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10-11-2007, 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Leonidas
Yeah, don't believe what your eyes see!
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My eyes see a face carved in a rock on Mars. Must be aleins there.
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10-13-2007, 07:34 AM
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My eyes see a face carved in a rock on Mars. Must be aleins there.
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Just proves how dumb and naive you really are.
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10-13-2007, 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Leonidas
Just proves how dumb and naive you really are.
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If you think the Z-film proves a shot from the front due to the snap back of JFKs head, that is absolute proof of how dumb you are.
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10-13-2007, 09:39 AM
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If I think the Z-film proves a shot from the back due to the jet effect, that is absolute proof of how dumb I am.
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10-13-2007, 10:32 AM
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Knowing nothing about basic physics, yet still believing the Z-flim shows a shot from the the front, just proves how dumb and naive I really am.
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10-23-2007, 12:42 AM
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Jefferson Morley: 'Denied in Full': Federal Judges Grill CIA Lawyers on JFK Secrets - Politics on The Huffington Post
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Posted October 22, 2007 | 05:10 PM (EST)
Lawyers for the Central Intelligence Agency faced pointed questions in a federal court hearing Monday morning about the agency's efforts to block disclosure of long-secret records about the assassination of President John F. Kennedy. Three appellate judges probed for explanations of the agency's rationale for withholding records concerning a deceased undercover CIA officer named George Joannides whose role in the events of 1963 remains unexplained.

George Joannides (center) in Vietnam in 1973.
For the past three and a half years, CIA has blocked the release of the Joannides files, denying my Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request and spurning scholarly appeals for full disclosure. At stake is the viability of the 1992 JFK Assassination Records Act, which mandates the immediate review, and release of all government records related to Kennedy's murder in Dallas on November 22, 1963. One of the strongest open government measures ever enacted, the future of the JFK Act is now in question as the CIA seeks judicial permission to defy its provisions.
The three-judge panel, chaired by Judge Karen Henderson, heard oral arguments in the federal courthouse here about whether the FOIA requires release of the records, most of which are more than 40 years old. These records were never shared with any JFK assassination investigation..
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Gordon Campbell and George Joannides at the Ambassador Hotel
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Now, stop and think. If the assassination of JFK was really carried out by Oswald, there would be no need tor any secrecy. Every bit of factual evidence would support the official story, so there would be no need to conceal anything, certainly this many years after the fact.
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Midwest Today | WHO KILLED DOROTHY KILGALLEN?
YouTube - What's My Line ? Milton Berle Panelist 10/17/65 Part 1
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During her 35-year career as a gossip columnist, crime reporter and panelist on the weekly TV game show, "What's My Line?," Dorothy Kilgallen ("Dolly Mae" to her friends), was a fearless journalist who broke major stories, and was the only reporter to interview Lee Harvey Oswald's killer, Jack Ruby. Her biggest case yet -- investigating President John F. Kennedy's assassination, and finding fault with the official story -- became the last one she ever pursued. She died mysteriously in November 1965, after being threatened, but the cops never probed further. Thanks to reruns on the Game Show Network, fans are still talking about Dorothy, including Larry King of CNN, and Dominick Dunne, who wrote about her in Vanity Fair. Now, shocking new information has emerged..
The best evidence to suggest that the several drugs found in Dorothy's blood were not self-administered is that only one drug, the one she normally took, was on the glass on the nightstand..
Dorothy's inquiry into Jack Ruby's ties to the mob, and her relentless exploration of the Warren Report's gross inadequacies, threatened to expose dark secrets that powerful people both in and out of government did not want revealed. Documents obtained under the Freedom of Information Act confirm that the FBI perceived her exposés as enough of a threat that they monitored her closely.
Incredibly, the CIA had 53 field offices around the world watching her on her foreign travels. Given this context, it is hard to see her untimely death as a mere accident.
There is no statute of limitations on murder, and there are enough people alive who could be questioned. But will there be enough interest by the powers that be to pursue this? As Dorothy once reflected, "Justice is a big rug. When you pull it out from under one person, a lot of others fall, too." Justice needs to be done in this case.

Copyright 2007 by Midwest Today. All rights reserved.
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YouTube - What's My Line ? After death of Dorothy Kilgallen Part 1
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The assassination of Dorothy Kilgallen
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10-23-2007, 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Ozymandias
Looks like we have 2 people that are damn fools. There is no way that Oswald could have done the shooting on his own.
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George W Bush shot him
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10-23-2007, 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by RQA
If you think the Z-film proves a shot from the front due to the snap back of JFKs head, that is absolute proof of how dumb you are.
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No matter how many times you say this...it won't change reality
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10-24-2007, 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Lochgelly
No matter how many times you say this...it won't change reality
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It isn't me saying it that makes it reality, it is physics (and basic physics at that).
That you don't understand this, ought to embarass you.
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10-29-2007, 08:54 PM
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Exactly.
George Bush 1 refused to sign the FOIA. This gave the agency 18 months headstart to "deal" with the eventual FOIA when it would be signed by the next incoming President.
To paraphrase Bertrand Russell, "if LHO is the lone assassin, where is the national security risk?"*
*this was in reference to Chief Justice Warren claiming that some documents regarding the assassination could not be released because of risks to national security.
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10-31-2007, 06:34 PM
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Finally RQA has left the building......all I hear is crickets
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11-03-2007, 12:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Al Czervik
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Conspiracy nut logic never ceases to amaze and amuse me.
So we are expected to believe that not only was the CIA part of the "conspiracy" BUT they also recorded this involvement on paper AND current CIA employees have knowledge of this recorded involvement and thus are also part of the conspiracy 
Yeah, that must be it!
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11-03-2007, 01:00 AM
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Finally RQA has left the building......all I hear is crickets 
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Finally Leonidas has departed us.....all I hear is manlove for Brian Kelly
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11-05-2007, 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by RQA
It isn't me saying it that makes it reality, it is physics (and basic physics at that).
That you don't understand this, ought to embarass you.
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I am embarrassed...
Embarrassed that I am arguing with a guy about his "physics" ... when he can't even spell "embarrass."
Face it...there is a movie of a guys head being shot from the right front and his head goes "back and to the left" ...
You are arguing that a guy was shot from the "back-right" and his head goes "back and to left."...
That is some strange physics....
Besides...stop arguing RQA...I have already told you that you have won the argument...you have won "the war"...too much time and too many people have died....the truth has been swept uder the rug and now the American Public will never know the real truth...congrats RQA...you deserve a Congressional Medal of Honor for (dis)service to your country. We salute you!
Afterall, we all know the public can't handle the truth.
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11-08-2007, 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Lochgelly
I am embarrassed...
Embarrassed that I am arguing with a guy about his "physics" ... when he can't even spell "embarrass."
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I even had to concede to Leo/Bearcat once that he was a better speller than I. How embarrassing is that!
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Face it...there is a movie of a guys head being shot from the right front and his head goes "back and to the left" ...
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 That is not at all what the film shows. It shows head movement from back to front along with ejection of blood/brain to the front and then a movement to the back.
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You are arguing that a guy was shot from the "back-right" and his head goes "back and to left."...
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actually no....see above
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That is some strange physics....
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the strange physics is your belief that a 15 pound object can be violently moved by an object weighing a few ounces.
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Besides...stop arguing RQA...I have already told you that you have won the argument...you have won "the war"...too much time and too many people have died....the truth has been swept uder the rug and now the American Public will never know the real truth...congrats RQA...you deserve a Congressional Medal of Honor for (dis)service to your country. We salute you!
Afterall, we all know the public can't handle the truth.
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The Dallas Police knew the truth within hours of the crime. Conspiracy nuts have spent the next 40+ years denying that truth.
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11-08-2007, 03:29 AM
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The Dallas Police knew the truth within hours of the crime. ....
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Not true. What actually happened was LBJ and Hoover notified the Dallas Police chief that LHO was their man and to discontinue any other avenue of investigation. I believe Curry got that call on Saturday, one day after the assassination.
Dallas Police Chief Curry said in 1969 he never had any evidence placing LHO in the Snipers Nest Window at the time of the assassination.
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11-08-2007, 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by RQA
The Dallas Police knew the truth within hours of the crime. Conspiracy nuts have spent the next 40+ years denying that truth.
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Originally Posted by Spartanic
Not true.
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Well, I guess I need to make that "40+ years plus a few hours"
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What actually happened was LBJ and Hoover notified the Dallas Police chief that LHO was their man and to discontinue any other avenue of investigation. I believe Curry got that call on Saturday, one day after the assassination.
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Please provide references for this crazy claim.
Plus why would LBJ and Hoover allow the DPD to investigate the crime for a full day before calling it to a halt? By then they knew the answer. More crazy CN assassination logic.
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Dallas Police Chief Curry said in 1969 he never had any evidence placing LHO in the Snipers Nest Window at the time of the assassination.
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Again, provide the reference and context.
And by reference I do not mean some reference to a conspiracy nut book.
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11-08-2007, 02:12 PM
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the strange physics is your belief that a 15 pound object can be violently moved by an object weighing a few ounces.
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Ah, last I checked F = M x A
So you think something that weighs a few ounces traveling at a very high velocity can't move something weighing 15 pounds? Just shows how stupid you really are when it comes to physics
So I guess (in your mind) a nuclear weapon that weighs a couple thousand pounds can't move something that weighs more than it does?
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11-08-2007, 03:47 PM
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Ah, last I checked F = M x A
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That's it? That is all you know about the physics of colliding bodies?
Your ignorance is appalling (did I spell all of that correctly, Spart?)
Please explain the difference between inelastic and elastic collisions as well as the formula for kinetic energy and how all of that relates to the Z-film.
Until then, go back to the RCMB and continue your attempts at getting Brian Kelly hired
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So you think something that weighs a few ounces traveling at a very high velocity can't move something weighing 15 pounds? Just shows how stupid you really are when it comes to physics
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Didn't say that, but not surprising that you would either lie about it or more likely have not a clue as to what I meant.
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So I guess (in your mind) a nuclear weapon that weighs a couple thousand pounds can't move something that weighs more than it does?
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May be the stupidist thing ever posted in this long thread. That you even think this is some type of analogy for the movement of JFKs head is beyond stupid.
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11-08-2007, 04:34 PM
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LBJ?  He certanly benefited the most from the death of Kennedy. Nobody will ever know who shot Kennedy. We can guess all we want Lee Harvey Oswald, the CIA, LBJ, the commies, but nobody will ever know the truth.
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11-08-2007, 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by RQA
That's it? That is all you know about the physics of colliding bodies?
Your ignorance is appalling (did I spell all of that correctly, Spart?)
Please explain the difference between inelastic and elastic collisions as well as the formula for kinetic energy and how all of that relates to the Z-film.
Until then, go back to the RCMB and continue your attempts at getting Brian Kelly hired
Didn't say that, but not surprising that you would either lie about it or more likely have not a clue as to what I meant.
May be the stupidist thing ever posted in this long thread. That you even think this is some type of analogy for the movement of JFKs head is beyond stupid.
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quite an explanation for someone who stated the below:
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the strange physics is your belief that a 15 pound object can be violently moved by an object weighing a few ounces.
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So what is it? It sure seems you're clearly stating that a 15 pound object can't be violently moved by something only weighing a few ounces 
Boy are you ****ing stupid
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11-09-2007, 01:44 AM
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So what is it? It sure seems you're clearly stating that a 15 pound object can't be violently moved by something only weighing a few ounces  
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I am clearly stating that.
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Who is the stupid one? I am still waiting for your explanation about kinetic energy as it relates to the physics of colliding bodies. I suspect I will have quite a wait.
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11-09-2007, 01:47 AM
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LBJ?  He certanly benefited the most from the death of Kennedy. Nobody will ever know who shot Kennedy. We can guess all we want Lee Harvey Oswald, the CIA, LBJ, the commies, but nobody will ever know the truth.
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Hi Mike, welcome to the board.
The truth is actually easy to see. Simply review the vast amount of evidence in the case that only leads to one conclusion. That is, that LHO is the only killer.
If you are interested I could point you to a few objective works that clarify the issues.
RQA
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11-09-2007, 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by RQA
Hi Mike, welcome to the board.
The truth is actually easy to see. Simply review the vast amount of evidence in the case that only leads to one conclusion. That is, that LHO is the only killer.
If you are interested I could point you to a few objective works that clarify the issues.
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Of course Lee Harvey Oswald shot Kennedy....the question is did he also get hit from the right front ? I say of course he did...its plain as day on the Zapruder film...and...don't forget this...Oswald said.."I'm just the patsy."
Why would he say that if he was this weirdo lone gunman hell bent to make a name for himself because he wanted to feel important?.....the answer is ...he wouldn't....
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