs opposing reform are now trafficking an absurd rumor that Nebraska's Offutt Air Force Base is being threatened over Senator Ben Nelson's vote on the Senate reform bill. To be perfectly clear: these rumors are completely baseless and false.
And in a statement sent to TPM today, White House Communications Director Dan Pfeiffer reiterated the denial:
This rumor is absolutely false, as the people spreading it well know. This is nothing but a cynical, crass political game that is designed to maintain the status quo. Let's be clear: the people spreading these falsehoods think nothing is wrong with a system under which families and businesses continue to bear the brunt of skyrocketing costs, insurance companies are allowed to discriminate and drop at will, and thousands of Americans lose their coverage every single day.
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So danb, I was a medic, when did a great American like yourself serve?

In Viet Nam, Lebanon, Sarajevo? I'll be you were a sniper. You know, all decked out in camo sitting still for hours for the right shot. Or were you teaching school?
Hence your qualifications to speak on military affairs as well as health care reform. Please refrain from commenting in the future on tort reform as you evidently have never been a lawyer..

I assume therefore you voted for McCain; I mean Obama was never in the military was he? Are you suggesting that he shut up too??
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Get your butt down to the recruiting office so you can at least do your part in protecting the USA.
Do you just blindly have your lips attached to Obama's balls, or are you actually capable of realizing that something is wrong?
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Of course he's going to deny the rumor.

"um, yes, that is true. Our President is guilty of treason and he threatened to close a key air force base so that he can blackmail me into voting for health care"
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I'm pretty skeptical about this one. Knowing Obama as we all do now, they are far more likely to try to bribe Nelson with our tax dollars with some sort of base expansion, etc...than to threaten him.
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I'm pretty skeptical about this one. Knowing Obama as we all do now, they are far more likely to try to bribe Nelson with our tax dollars with some sort of base expansion, etc...than to threaten him.
i'm not.
if nelson doesn't cave and barry closes the base... thats the anti-military barry winning. if nelson caves and votes for... thats the pro-government control barry winning.

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Of course he's going to deny the rumor.

"um, yes, that is true. Our President is guilty of treason and he threatened to close a key air force base so that he can blackmail me into voting for health care"
How is this treason exactly? I get that it would be a slimy thing to do, but am completely confused how you conclude that this is treason.
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they don't have to justify their accusations

like fox news

just throw out there to get attention and then back away when asked about it
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How is this treason exactly? I get that it would be a slimy thing to do, but am completely confused how you conclude that this is treason.
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Threatening to close down a STRATEGIC military base in order to black mail 60 votes through the Senate is pretty close to treason, if not there. Putting your agenda ahead of the countries safety is treason.
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Threatening to close down a STRATEGIC military base in order to black mail 60 votes through the Senate is pretty close to treason, if not there. Putting your agenda ahead of the countries safety is treason.
so you don't care that such a proposal never happened and it was just another lie perpetuated by Limbaugh, Beckkk and Hannity with their "source" being an unnamed "Senate aid," a lie the right new sheep like you would go all over the internets with, and the principles being implicated have come out to tell the truth?

Nelson: 'Nobody's Threatened Me' Over Offutts Air Force Base -- But I Know Who Started That Rumor | TPM LiveWire

thought so. Just a part of the schtick.
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so you don't care that such a proposal never happened and it was just another lie perpetuated by Limbaugh, Beckkk and Hannity with their "source" being an unnamed "Senate aid," a lie the right new sheep like you would go all over the internets with, and the principles being implicated have come out to tell the truth?

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thought so. Just a part of the schtick.
funny how convinced you are that it's a lie
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